• admissions,  internal transfer,  Transferring

    this or that: transfer or transfer

    July 31, 2023

    Hi, my goal is to study architecture at UofT and unfortunately I didn’t get accepted. The only program open at UofT when I got my rejection was the visual and performance arts program at UofT Scarborough. My question is do you think it’s smart to go into that program in my first year and then do an internal transfer ? Or should I go to TMU for an undeclared program and so an external transfer? How can I make sure I will get accepted if I transfer?

    Have you ever heard about a similar situation? What was the outcome?

    hey there,

    this sounds like a tough decision. well… good thing i’m here, right?

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    1. internal vs. external transfer

    i haven’t heard of situations too similar to yours, but i have heard of many people doing internal transfers between campuses at uoft. and, take this with a grain of salt, but i’m assuming it would be easier to transfer internally since you will already have been accepted to uoft. especially since they have your transcript already and all your records. and in terms of anecdotal advice, people have said that transferring in from another university is very difficult and strict (harder than admission straight out of high school).

    2. how can i make sure i will get accepted if i transfer?

    while there’s no way to make sure you get accepted in a transfer, you can make your application stronger and more competitive. for an internal transfer: you can read about admissions from UTSC to the st. george campus here. admission decisions are based on your CGPA, and will depend on whether or not program prerequisites, grade requirements and any other admission requirements have been met. people have said that this application process is not difficult, as long as your grades are fine. though uoft doesn’t give out an exact number, i think if your GPA is above a 3.0, you should be good. in the worst case, people who didn’t get in wrote a letter to appeal the decision, and it worked.

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    for an external transfer: admission consideration is based on your overall academic record and your most recent annual average. competitive students normally have a solid ‘B’ average in their university studies (though this really depends on the program).

    in the end though, for something like this, advice from a fellow student probably won’t cut it. i can’t make a call on what is smart to do just based on your question, as i don’t know the full picture or what would work for you. if you wanted to push for program-specific answers, get in touch with the admissions office in the faculty of architecture. their email is: undergraduate (at) daniels (.) utoronto (.) ca . someone on the inside there might actually be really helpful, don’t hesitate to just ask!

    and overall, talk to the people in your life about what makes most sense for you. i’m sure it will all work out, keep your head up! wishing you all the best. (also, thanks for the patience with this answer).

    over and out,

    aska

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  • engineering,  internal transfer

    how to get your steps in (towards a biomedical engineering degree)

    June 6, 2023

    Good afternoon. I have been admitted to Life Sciences to start in fall 23. I would like to proceed to Medicine after graduating but I find Biomedical Engineering also interesting. Please advise what steps I should take to keep my options open (and strong) to be able to transfer to Biomedical Engineering after the first year. Many thanks in advance.

    hi there,

    congrats, and welcome! just one clarification: are you trying to take Biomedical Engineering for your undergraduate or graduate degree? i may know everything at U of T, but — and i say this with love — i have questions about y’all’s questions sometimes. 

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    in the case that you’re asking about being admitted to the Biomedical Engineering undergrad program, the application requirement is that you have to be in the Engineering Science program. in order to apply to the Engineering Science program, select the application option that matches your academic history on this website, and go through the steps it provides. once you are admitted, declare the Biomedical Engineering major by adding it to your program planner through degree explorer.

    so you’d essentially need to transfer from Life Sciences to Engineering Science. this is not simple and will entail undergoing an application process for an internal transfer to the Faculty of Applied Science and Engineering. with transfers between faculties, admission is based on your overall academic record and is a rolling basis — so you would want to apply early, even though your deadline would be Nov 7. you should definitely talk to an academic advisor at your registrar about this application process to make sure you aren’t missing anything important. 

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    if you’re asking about doing Biomedical Engineering as a graduate degree: what you’ll need to do to prepare for a potential Biomedical Engineering graduate degree depends on which specific program you have in mind. but it’s also unclear if you want to take Biomed Engineering at U of T or elsewhere? 

    either way, i’ll give you some advice based on U of T. you can read about the Master of Engineering program on the departmental website. here, it tells you about the application process and important details, such as what the prerequisites for the Master of Engineering program are: 

    a four-year bachelor’s degree in engineering, or its equivalent, with an average of at least 3.0 on a 4.0 grade point average scale (i.e., mid-B) in the final two years of study from a recognized university.

    proof of English-language proficiency is required for all applicants educated outside of Canada whose native language is not English. view the BME English-language requirement policy to determine whether you are required to take a language test and for a list of accepted testing agencies and their minimum scores required for admission.

    according to that, it looks like you’d need an undergrad engineering degree to do grad studies in Biomedical Engineering. basically, your key takeaway here is: if you don’t transfer into engineering during undergrad, your options for biomedical engineering unfortunately will not be kept that open.

    best of luck in everything, friend!

