{"id":29287,"date":"2025-11-07T13:32:40","date_gmt":"2025-11-07T18:32:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29287"},"modified":"2025-11-07T13:32:40","modified_gmt":"2025-11-07T18:32:40","slug":"the-art-of-being-a-science","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29287","title":{"rendered":"the art of being a science"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">hi! i\u2019m a grade 12 student who\u2019s just applied to UTSG social sciences. I\u2019m interested in psych research as a career but more on the arts side. i know that psych is only offered as a life science and is really science heavy at u of t, but i read on their website that social sciences and humanities students can also declare a psych major if they have the pre reqs to do so.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">so i\u2019m wondering, exactly how much wiggle room would i have with customising my courses? im kind of worried about having to take a lot of hardcore science courses. its really not my vibe.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">also, would i have to double major? because they don\u2019t offer a ba in psychology do they?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">ughhhhh help pls<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">heyyo,<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">i&#8217;m super excited to answer this one because it\u2019s something i already knew a bit about!! in bygone days i was also considering psychology, and as a not very sciency person myself, was a bit disheartened to see that uoft only offered a science degree for psych.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"giphy-gif-img giphy-img-loaded\" src=\"https:\/\/media1.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZXFjbHF6cnBveDdsaWxjdmJ1Y2F0aHhoOGd5aDFmcmh5NXVlaW8weSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n\/oXB0K4oFw3fck\/200.gif\" alt=\"sad george michael bluth GIF\" width=\"282\" height=\"215\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">you are correct that <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/artsci.calendar.utoronto.ca\/section\/Psychology\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">utsg only offers psychology as a science program<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">. HOWEVER, the fact that you applied to the social science admission category <\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">does not <\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">mean that you can\u2019t do a psychology program. within arts and science, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/sidneysmithcommons.artsci.utoronto.ca\/how-do-i-choose-my-first-year-courses\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">your admission category doesn\u2019t restrict you when it comes to which classes<\/span><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.artsci.utoronto.ca\/future\/ready-apply\/admission-categories\/social-sciences#admission-requirements-accordion-1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">and programs you can take.<\/span><\/a><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">the only thing you\u2019d have to watch out for is the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/artsci.calendar.utoronto.ca\/section\/Psychology\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">prerequisites for the program<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">. i\u2019m gonna assume here that you\u2019re an ontario student. for the psych major, you have to have a passing grade in grade 12 calculus and vectors and grade 12 biology.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">now as for how sciency the program <\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">actually <\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"none\">is&#8230; well, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/artsci.calendar.utoronto.ca\/section\/Psychology\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">let\u2019s take a look at the required courses<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">. the only one that jumps out at me as truly math or science-based is <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/artsci.calendar.utoronto.ca\/course\/psy201h1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">statistics I<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">now, you COULD double major, or you couldn\u2019t. see, the way programs work at uoft is a little wacky. if you wanna do psych, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/future.utoronto.ca\/build-your-degree\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">your options would essentially be<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">:<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-leveltext=\"?\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"15\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;?&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">A psych major and another major<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-leveltext=\"?\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"15\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;?&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Another major, another minor, and a psych minor<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-leveltext=\"?\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"15\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;?&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" data-aria-posinset=\"3\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">A psych specialist<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">if you only wanna do psych, you\u2019d do the specialist, which is basically a super-major geared towards people that wanna pursue research or grad school. <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/artsci.calendar.utoronto.ca\/section\/Psychology\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">it also requires more credits&#8230; including another stats course and research courses<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.\u00a0if you do a psych major and a major in an arts field, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/artsci.calendar.utoronto.ca\/hbahbsc-requirements#program-requirements#:~:text=For%20program%20combinations,the%2012.0%20different%20credits\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">you could choose whether you want an arts or science degree at graduation<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">. pretty cool. or if you only do the psych minor, your degree would be in either arts or science depending on your major.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">wooooooow that\u2019s a lot of info.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">bear with me for a little longer, dear reader.