{"id":16649,"date":"2016-02-23T15:22:54","date_gmt":"2016-02-23T20:22:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=16649"},"modified":"2019-07-20T21:11:08","modified_gmt":"2019-07-21T01:11:08","slug":"not-about-that-linear-path-of-life","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=16649","title":{"rendered":"not about that linear path of life"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hey there aska [aka light from heaven above],<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m currently a 2nd year UTSC student who&#8217;s doing 2 majors and a minor (IDS, Public Policy co-op, and Econ minor). HOWEVER, I want to make my economics minor a major after finding out I really like the subject matter. the thing is, I&#8217;m missing 2 first year calc courses that are require for econ majors. I can take them in 3rd year but while I think I can manage 70s in the calc courses I know that will lower my (C)GPA quite a bit and I AM looking towards grad school eventually [maybe law school, maybe just in social sciences idk yet but that&#8217;s another problem] my question is that I&#8217;m just wondering if it&#8217;ll be worth it to risk lowering my GPA in 3rd year when grad schools look at that .. especially since they are first year courses [p.s I did the math and I could still graduate on time thanks to the 12 distinct credit rule and ids\/pp\/econ having overlapping courses].<\/p>\n<p>An add-on question is that I took a statistics course (stab22) earlier for a pre-req towards my other majors but it counts as an exclusion to a quantitative methods of economics class I need to take for my econ major. I did rlly well in stats (83%) so will that mark go to waste? Or can I still apply that to satisfy my IDS requirement and just uptake the other econ class to fulfill my requirements, thereby using both towards my gpa [since its different majors] despite being considered exclusions.<\/p>\n<p>My last chance to apply as an econ major will be at the end of this sem when I have 10 credits so I&#8217;m super confused!!!!!<\/p>\n<p>Any and all opinions\/info\/train of thought is very much appreciated!!!!!,<\/p>\n<p>Thanks a bunch ;-;<\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014<\/p>\n<p>hey there,<\/p>\n<p>listen, i understand that this is a tough situation. i&#8217;ve been in a similar one myself. and i know that in these situations, ALL YOU WANT is for <a href=\"http:\/\/i58.photobucket.com\/albums\/g246\/sey115\/racheldecisions_zps6cb8ccf4.gif\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">someone to tell you what to do<\/a>. &#8220;just tell me what i should do and i&#8217;ll do it, no complaints!&#8221; i&#8217;ve begged people. but they can&#8217;t tell me what to do, just like i can&#8217;t tell <em>you<\/em> what to do. you&#8217;re in charge &#8211; doesn&#8217;t that suck?<\/p>\n<p>ultimately, you have to figure out the POSt configuration that will make you <a href=\"http:\/\/in1.ccio.co\/74\/CB\/H5\/104919866288390387LiLen8wCc.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">happiest<\/a>. i do have a few general tidbits of advice, which you can feel free to take or leave as you like:<\/p>\n<p>i <em>wouldn&#8217;t<\/em> recommend making a decision based on tentative post-graduation plans. since you&#8217;re not sure exactly what you&#8217;d like to do in terms of postgrad, you&#8217;ll be very frustrated with your past self in fourth year if you made a decision based on a path you&#8217;re not following anymore. chances are, the POSt combination that you&#8217;re most excited about, is the one in which you&#8217;ll be most successful. even with calc.<\/p>\n<p>if you find the econ. major really interesting, then go for it. keep in mind, though, that you&#8217;re <a href=\"http:\/\/www.utsc.utoronto.ca\/~registrar\/calendars\/calendar\/Programs_of_Study.html#Regulations_concerning_Programs_of_study\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">not allowed to have three majors<\/a>, so you&#8217;ll either have to drop another major before you add econ., OR change one to a minor. keep in mind that while <a href=\"https:\/\/www.utsc.utoronto.ca\/~registrar\/current_students\/subject_post_codes#I\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the IDS major has unlimited enrolment, the public policy co-op major is unlimited<\/a>, so i&#8217;d recommend thinking on it\/discussing with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.utsc.utoronto.ca\/~registrar\/general\/contact_info\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">your registrar <\/a>before dropping or downgrading from that one, because you won&#8217;t be able to easily add it back.<\/p>\n<p>also, whatever you decide to do, it&#8217;s best not to drop anything before you get into the econ major. since <a href=\"https:\/\/www.utsc.utoronto.ca\/~registrar\/current_students\/subject_post_codes#E\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">that major has limited enrolment<\/a>, there is always the possibility that you won&#8217;t be accepted (i mean, not to be pessimistic or anything. i&#8217;m sure you will be. but just in case). wait to be accepted before you go dropping or changing around your other POSts &#8211; it&#8217;s just easier.<\/p>\n<p>as to your second question: it&#8217;s the other way around. the second course that you take will be <a href=\"http:\/\/www.utsc.utoronto.ca\/~registrar\/calendars\/calendar\/Economics_for_Management_Studies.html#MAJOR_PROGRAM_IN_ECONOMICS_FOR_MANAGEMENT_STUDIES_(ARTS)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">an extra<\/a> because it is an exclusion of a course you&#8217;ve already taken. that means that it will count towards your econ. major, but it will NOT count towards your GPA or 20.0 degree credits.