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    over and out,

    aska

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  • first year,  internal transfer,  switching

    i don’t want to have to deliver unfortunate news, but

    June 2, 2023

    Hi there!

    I am an incoming 105 first-year who has applied to Psychology at UTM, and is hoping for guaranteed residence as I’ve submitted my residence application before the deadline. I’d like to switch my program to Social Science at UTSG instead, and I was told by the Faculty of ArtSci that switching admission categories was not going to be a problem.

    If I am admitted to Psych, what are the chances I could request/apply for a switch or internal transfer to UTSG Social Science before starting in the fall? Would I also be allowed to switch my residence application/admission to UTSG, and could I still retain my theoretical guaranteed spot, or would it be considered a rolling admission and I may not be offered residence? I understand I can apply as an Internal transfer with OUAC in November, but I am hoping to avoid having to take my first year in a completely unrelated program, and campus.

    Hope that makes sense. Thanks so much for your time and much love.

    hi bestie,

    much love right back at you. 

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    yes, it’s true that switching admission categories once you’ve been admitted to the Faculty of Arts and Sciences isn’t a problem – you don’t really need to do anything. the only thing to note is priority enrolment for classes, which just means you sometimes have to wait an extra week or so to enrol in certain classes offered by a program you’re not in. but, this is definitely not anything to worry about. 

    so what you want to do is called an internal transfer, which you’d need to go through another admissions process to do. you seem aware that you’ll just have to make sure you meet all the prerequisites and then fill out an internal application by the deadline for your faculty (arts & science for you). but generally, you can’t do an internal transfer at this time of year.

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    you can reach out to the UTM registrar to see if they’ll tell you differently, but as far as i know internal transfers are only done through OUAC, and you would have to do this during the normal application period (which is more than a few months past). so unfortunately, you might need to take your first year at UTM, as it may be too late. and, i guess if you can’t transfer right now, this also answers the residence part of your question.

    i hope this was helpful and not too discouraging. best of luck!!

    over and out,

    aska

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  • internal transfer,  Transferring

    goodbye uoft, hello… uoft

    March 1, 2023

    I am an internal transfer student and I have accepted my offer. The conditions are: have CGPA above 2.7 and maintain my current academic standing and if I am currently enroll, do not have any misconduct notes on my final transcript. My question is I dropped 2 winter session courses after I accepted my offer since I don’t need them anymore. I still have 4 winter session courses left. Is this action going to affect my offer?

    hey there,

    if those are all the conditions on your offer, i’d say you’re in the clear. there aren’t any specific requirement on courseload in the uoft internal transfer criteria in the first place, and although they might’ve considered that during admissions in a more ~holistic~ way, i doubt that even uoft would be petty enough to go back and check that after you’ve been accepted.

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    the only scenario that i think might possibly be problematic is if you dropped a course that was a required prereq for entering the program you applied to, since you do need the required high school or university prereqs to transfer. but i’d assume that’s not the case since you said you don’t need those courses anymore. so basically, you’re freeee! take the offer and run! they can’t possibly take it back – unless your cgpa drops and/or your academic standing changes, so just be careful of that.

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    good luck!

    aska

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  • internal transfer,  Transferring

    come to the dark side

    August 21, 2022

    I am a utsc student looking to transfer to utsg, and I only have 4.0 credits with a decent gpa. I also took most of my courses here at utsg, so I just wanna ask does the university look at how many courses you have taken when considering transfer, and what are my odds.

    hi there,

    from what i’ve seen, gpa is the main factor for transferring campuses. courseload doesn’t seem to matter much (if at all) based on what i’ve been able to find after 30 solid minutes of googling, ctr-f-ing and opening way too many tabs, so i think you’re safe there. overall, if your cgpa is decent enough to pass utsg’s cutoff of a 2.7 or B average, i think it’s definitely worth a shot!

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    (i have no clue why there’s a gif specifically of motivational jane goodall in front of a uoft banner, but hey, it works)

    as for your odds, well, only the admissions officers really know that. but if you’d like some guidance through this whole process, i’d suggest getting in touch with your registrar!

    good luck,

    aska

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  • internal transfer

    jumping ship before you even step aboard

    June 5, 2021

    Hi! if i have gotten accepted to UTSC for Fall 2021 (im in highschool) and I want to go to UTSG (I didn’t apply there), when and how can I transfer. Thanks

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    Hi! i Just got accepted into Life sci at UTSC for fall 2021 and when i applied i had a living arrangement which i sadly dont have anymore. I was wondering how hard it would be to transfer to the st george or even mississauga campus before i start in the fall. Thanks!