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"giphy-gif-img giphy-img-loaded\" src=\"https:\/\/media1.giphy.com\/media\/12DgIEUjzDKLIY\/200.gif?cid=790b76110351bf2b56beb64ab172b1c7d6edd81b16a914e5&amp;ep=v1_user_favorites&amp;rid=200.gif&amp;ct=g\" alt=\"bear sliding GIF\" width=\"266\" height=\"192\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">you could also look into UofT\u2019s other campuses in Mississauga (UTM) or Scarborough (UTSC). both of them also have psych programs. <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/utm.calendar.utoronto.ca\/section\/Psychology\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">UTM\u2019s major<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> has some sciencey sounding courses, but unlike UTSG I don\u2019t see any required math courses. for some reason UTSC has a crazy amount of psych programs (<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/utsc.calendar.utoronto.ca\/section\/Psychology\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">like. just look at this<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">). i can\u2019t summarize all of them without making this post a trillion words long, but from what i can see there\u2019s some lab and data analysis courses involved.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">all of this to say&#8230; you\u2019ll\u00a0have your first year to think about things. if you\u2019re still interested in psych, 100% take <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/artsci.calendar.utoronto.ca\/course\/psy100h1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">PSY100<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> since it\u2019ll give you a sample of what the subject is like (and it\u2019s a prerequisite for psych programs). take classes in other areas you might be interested in, and see where the year takes you. explore!<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"giphy-gif-img giphy-img-loaded\" src=\"https:\/\/media4.giphy.com\/media\/l0IsIC9ZNOELYmuqc\/200.gif?cid=790b76110351bf2b56beb64ab172b1c7d6edd81b16a914e5&amp;ep=v1_user_favorites&amp;rid=200.gif&amp;ct=g\" alt=\" \" width=\"273\" height=\"195\" \/><\/p>\n<p>be like dora.<\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">i hope the boatload of info i just dropped on you makes sense, and not like the ramblings of an incoherent person who happens to know a concerning amount about how psych programs at uoft work. i promise i&#8217;m normal.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">promise.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"giphy-gif-img giphy-img-loaded\" src=\"https:\/\/media0.giphy.com\/media\/BbJdwrOsM7nTa\/200.gif?cid=790b76110351bf2b56beb64ab172b1c7d6edd81b16a914e5&amp;ep=v1_user_favorites&amp;rid=200.gif&amp;ct=g\" alt=\"Celebrity gif. Willem DaFoe sitting in a car, with confused eyes and a huge, unnerving grin.\" width=\"272\" height=\"232\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">best of luck with applications and your first year!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">cheers,<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">aska<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>hi! i\u2019m a grade 12 student who\u2019s just applied to UTSG social sciences. I\u2019m interested in psych research as a career but more on the arts side. i know that psych is only offered as a life science and is really science heavy at u of t, but i read on their website that social sciences and humanities students can also declare a psych major if they have the pre reqs to do so.\u00a0\u00a0 so i\u2019m wondering, exactly how much wiggle room would i have with customising my courses? im kind of worried about having to take a lot of hardcore science courses. its really not my vibe.\u00a0\u00a0 also, would i have to double major? because they don\u2019t offer a ba in psychology do they?\u00a0 ughhhhh help pls\u00a0 heyyo,\u00a0 i&#8217;m super excited to answer this one because it\u2019s something i already knew a bit about!! in bygone days i was also considering psychology, and as a not very sciency person myself, was a bit disheartened to see that uoft only offered a science degree for psych.\u00a0 you are correct that utsg only offers psychology as a science program. HOWEVER, the fact that you applied to the social science admission category does not mean that you can\u2019t do a psychology program. within arts and science, your admission category doesn\u2019t restrict you when it comes to which classes and programs you can take.\u00a0 the only thing you\u2019d have to watch out for is the prerequisites for the program. i\u2019m gonna assume here that you\u2019re an ontario student. for the psych major, you have to have a passing grade in grade 12 calculus and vectors and grade 12 biology.\u00a0\u00a0 now as for how sciency the program actually is&#8230; well, let\u2019s take a look at the required courses. the only one that jumps out at me as truly math or science-based is statistics I. now, you COULD double major, or you couldn\u2019t. see, the way programs work at uoft is a little wacky. if you wanna do psych, your options would essentially be:\u00a0 A psych major and another major\u00a0 Another major, another minor, and a psych minor\u00a0 A psych specialist\u00a0 if you only wanna do psych, you\u2019d do the specialist, which is basically a super-major geared towards people that wanna pursue research or grad school. it also requires more credits&#8230; including another stats course and research courses.\u00a0if you do a psych major and a major in an arts field, you could choose whether you want an arts or science degree at graduation. pretty cool. or if you only do the psych minor, your degree would be in either arts or science depending on your major.\u00a0 wooooooow that\u2019s a lot of info.\u00a0\u00a0 bear with me for a little longer, dear reader.\u00a0 you could also look into UofT\u2019s other campuses in Mississauga (UTM) or Scarborough (UTSC). both of them also have psych programs. UTM\u2019s major has some sciencey sounding courses, but unlike UTSG I don\u2019t see any required math courses. for some reason UTSC has a crazy amount of psych programs (like. just look at this). i can\u2019t summarize all of them without making this post a trillion words long, but from what i can see there\u2019s some lab and data analysis courses involved.\u00a0 all of this to say&#8230; you\u2019ll\u00a0have your first year to think about things. if you\u2019re still interested in psych, 100% take PSY100 since it\u2019ll give you a sample of what the subject is like (and it\u2019s a prerequisite for psych programs). take classes in other areas you might be interested in, and see where the year takes you. explore!\u00a0 be like dora. i hope the boatload of info i just dropped on you makes sense, and not like the ramblings of an incoherent person who happens to know a concerning amount about how psych programs at uoft work. i promise i&#8217;m normal.\u00a0 promise.\u00a0 best of luck with applications and your first year! cheers,\u00a0 aska\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,258,63],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29287","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-arts-sciences","category-programs","category-psychology"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29287","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=29287"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29287\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=29287"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=29287"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=29287"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}