{"id":2092,"date":"2010-02-25T14:41:01","date_gmt":"2010-02-25T19:41:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=2092"},"modified":"2016-06-29T12:52:17","modified_gmt":"2016-06-29T16:52:17","slug":"shouldve-stayed-out-of-ib-then","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=2092","title":{"rendered":"should&#8217;ve stayed out of IB then"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hey,<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m hoping you can clarify a query I have. Having been in the IB program has restricted my choices in science to just Biology and Chemistry (both at the Higher Level) however, the more I read about the chemical engineering program at UofT, the more interested I get. As you can deduce, I don&#8217;t have a physics course that is the pre-requisite for engineering. Would I still be able to apply for the engineering program and be considered at a level equal to those who have taken physics? Also, if I&#8217;m doing chemical engineering, will it be possible for me to take electives from social sciences (Anthropology, Psychology etc)?<\/p>\n<p>Looking forward to your reply. Thank you.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Uh&#8230; what kind of school do you go to? Last time I checked, the IB program had physics courses, and I have no idea why a school would offer only two out of the three standard science courses (does your school not offer English or Math too?). Not liking physics isn&#8217;t an excuse for not taking it, you know. Anyway, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.prospective.engineering.utoronto.ca\/admissions\/requirements\/ontario.htm\">here<\/a> are the Engineering Faculty&#8217;s admission requirements for students in the IB program. They require physics, so no, you would not be even considered for admission if you don&#8217;t have that course.<\/p>\n<p>Being in IB is no excuse for not having a physics course. Can&#8217;t you summer school it or something? You really should&#8217;ve researched their admissions requirements more carefully.<\/p>\n<p>Engineers have a set program that they move through (whereas Arts and Science students can design their own program), and one of the main differences between Engineers and the ArtScis are that Engineers have an extremely strict and inflexible program. This is because the engineering degree that you graduate with is a professional degree, which means it has to be approved by the Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board. In engineering, you&#8217;ll have like, 2 full credits of electives at <em>most<\/em> (possibly less). If you are have broad interests and wish to study social science at an in-depth level, ArtSci is a <em>much<\/em> better fit and you can still take enroll in science-y courses such as chemistry or geology. On the other hand, if getting a professional degree is more important to you, then you might feel that ArtSci degree would be <a href=\"http:\/\/scottymiller.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/08\/missed_target1.jpg\">aimless<\/a> and prefer a degree that is more structured.<\/p>\n<p>If you really want to do chem eng., then try talking and working it out with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.prospective.engineering.utoronto.ca\/Contact.htm\">undergraduate admissions office<\/a> at the Faculty of Applied Sciences. They might give you some advice as to what you can do to make up for the physics course &#8211; maybe they&#8217;ll make you summer school it. You poor thing.<\/p>\n<p>If you don&#8217;t end up getting in, it might be a blessing in disguise. Trying engineering without physics will probably kill you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hey, I&#8217;m hoping you can clarify a query I have. Having been in the IB program has restricted my choices in science to just Biology and Chemistry (both at the Higher Level) however, the more I read about the chemical engineering program at UofT, the more interested I get. As you can deduce, I don&#8217;t have a physics course that is the pre-requisite for engineering. Would I still be able to apply for the engineering program and be considered at a level equal to those who have taken physics? Also, if I&#8217;m doing chemical engineering, will it be possible for me to take electives from social sciences (Anthropology, Psychology etc)? Looking forward to your reply. Thank you. \u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014 Uh&#8230; what kind of school do you go to? Last time I checked, the IB program had physics courses, and I have no idea why a school would offer only two out of the three standard science courses (does your school not offer English or Math too?). Not liking physics isn&#8217;t an excuse for not taking it, you know. Anyway, here are the Engineering Faculty&#8217;s admission requirements for students in the IB program. They require physics, so no, you would not be even considered for admission if you don&#8217;t have that course. Being in IB is no excuse for not having a physics course. Can&#8217;t you summer school it or something? You really should&#8217;ve researched their admissions requirements more carefully. Engineers have a set program that they move through (whereas Arts and Science students can design their own program), and one of the main differences between Engineers and the ArtScis are that Engineers have an extremely strict and inflexible program. This is because the engineering degree that you graduate with is a professional degree, which means it has to be approved by the Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board. In engineering, you&#8217;ll have like, 2 full credits of electives at most (possibly less). If you are have broad interests and wish to study social science at an in-depth level, ArtSci is a much better fit and you can still take enroll in science-y courses such as chemistry or geology. On the other hand, if getting a professional degree is more important to you, then you might feel that ArtSci degree would be aimless and prefer a degree that is more structured. If you really want to do chem eng., then try talking and working it out with the undergraduate admissions office at the Faculty of Applied Sciences. They might give you some advice as to what you can do to make up for the physics course &#8211; maybe they&#8217;ll make you summer school it. You poor thing. If you don&#8217;t end up getting in, it might be a blessing in disguise. Trying engineering without physics will probably kill you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,142],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2092","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-engineering","category-ib"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2092","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2092"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2092\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2092"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2092"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2092"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}