{"id":1875,"date":"2009-11-17T11:44:59","date_gmt":"2009-11-17T16:44:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=1875"},"modified":"2015-03-10T10:44:37","modified_gmt":"2015-03-10T14:44:37","slug":"1875","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=1875","title":{"rendered":"omg, only an 86?!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Hey aska,<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>im a grade twelve student who&#8217;s been going through a rough start to my year. Due to some personal reason, the first half of my math and physics marks are low.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve recently overcome my personal problems and have started to get my regular marks again.<br \/>\nRe-encouraged i went to talk to my teachers and see what they had to say about me.<br \/>\nMy physics teacher said that if i continued the way i was going i would probably end up with an 86 by the end of my semester.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>However, my math teacher said that i would only be able to get an 82&#8230;<br \/>\nNow math is my average booster as u usually get 90+ in it, however this year, im actually doing bad at it&#8230;<br \/>\nI planned to redo so that i can get a higher average.<br \/>\n<\/em><br \/>\n<em>I then heard a rumor that none of the UofT campuses look at retaken courses&#8230; discouraged i tried googling this rumor for about a week with no avail. However i did stumble upon this site which has relieved alot of other stresses but not the main one.<br \/>\nI was hoping you could help me and anyone else in my situation by answering these questions:<br \/>\n<\/em><br \/>\n<em>a) Do the UofT campuses consider at retaken courses?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>b) Would it be better to retake a course in second semester night school or summer school?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>c) Does UofT even look at anything like UWO&#8217;s Special Consideration Profile?? (my reason for doing poorly during the first half of my first semester)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Eagerly(Desperately) waiting for a reply,<br \/>\nMe<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>This post reeks of of ?<a href=\"http:\/\/2dboy.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/nerd.jpg\">overachiever<\/a>?. Who retakes physics when they already have an 86% average?<\/p>\n<p>Sorry to hear about your personal problems, though. Hopefully, they?re not troubling you anymore.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, the answer to your question is? it depends. What program are you applying to at UofT? If you?re applying to a program within the Faculty of Arts and Science on the St. George campus, then yes ? they do accept repeated courses. However, this might not case for some of the other Faculties or campuses at UofT, such as <a href=\"http:\/\/discover.engineering.utoronto.ca\/apply\/admissions-faq\/\">engineering<\/a> (not sure if you were considering engineering at UofT, but if that was the reason you wanted to retake your math and physics courses, well, there?s your reason not to do it). <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsandscience.utoronto.ca\/ofr\/calendar\/crs_rsm.htm\">Commerce will let you repeat courses<\/a>, but will need you to give a valid reason. <a href=\"http:\/\/webapps.utsc.utoronto.ca\/admissions\/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=46\">UTSC<\/a> doesn?t seem to like people repeating courses, though (?the University reserves the right to give preference to students whose marks are the result of a single attempt at each course?). I couldn?t find anything about UTM, but you should really stop using Google as your main source of information. Searching on the web will only get you so far &#8211; all you?re gonna get is <em>more <\/em>rumours, and we all know how true those are. Go phone or email them instead. You?ll need to get used to doing a lot of phoning and emailing for information after you get into University anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Uh, as for whether it?d be better to retake a course in night school or summer school, definitely night school. Universities won&#8217;t have time to look at your summer school marks &#8211; and by the time you finish your course, decisions will already have been made. Overloading yourself with night school during the semester is a little risky, though.<\/p>\n<p>There are for student profiles Commerce and Engineering programs, but not for the Faculty of Arts and Science (again, not sure about UTM and UTSC; it probably depends on the program you apply to). However, don?t forget that even if there is no student profile, you can always write a letter to admissions and awards explaining your personal circumstances.<\/p>\n<p>You should really get used to doing your best on your first try, though. 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&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\">Hey aska,<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>im a grade twelve student who&#8217;s been going through a rough start to my year. Due to some personal reason, the first half of my math and physics marks are low.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve recently overcome my personal problems and have started to get my regular marks again.<br \/>\nRe-encouraged i went to talk to my teachers and see what they had to say about me.<br \/>\nMy physics teacher said that if i continued the way i was going i would probably end up with an 86 by the end of my semester.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>However, my math teacher said that i would only be able to get an 82&#8230;<br \/>\nNow math is my average booster as u usually get 90+ in it, however this year, im actually doing bad at it&#8230;<br \/>\nI planned to redo so that i can get a higher average.