{"id":12951,"date":"2015-01-22T14:45:09","date_gmt":"2015-01-22T19:45:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=12951"},"modified":"2019-08-04T19:23:22","modified_gmt":"2019-08-04T23:23:22","slug":"i-cant-be-a-doctor-because-i-hated-the-cow-eyeball-lab-in-ap-bio","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=12951","title":{"rendered":"i can&#8217;t be a doctor because i hated the cow eyeball lab in AP bio."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hey there,<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m a third year student at utm and I have a cgpa of 3.71 but an omsas gpa?of 3.56 which puts me below the 3.6 cut-off for U of T med school. My?volunteer activities aren&#8217;t that impressive either: I volunteer about 6 hrs?a week on campus as a first aid responder and I&#8217;m a research assistant in a?psych study. I also plan on volunteering at a clinic\/ hospital this summer?but that&#8217;s all I have so far. In the past, I did tutor kids voluntarily in?high school and was a prefect and the chairperson of my school&#8217;s science?club.<\/p>\n<p>Realistically, what do you think are my chances of making the cut? Do you?have any advice (again, realistic advice)?<\/p>\n<p>Out of curiosity, when U of T says the average accepted applicant has a gpa?of 3.88, is that on the omsas scale or in general? Also, do you know if the?american scale (AMCAS) converts grades in a similar way as OMSAS? Because?omsas is killing me.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks!<\/p>\n<p>???????????????<\/p>\n<p>hey there,<\/p>\n<p>since <a href=\"http:\/\/www.md.utoronto.ca\/admissions\/information\/requirements\/Undergraduate.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">3.6 is the?cut-off<\/a>, i doubt you would have much chance getting in if you hadn&#8217;t met that. HOWEVER, you are only in third year. you have (at least) three more semesters to get your GPA as high as you possibly can.<\/p>\n<p>now, i&#8217;m no admissions committee, but i wouldn&#8217;t call your volunteer activity unimpressive. obviously, i have no way of comparing you to everyone else who is going to be applying to uoft med school in your year, so my opinion isn&#8217;t authoritative. i find everyone impressive, honestly. i find <a href=\"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/applause.gif\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">getting to class on time impressive<\/a> &#8211; but that&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/obama-sad.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">another issue<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>still, i wouldn&#8217;t <a href=\"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/tears.gif\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">despair<\/a> just yet. if you stay on track with your plan to volunteer this summer, i think you&#8217;ll be doing ok. (again, i can&#8217;t REALLY answer this question because i &#8211; tragically &#8211; haven&#8217;t been invited to be a part of any admissions boards, but this is just MY FEEL of the situation. if you want some more professional?advice, i&#8217;d recommend <a href=\"http:\/\/www.md.utoronto.ca\/admissions\/Recruitment_Events.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">talking to<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.md.utoronto.ca\/contacts.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">uoft med admissions<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>focus on your GPA. take advantage of utm&#8217;s?<a href=\"http:\/\/www.utm.utoronto.ca\/asc\/welcome\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">academic resources<\/a> (before you object: 1. you&#8217;re paying for it already, you may as well use it; 2. no it&#8217;s not an admission of defeat to ask for help).<\/p>\n<p>get a tutor, if you think it will help. if you&#8217;re taking some pretty specialized courses that don&#8217;t often get tutored, ask around the department of the courses you&#8217;re having trouble with to see whether there are any grad students willing to help you. go to your profs&#8217;\/TAs&#8217; office hours. put aside one more hour of the day for studying. there&#8217;s a lot you can do.<\/p>\n<p>you&#8217;re already doing <a href=\"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/rpatz.gif\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a great job<\/a> &#8211; all you need is to make one or two small changes that can push your academic career from &#8216;really good&#8217; to &#8216;competitive.&#8217; try and figure out where you need to make some improvements, and seek out help in those areas.<\/p>\n<p>to see how your grades would convert on the AMCAS scale, take a look at the very last table on the last page of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aamc.org\/students\/download\/181676\/data\/amcas_grade_conversion_guide.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this document<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>best of luck with it!<\/p>\n<p>aska<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hey there, I&#8217;m a third year student at utm and I have a cgpa of 3.71 but an omsas gpa?of 3.56 which puts me below the 3.6 cut-off for U of T med school. My?volunteer activities aren&#8217;t that impressive either: I volunteer about 6 hrs?a week on campus as a first aid responder and I&#8217;m a research assistant in a?psych study. I also plan on volunteering at a clinic\/ hospital this summer?but that&#8217;s all I have so far. In the past, I did tutor kids voluntarily in?high school and was a prefect and the chairperson of my school&#8217;s science?club. Realistically, what do you think are my chances of making the cut? Do you?have any advice (again, realistic advice)? Out of curiosity, when U of T says the average accepted applicant has a gpa?of 3.88, is that on the omsas scale or in general? Also, do you know if the?american scale (AMCAS) converts grades in a similar way as OMSAS? Because?omsas is killing me. Thanks! ??????????????? hey there, since 3.6 is the?cut-off, i doubt you would have much chance getting in if you hadn&#8217;t met that. HOWEVER, you are only in third year. you have (at least) three more semesters to get your GPA as high as you possibly can. now, i&#8217;m no admissions committee, but i wouldn&#8217;t call your volunteer activity unimpressive. obviously, i have no way of comparing you to everyone else who is going to be applying to uoft med school in your year, so my opinion isn&#8217;t authoritative. i find everyone impressive, honestly. i find getting to class on time impressive &#8211; but that&#8217;s another issue. still, i wouldn&#8217;t despair just yet. if you stay on track with your plan to volunteer this summer, i think you&#8217;ll be doing ok. (again, i can&#8217;t REALLY answer this question because i &#8211; tragically &#8211; haven&#8217;t been invited to be a part of any admissions boards, but this is just MY FEEL of the situation. if you want some more professional?advice, i&#8217;d recommend talking to uoft med admissions). focus on your GPA. take advantage of utm&#8217;s?academic resources (before you object: 1. you&#8217;re paying for it already, you may as well use it; 2. no it&#8217;s not an admission of defeat to ask for help). get a tutor, if you think it will help. if you&#8217;re taking some pretty specialized courses that don&#8217;t often get tutored, ask around the department of the courses you&#8217;re having trouble with to see whether there are any grad students willing to help you. go to your profs&#8217;\/TAs&#8217; office hours. put aside one more hour of the day for studying. there&#8217;s a lot you can do. you&#8217;re already doing a great job &#8211; all you need is to make one or two small changes that can push your academic career from &#8216;really good&#8217; to &#8216;competitive.&#8217; try and figure out where you need to make some improvements, and seek out help in those areas. to see how your grades would convert on the AMCAS scale, take a look at the very last table on the last page of this document. best of luck with it! aska<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[112],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12951","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-med-school"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Hey there, I&#039;m a third year student at utm and I have a cgpa of 3.71 but an omsas gpa?of 3.56 which puts me below the 3.6 cut-off for U of T med school. 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