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    hello there,

    answering these two questions in one go because they’re pretty similar!

    to transfer between campuses, you’d need to apply for an internal transfer. essentially, that would entail going through a sort of admissions process again, in order to transfer to another branch of u of t. i’ve never heard of an internal transfer being done before first year, though. as far as i know, internal transfer applications are only open in the fall/winter. so the earliest you’d be able to attempt a transfer to another campus would be during the upcoming academic year.

    if you do decide to do an internal transfer, you’ll need to go through the OUAC process again. you know the one.

    yes, again.

    keep in mind that your CGPA and most recent annual GPA will be used to make the admissions decision. according to this webpage, you generally need a B average to be a competitive applicant.

    anyway, i’d strongly recommend that both of you reach out to your registrar’s office and book an appointment with an academic advisor to discuss this. they might know other avenues you can take, and will generally be more familiar with the internal transfer process given that i’ve never undergone it. you deserve to navigate this with assistance!

    (and also, a side note: to the one of you who lost your housing plans, check out this old guide i did on finding housing as a student!)

    be Boundless,

    aska

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  • internal transfer

    this school is really confusing!!!!

    January 8, 2021

    Hi, I’m wondering how the internal transfer student apply for the POSt. Do they have to wait until the POSt request period even if they get admitted? OR do they just get admitted to the POSt directly when they get assessed the transfer credits? There is no such info on the page and I’m quite confused whether I should take the required courses or not.

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    heyo,

    i’ve never done an internal transfer so i’m not 100% sure about this, but i think you might need to apply for POSt again during the normal program request period. the best course of action for you would probably be to get in touch with your registrar’s office and ask them about your specific case, since they’ll know best!

    sorry i can’t be more helpful, but good luck with the internal transfer if that’s what you decide to do!

    be Boundless,

    aska

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  • internal transfer

    oh boY

    June 14, 2020

    Hi! I am in serious need of some advice. I am officially a UTM student, but I only took 4.0 credits there in my first year. I took 5.0 credits at St. George during my second year. I applied to transfer this past year, but was declined because I did not make GPA. Should I try to transfer again in my third year once I boost my GPA? I have taken many classes that would contribute to a major that is only available at St. George. Is it worth it to keep trying to transfer? Thanks so much!

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    hello there,

    this is a bit of a situation you’ve gotten yourself in, huh?

    i’m a little bit stuck on this one as well because i’ve never encountered your circumstances before, and have no clue how i would proceed if i were in your shoes.

    i suppose if you’re super set on st. george, you can definitely try to transfer again for your third year. you’re familiar with the transfer process now, which will hopefully make it a bit easier for you. like you mentioned, your classes would contribute to a major that’s only available at st. george, so it may be worth another transfer attempt just to make those credits useful.

    however, if you’re not confident in your ability to transfer to st. george, you can also look into having those credits transfer to UTM as electives, so that they don’t totally go to waste and can still count towards your degree. i’m not sure how many of them will transfer over, but this may be worth looking into just so you can weigh your options with better information available. as you’re probably already aware, you can check their transferrability using transfer explorer, or perhaps by reaching out to the relevant UTM departments.

    that’s about all i can think of. i would really, really recommend that you reach out to your registrar and book an appointment. i feel like it would be much more helpful for you to talk this through with a real!live!person! who’ll be able to walk you through all your potential options.

    good luck :/

    be Boundless,

    aska

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  • economics,  internal transfer

    what’s 90 dollars in the face of tuition, anyway?

    June 6, 2020

    Hi so I’ve currently been accepted to social sciences and humanities as an alternative offer however i am more keen in BBA management or a Bachelor of Arts in Econ’s. Is it possible to accept my offer and switch later on in my course to a different faculty such as management ?

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    hey there!

    it is possible to switch to different faculties after admission, yes. i believe this would require you to complete an internal transfer, which costs $90 and is done through OUAC. the deadline’s usually sometime in the beginning of the calendar year, which would give you some time to test the waters in socsci/humanities during the fall semester before you ultimately make your decision.

    you can find info about doing an internal transfer from artsci to rotman here, assuming you’re a st. george kid. the rotman faculty that this particular internal transfer is quite competitive, so you should have a backup in mind, and make sure that you take the required first-year entry courses.

    meanwhile, if you decide that you’d like to take a bachelor of arts in econ, you wouldn’t need to do anything! that is, other than take the appropriate prerequisites and apply for an econ POSt.

    my advice would be, if you’re set on switching, to take the required courses for a rotman transfer as well as the prereqs for a major in econ. there’s some overlap between the two, which will make your life a little easier. that way, if your rotman transfer goes through, great! and if not, you have a backup path in a field of study that you’re also interested in.

    be Boundless,

    aska

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  • internal transfer,  transfer credits

    transfer explorer are u ok

    June 4, 2020

    Hi! I applied to transfer from UTM to UTSG for my second year and I just finished up my first year. I’ve been planning to do this since around the beginning of my time at UTM and so I planned my courses in a way that I knew they would transfer to UTSG. I made sure this was the case for ALL the courses I took. The problem is, checking on transferex now, it’s not showing some of the courses as transferrable to utsg even though it did at the beginning of the year. Do you know what this means?

