{"id":17560,"date":"2016-06-23T15:33:19","date_gmt":"2016-06-23T19:33:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=17560"},"modified":"2019-07-20T20:29:29","modified_gmt":"2019-07-21T00:29:29","slug":"the-cln-scares-you-wait-til-you-get-on-campus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=17560","title":{"rendered":"the CLN scares you? wait &#8217;til you get on campus"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>hiya,love this blog i got a couple questionsfyi-&gt; incoming full time- first year- st.george- engineering- unsettled 1) what counts as honors standing in the engineering faculty for undergrads? they said someone is accepted to transfer to any engineering program even engsci after first year if they finish both first year semesters with honors but it doesn&#8217;t say\u00a0 what gpa that would be or what else is considered&#8230;2)&#8230;should i be studying during summer as in is it expected or recommended by whoevers recommendations i&#8217;m supposed to listen to? 3) when i check my osap application status for full time studies it says i still need to provide documents for both the parent declaration and the student declaration. i printed them myself and uploaded them and i thought that was good enough because its says upload them or submit to your financial aid office. in one column beside the name of the documents\u00a0 it says received on one side yet there&#8217;s a big red X on the other side. for the MSFAA that i mailed in its a green check and it says done instead of recieved. i uploaded them june 1st am i risking getting funding in time by not handing my declarations in to financial aid on top of uploading?! 4)what happens if a dont have enough money, i read a post about UTAPS helping but i missed that feb deadline by a mile 5)work-study only lets you work 12 hours, can i have 2 work-study jobs? or should i just get a part time job without restrictions is is even possible for first years to get work-study in labs or libraries, CLN scares me 6) i will be commuting 4 hours total, i wanted to save the rent money (rent debt tbh since osap would bankroll me) is this doable do commuters grades suffer? like is it too much to sleep in a library then boot and rally to shower at a gym and keep things in a rented locker for lectures sometimes<\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014<\/p>\n<p>hey there,<\/p>\n<p>1) i don&#8217;t know what you mean by honours standing. as far as i can see, the minimum university GPA to be considered as a transfer applicant to engineering <a href=\"http:\/\/discover.engineering.utoronto.ca\/apply\/admission-requirements\/transfer-applicants\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">would be a B<\/a> (which at 5 uoft <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsci.utoronto.ca\/newstudents\/transition\/academic\/grading\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">would be a 3.0<\/a>). so i guess that&#8217;s the answer!<\/p>\n<p>2) i mean, if you feel really insecure about a certain subject or something, it could certainly never hurt to study extra (not to mention how admirable it would be). if you want my personal thoughts, though? i would spend the summer before university travelling if you can, spending time with family, relaxing, and maybe earning a bit of money to help put you through university. you have four years of studying ahead of you. may as well enjoy the time off while you can.<\/p>\n<p>3) that all sounds fine to me? and if you submitted by june 1st you should be assessed in time. however, if anything looks weird or out of place to you, the place to call would be <a href=\"http:\/\/www.adm.utoronto.ca\/contact-information\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">enrolment services<\/a>. maybe you have to submit the signature forms to enrolment services\u00a0as well as uploading them, or something. also, some portions of the application are completed by the school, rather than by you, so perhaps those things are showing as unfinished and it&#8217;s throwing you off. regardless, enrolment services will be able to walk you through it and sort things out.<\/p>\n<p>4) if you&#8217;re an Ontario student getting OSAP, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.adm.utoronto.ca\/financial-aid\/u-of-t-advance-planning-for-students-utaps\/utaps-application-procedure-for-current-u-of-t-students\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">you will be automatically assessed for UTAPS<\/a>. the February deadline is only for out-of-province students.<\/p>\n<p>5) you can only work one work-study job at a\u00a0time, and to be honest, that&#8217;s probably a good thing. 24 hours a week is bordering on excessive for a full-time student, ESPECIALLY a first-year student. that&#8217;s just my two cents, though. if you&#8217;re determined to work two jobs or need to for financial reasons, you can. you can get a work-study and a non-work-study job, or even get your second job off-campus.