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I then heard a rumor that none of the UofT campuses look at retaken courses&#8230; discouraged i tried googling this rumor for about a week with no avail. However i did stumble upon this site which has relieved alot of other stresses but not the main one.<br \/>\nI was hoping you could help me and anyone else in my situation by answering these questions:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>a) Do the UofT campuses consider at retaken courses?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>b) Would it be better to retake a course in second semester night school or summer school?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>c) Does UofT even look at anything like UWO&#8217;s Special Consideration Profile?? (my reason for doing poorly during the first half of my first semester)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Eagerly(Desperately) waiting for a reply,<br \/>\nMe<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\">This post reeks of of ?<a href=\"http:\/\/www.stangbangers.com\/Dilbert_Overachiever.gif\">overachiever<\/a>?? I?m sure there are many people who wished they could get 86 in physics?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\">Sorry to hear about your personal problems though. Hopefully they?re not troubling you anymore. Anyway, the answer to your question is? it depends. What program are you applying to at UofT?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;\">If you?re applying to a program within the Faculty of Arts and Science on the St. George campus, then yes ? we do accept repeated courses. However, this might not case for some of the other Faculties or campuses at UofT, such as engineering (not sure if you were considering engineering at UofT, but if that was the reason you wanted to retake your math and physics courses, well, there?s your reason not to do it). <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsandscience.utoronto.ca\/ofr\/calendar\/crs_rsm.htm\">Commerce will let you repeat courses<\/a>, but will need you to give a valid reason. <a href=\"http:\/\/webapps.utsc.utoronto.ca\/admissions\/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=46\">UTSC<\/a> doesn?t seem to like people repeating courses, though (?<span style=\"color: black;\">the University reserves the right to give preference to students whose marks are the result of a single attempt at each course?). I couldn?t find anything about UTM, but you should really stop using Google as your main source of information. All you?re gonna get is more rumours, and we all know how true <em>those<\/em> are (oh wait. You?re still in high school, so I guess you wouldn?t know). Go phone or email them instead. You?ll need to get used to doing a lot of phoning and emailing for information after you get into University anyway.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;\">Uh, as for whether it?d be better to retake a course in night school or summer school, probably night school. I don?t think Universities even look at the marks you get for the courses you take in summer school after Grade 12.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;\">There are for student profiles Commerce and Engineering programs, but not for the Faculty of Arts and Science (again, not sure about UTM and UTSC; it probably depends on the program you apply to). However, don?t forget that even if there is no student profile, you can always write a letter to the admissions people explaining your personal circumstances. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;\">You should really get used to doing your best on your first try, though. That?s not to say that you won?t be given a second chance, but you probably won?t be retaking that many courses in University and the pace will be a lot faster than what you?re used to in high school.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hey aska, im a grade twelve student who&#8217;s been going through a rough start to my year. Due to some personal reason, the first half of my math and physics marks are low. I&#8217;ve recently overcome my personal problems and have started to get my regular marks again. Re-encouraged i went to talk to my teachers and see what they had to say about me. My physics teacher said that if i continued the way i was going i would probably end up with an 86 by the end of my semester. However, my math teacher said that i would only be able to get an 82&#8230; Now math is my average booster as u usually get 90+ in it, however this year, im actually doing bad at it&#8230; I planned to redo so that i can get a higher average. I then heard a rumor that none of the UofT campuses look at retaken courses&#8230; discouraged i tried googling this rumor for about a week with no avail. However i did stumble upon this site which has relieved alot of other stresses but not the main one. I was hoping you could help me and anyone else in my situation by answering these questions: a) Do the UofT campuses consider at retaken courses? b) Would it be better to retake a course in second semester night school or summer school? c) Does UofT even look at anything like UWO&#8217;s Special Consideration Profile?? (my reason for doing poorly during the first half of my first semester) Eagerly(Desperately) waiting for a reply, Me &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; This post reeks of of ?overachiever?. Who retakes physics when they already have an 86% average? Sorry to hear about your personal problems, though. Hopefully, they?re not troubling you anymore. Anyway, the answer to your question is? it depends. What program are you applying to at UofT? If you?re applying to a program within the Faculty of Arts and Science on the St. George campus, then yes ? they do accept repeated courses. However, this might not case for some of the other Faculties or campuses at UofT, such as engineering (not sure if you were considering engineering at UofT, but if that was the reason