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    hello hello,
    i don’t have a ton of experience with transfer explorer, and it’s a bit tough for me to check this over without any specific course codes. it does sound like you planned well ahead though, which makes this situation pretty strange.
    have you reached out to anyone about it? i know the transfer credit departments in general usually take a heckin’ ton of time to respond, but maybe an academic advisor at your registrar might know what’s happening. transfer explorer itself recommends that you speak with an academic advisor, so that’s probably your best course of action right now.
    sorry i can’t be more specific! i hope for your sake that it’s just an error, but i do know that on occasion, course equivalencies do change without warning. not to scare you without reason, or anything. don’t panic before you find out what’s going on!!
    be Boundless,
     aska
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  • computer science,  internal transfer,  UTM,  UTSC

    ThEy WiLL nOt Be AcCePtEd As EquiVALeNts

    June 2, 2020

    Hello there,I was wondering if I could transfer from UTSC CS to UTM. However, the POSt requirements for CS at UTM it says “Note that only CSC148H5, taken at the UTM campus, will be accepted. Please do not take CSC148H1(UTSG) or CSCA48H3(UTSC); they will not be accepted as equivalent for the purposes of program enrolment. “According to that, Can I still transfer?TNX

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    hey there,

    it sounds like you’d be able to transfer to the UTM campus, but possibly not directly into UTM’s compsci program. if you’re determined to be a UTM kiddo, you could probably try doing your internal transfer first, taking CSC148H5, and then applying to the compsci POSt at UTM. that’s what the situation seems like to me, anyway.

    to be 100% sure, i’d check this over with your registrar, or with someone at the UTM compsci department. maybe both. i’m sure they’ve seen this situation before. good luck!

    be Boundless,

    aska

     

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  • internal transfer

    it me, a blessing

    March 12, 2020

    Heyyyy! Just wanted to say this website is a blessing, so helpful! I had a quick question about internal transfer (I’m sorry, i know they are the most annoying questions :(. Im currently a first year at UTSC life sci, and um chem didnt go too well, so Im retaking it this sem, and was panning to do the other chem in the summer. I sent my internal application for UTSG in January but it it only says “application received” and nothing else :(. Does this mean something? Or are they just waiting for my second sem marks? Cuz i did say to send the transcript for winter and summer. Any advice or information is greatly appreciated ?
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    hey there,

    internal transfers are, indeed, one of the most obscure things at this school. how do they work? when do they work? wish i knew.

    i mean… you could try calling the undergraduate admissions office for utsg artsci, and ask them if there’s anything else you need to submit right now. it is entirely possible that they’re just waiting for your marks to be updated. but yeah, only they would be able to tell you for sure. if you haven’t sent any transcripts at all along yet, then i doubt you’re going to get any results back until you do. they can’t assess you without your marks, after all.

    if you’ve sent in everything you’ve been told to send in, then i’d just say sit tight and wait for your application status to change.

    if you haven’t spoken to your registrar’s office re: your internal transfer yet, i’d reach out to them as well. they may know more than i do / be able to advise you more in-depth.

    best of luck with the transfer! hope it goes through.

    be Boundless,

    aska

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  • internal transfer

    le big sigh

    February 7, 2020

    Hi, I am currently a first year UTSC student wanting to transfer to UTSG for second year. I applied to the social sciences program and I was wondering what the general competitive cGPA for internal transfer is. I have a 2.9 right now and I am a little nervous. Please let me know!!

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    hey there,

    i’ve gotten this question a few times in the past, and it never ceases to frustrate me how little info there is on internal transfers to UTSG. UTM has its competitive internal transfer cGPA estimate– where’s st. g’s? geez.

    i’ve been told nothing gets published because it’s such a dynamic pool of applicants, and they can’t actually put a number out and risk being held to it in case it doesn’t accurately reflect what they get that year. which i guess kind of makes sense?? but doesn’t really help you out much. i wish i had more on this, i do. it sucks that you just kinda gotta keep your fingers crossed and wait for word. which isn’t ideal.

    you might try calling enrolment services and see if they’re willing to tell you anything. that’d be my best bet, although i only have about 38% confidence it will work.

    best of luck, though. aska is cheerin’ for ya.

    be Boundless,

    aska

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