<\/p>\n<p>as for how difficult it is to get a job: i&#8217;m not gonna lie, lots of lab\/research opportunities go to upper-year students with more specialized knowledge. on the flip-side, there are a TON of work-study jobs that go up for September. whatever it is that scares you about the CLN, you gotta get over it, because it&#8217;s a treasure trove of opportunity.* try and think of the job listings as a fun adventure (and i know this is hard when you&#8217;re strapped for cash, but it is the only way to get through the horror of a job search in my experience; otherwise, you&#8217;ll checkout mentally and not be as alert in the hunt). there are lots of opportunities here, and maybe even a couple that are perfect for you.<\/p>\n<p>6) commuting is rough. i commuted for my second year only, and my total commute was three hours long. it was not fun. i felt exhausted at the end of every day. however, having now finished my degree, i&#8217;ve looked back \u00a0and realized that my highest annual GPA happened in my second year, the only year i had that brutal commute.<\/p>\n<p>how did this happen? well, it&#8217;s certainly not because the people snoring softly in the quiet zone of the GO train inspired me academically. it&#8217;s because commuting forces you to be really smart about how you spend your time. a large part of that is time management, i.e. studying in the library between classes, setting up a weekly study schedule that you make sure to stick to, etc., BUT it also forces you not to overburden yourself. when you live close to or on campus, you can sometimes convince yourself that you can do\u00a0<em>everything<\/em>, because it&#8217;s all so close by!<\/p>\n<p>by contrast, knowing that your commute takes up time\/energy forces you to be realistic about how much you can do outside of school. in second year, my participation was meaningful, but modest. i was part of a few clubs, each of which only required a couple hours a week of my time, i had a work-study, and that was it. and i did really well in school! fancy that.<\/p>\n<p>by sharing my experience, i don&#8217;t mean\u00a0to imply that yours will be exactly the same. everyone has a different experience at university, especially one as big as uoft. i just want you to know: it&#8217;s possible. if you&#8217;re smart and organized about it, you can do it.<\/p>\n<p>finally: you may want to check out <a href=\"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?cat=96\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">these<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?cat=166\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">tags<\/a> if you&#8217;re already thinking about sleeping in libraries; there&#8217;s a lot of info there about the best places to study, rent lockers, cry without being noticed (hopefully you won&#8217;t need that one), nap, etc.<\/p>\n<p>cheers,<\/p>\n<p>aska<\/p>\n<p>*i know that this makes me sound like a greasy capitalist. i&#8217;m sorry.\u00a0i feel slimy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>hiya,love this blog i got a couple questionsfyi-&gt; incoming full time- first year- st.george- engineering- unsettled 1) what counts as honors standing in the engineering faculty for undergrads? they said someone is accepted to transfer to any engineering program even engsci after first year if they finish both first year semesters with honors but it doesn&#8217;t say\u00a0 what gpa that would be or what else is considered&#8230;2)&#8230;should i be studying during summer as in is it expected or recommended by whoevers recommendations i&#8217;m supposed to listen to? 3) when i check my osap application status for full time studies it says i still need to provide documents for both the parent declaration and the student declaration. i printed them myself and uploaded them and i thought that was good enough because its says upload them or submit to your financial aid office. in one column beside the name of the documents\u00a0 it says received on one side yet there&#8217;s a big red X on the other side. for the MSFAA that i mailed in its a green check and it says done instead of recieved. i uploaded them june 1st am i risking getting funding in time by not handing my declarations in to financial aid on top of uploading?! 4)what happens if a dont have enough money, i read a post about UTAPS helping but i missed that feb deadline by a mile 5)work-study only lets you work 12 hours, can i have 2 work-study jobs? or should i just get a part time job without restrictions is is even possible for first years to get work-study in labs or libraries, CLN scares me 6) i will be commuting 4 hours total, i wanted to save the rent money (rent debt tbh since osap would bankroll me) is this doable do commuters grades suffer? like is it too much to sleep in a library then boot and rally to shower at a gym and keep things in a rented locker for lectures sometimes \u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014 hey there, 1) i don&#8217;t know what you mean by honours standing. as far as i can see, the minimum university GPA to be considered as a transfer applicant to engineering would be a B (which at 5 uoft would be a 3.0). so i guess that&#8217;s the answer! 