<\/p>\n<p>you won&#8217;t be able to make <em>both<\/em> count towards your GPA. what you might be able to do, though, is convince the economics deparmtent to accept the stats course you&#8217;ve already taken to fulfil this requirement. you can contact them at ecoss ( at) utsc (. ) utoronto ( .) ca.<\/p>\n<p>good luck with everything!<\/p>\n<p>aska<\/p>\n<p>P.S. thank you for your excellent e-mail subject line &#8211; i hope you don&#8217;t mind that i&#8217;ve appropriated it as title for this post.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hey there aska [aka light from heaven above], I&#8217;m currently a 2nd year UTSC student who&#8217;s doing 2 majors and a minor (IDS, Public Policy co-op, and Econ minor). HOWEVER, I want to make my economics minor a major after finding out I really like the subject matter. the thing is, I&#8217;m missing 2 first year calc courses that are require for econ majors. I can take them in 3rd year but while I think I can manage 70s in the calc courses I know that will lower my (C)GPA quite a bit and I AM looking towards grad school eventually [maybe law school, maybe just in social sciences idk yet but that&#8217;s another problem] my question is that I&#8217;m just wondering if it&#8217;ll be worth it to risk lowering my GPA in 3rd year when grad schools look at that .. especially since they are first year courses [p.s I did the math and I could still graduate on time thanks to the 12 distinct credit rule and ids\/pp\/econ having overlapping courses]. An add-on question is that I took a statistics course (stab22) earlier for a pre-req towards my other majors but it counts as an exclusion to a quantitative methods of economics class I need to take for my econ major. I did rlly well in stats (83%) so will that mark go to waste? Or can I still apply that to satisfy my IDS requirement and just uptake the other econ class to fulfill my requirements, thereby using both towards my gpa [since its different majors] despite being considered exclusions. My last chance to apply as an econ major will be at the end of this sem when I have 10 credits so I&#8217;m super confused!!!!! Any and all opinions\/info\/train of thought is very much appreciated!!!!!, Thanks a bunch ;-; \u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014 hey there, listen, i understand that this is a tough situation. i&#8217;ve been in a similar one myself. and i know that in these situations, ALL YOU WANT is for someone to tell you what to do. &#8220;just tell me what i should do and i&#8217;ll do it, no complaints!&#8221; i&#8217;ve begged people. but they can&#8217;t tell me what to do, just like i can&#8217;t tell you what to do. you&#8217;re in charge &#8211; doesn&#8217;t that suck? ultimately, you have to figure out the POSt configuration that will make you happiest. i do have a few general tidbits of advice, which you can feel free to take or leave as you like: i wouldn&#8217;t recommend making a decision based on tentative post-graduation plans. since you&#8217;re not sure exactly what you&#8217;d like to do in terms of postgrad, you&#8217;ll be very frustrated with your past self in fourth year if you made a decision based on a path you&#8217;re not following anymore. chances are, the POSt combination that you&#8217;re most excited about, is the one in which you&#8217;ll be most successful. even with calc. if you find the econ. major really interesting, then go for it. keep in mind, though, that you&#8217;re not allowed to have three majors, so you&#8217;ll either have to drop another major before you add econ., OR change one to a minor. keep in mind that while the IDS major has unlimited enrolment, the public policy co-op major is unlimited, so i&#8217;d recommend thinking on it\/discussing with your registrar before dropping or downgrading from that one, because you won&#8217;t be able to easily add it back. also, whatever you decide to do, it&#8217;s best not to drop anything before you get into the econ major. since that major has limited enrolment, there is always the possibility that you won&#8217;t be accepted (i mean, not to be pessimistic or anything. i&#8217;m sure you will be. but just in case). wait to be accepted before you go dropping or changing around your other POSts &#8211; it&#8217;s just easier. as to your second question: it&#8217;s the other way around. the second course that you take will be an extra because it is an exclusion of a course you&#8217;ve already taken. that means that it will count towards your econ. major, but it will NOT count towards your GPA or 20.0 degree credits. you won&#8217;t be able to make both count towards your GPA. what you might be able to do, though, is convince the economics deparmtent to accept the stats course you&#8217;ve already taken to fulfil this requirement. you can contact them at ecoss ( at) utsc (. ) utoronto ( .) ca. good luck with everything! aska P.S. thank you for your excellent e-mail subject line &#8211; i hope you don&#8217;t mind that i&#8217;ve appropriated it as title for this post.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[206,51],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16649","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-exclusions","category-subject-post"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.9 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Hey there aska [aka light from heaven above], I&#039;m currently a 2nd year UTSC student who&#039;s doing 2 majors and a minor (IDS, Public Policy co-op, and Econ minor). 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