you wanted to retake your math and physics courses, well, there?s your reason not to do it). Commerce will let you repeat courses, but will need you to give a valid reason. UTSC doesn?t seem to like people repeating courses, though (?the University reserves the right to give preference to students whose marks are the result of a single attempt at each course?). I couldn?t find anything about UTM, but you should really stop using Google as your main source of information. Searching on the web will only get you so far &#8211; all you?re gonna get is more rumours, and we all know how true those are. Go phone or email them instead. You?ll need to get used to doing a lot of phoning and emailing for information after you get into University anyway. Uh, as for whether it?d be better to retake a course in night school or summer school, definitely night school. Universities won&#8217;t have time to look at your summer school marks &#8211; and by the time you finish your course, decisions will already have been made. Overloading yourself with night school during the semester is a little risky, though. There are for student profiles Commerce and Engineering programs, but not for the Faculty of Arts and Science (again, not sure about UTM and UTSC; it probably depends on the program you apply to). However, don?t forget that even if there is no student profile, you can always write a letter to admissions and awards explaining your personal circumstances. You should really get used to doing your best on your first try, though. That?s not to say that you won?t be given a second chance, but you probably won?t be retaking that many courses in University and the pace will be a lot faster than what you?re used to in high school. Hey aska, im a grade twelve student who&#8217;s been going through a rough start to my year. Due to some personal reason, the first half of my math and physics marks are low. I&#8217;ve recently overcome my personal problems and have started to get my regular marks again. Re-encouraged i went to talk to my teachers and see what they had to say about me. My physics teacher said that if i continued the way i was going i would probably end up with an 86 by the end of my semester. However, my math teacher said that i would only be able to get an 82&#8230; Now math is my average booster as u usually get 90+ in it, however this year, im actually doing bad at it&#8230; I planned to redo so that i can get a higher average. I then heard a rumor that none of the UofT campuses look at retaken courses&#8230; discouraged i tried googling this rumor for about a week with no avail. However i did stumble upon this site which has relieved alot of other stresses but not the main one. I was hoping you could help me and anyone else in my situation by answering these questions: a) Do the UofT campuses consider at retaken courses? b) Would it be better to retake a course in second semester night school or summer school? c) Does UofT even look at anything like UWO&#8217;s Special Consideration Profile?? (my reason for doing poorly during the first half of my first semester) Eagerly(Desperately) waiting for a reply, Me This post reeks of of ?overachiever?? I?m sure there are many people who wished they could get 86 in physics? Sorry to hear about your personal problems though. Hopefully they?re not troubling you anymore. Anyway, the answer to your question is? it depends. What program are you applying to at UofT? If you?re applying to a program within the Faculty of Arts and Science on the St. George campus, then yes ? we do accept repeated courses. However, this might not case for some of the other Faculties or campuses at UofT, such as engineering (not sure if you were considering engineering at UofT, but if that was the reason you wanted to retake your math and physics courses, well, there?s your reason not to do it). Commerce will let you repeat courses, but will need you to give a valid reason. UTSC doesn?t seem to like people repeating courses, though (?the University reserves the right to give preference to students whose marks are the result of a single attempt at each course?). I couldn?t find anything about UTM, but you should really stop using Google as your main source of information. All you?re gonna get is more rumours, and we all know how true those are (oh wait. You?re still in high school, so I guess you wouldn?t know). Go phone or email them instead. You?ll need to get used to doing a lot of phoning and emailing for information after you get into University anyway. Uh, as for whether it?d be better to retake a course in night school or summer school, probably night school. I don?t think Universities even look at the marks you get for the courses you take in summer school after Grade 12. There are for student profiles Commerce and Engineering programs, but not for the Faculty of Arts and Science (again, not sure about UTM and UTSC; it probably depends on the program you apply to). However, don?t forget that even if there is no student profile, you can always write a letter to the admissions people explaining your personal circumstances. You should really get used to doing your best on your first try, though. That?s not to say that you won?t be given a second chance, but you probably won?t be retaking that many courses in University and the pace will be a lot faster than what you?re used to in high school.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,44],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1875","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-grades","category-keeners"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1875","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1875"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1875\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1875"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1875"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1875"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}