2) i mean, if you feel really insecure about a certain subject or something, it could certainly never hurt to study extra (not to mention how admirable it would be). if you want my personal thoughts, though? i would spend the summer before university travelling if you can, spending time with family, relaxing, and maybe earning a bit of money to help put you through university. you have four years of studying ahead of you. may as well enjoy the time off while you can. 3) that all sounds fine to me? and if you submitted by june 1st you should be assessed in time. however, if anything looks weird or out of place to you, the place to call would be enrolment services. maybe you have to submit the signature forms to enrolment services\u00a0as well as uploading them, or something. also, some portions of the application are completed by the school, rather than by you, so perhaps those things are showing as unfinished and it&#8217;s throwing you off. regardless, enrolment services will be able to walk you through it and sort things out. 4) if you&#8217;re an Ontario student getting OSAP, you will be automatically assessed for UTAPS. the February deadline is only for out-of-province students. 5) you can only work one work-study job at a\u00a0time, and to be honest, that&#8217;s probably a good thing. 24 hours a week is bordering on excessive for a full-time student, ESPECIALLY a first-year student. that&#8217;s just my two cents, though. if you&#8217;re determined to work two jobs or need to for financial reasons, you can. you can get a work-study and a non-work-study job, or even get your second job off-campus. as for how difficult it is to get a job: i&#8217;m not gonna lie, lots of lab\/research opportunities go to upper-year students with more specialized knowledge. on the flip-side, there are a TON of work-study jobs that go up for September. whatever it is that scares you about the CLN, you gotta get over it, because it&#8217;s a treasure trove of opportunity.* try and think of the job listings as a fun adventure (and i know this is hard when you&#8217;re strapped for cash, but it is the only way to get through the horror of a job search in my experience; otherwise, you&#8217;ll checkout mentally and not be as alert in the hunt). there are lots of opportunities here, and maybe even a couple that are perfect for you. 6) commuting is rough. i commuted for my second year only, and my total commute was three hours long. it was not fun. i felt exhausted at the end of every day. however, having now finished my degree, i&#8217;ve looked back \u00a0and realized that my highest annual GPA happened in my second year, the only year i had that brutal commute. how did this happen? well, it&#8217;s certainly not because the people snoring softly in the quiet zone of the GO train inspired me academically. it&#8217;s because commuting forces you to be really smart about how you spend your time. a large part of that is time management, i.e. studying in the library between classes, setting up a weekly study schedule that you make sure to stick to, etc., BUT it also forces you not to overburden yourself. when you live close to or on campus, you can sometimes convince yourself that you can do\u00a0everything, because it&#8217;s all so close by! by contrast, knowing that your commute takes up time\/energy forces you to be realistic about how much you can do outside of school. in second year, my participation was meaningful, but modest. i was part of a few clubs, each of which only required a couple hours a week of my time, i had a work-study, and that was it. and i did really well in school! fancy that. by sharing my experience, i don&#8217;t mean\u00a0to imply that yours will be exactly the same. everyone has a different experience at university, especially one as big as uoft. i just want you to know: it&#8217;s possible. if you&#8217;re smart and organized about it, you can do it. finally: you may want to check out these\u00a0tags if you&#8217;re already thinking about sleeping in libraries; there&#8217;s a lot of info there about the best places to study, rent lockers, cry without being noticed (hopefully you won&#8217;t need that one), nap, etc. cheers, aska *i know that this makes me sound like a greasy capitalist. i&#8217;m sorry.\u00a0i feel slimy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[118,54,147,196,235],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-17560","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-first-year","category-jobs","category-osap","category-utaps","category-work-study"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.9 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"hiya,love this blog i got a couple questionsfyi-&gt; incoming full time- first year- st.george- engineering- unsettled 1) what counts as honors standing in the engineering faculty for undergrads? 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