{"id":29370,"date":"2026-01-14T19:05:28","date_gmt":"2026-01-15T00:05:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29370"},"modified":"2026-01-14T19:05:28","modified_gmt":"2026-01-15T00:05:28","slug":"theres-two-of-them","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29370","title":{"rendered":"there&#8217;s two of them?!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW16592333 BCX0\">hello<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW16592333 BCX0\">!\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW16592333 BCX0\">I&#8217;m<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW16592333 BCX0\">\u00a0a grade 10 student who wants to attend either campus (<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW16592333 BCX0\">UofT<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW16592333 BCX0\">\u00a0or UTSC) to study biochemistry.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW16592333 BCX0\">I&#8217;m a pretty average student (70s-80s) but am trying to improve and want to know if doing SHSM, Co-Op and passion projects actually make a difference in my chance of being accepted?<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW16592333 BCX0\">\u00a0Thank you!<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">heyyo,<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">soooo\u00a0i\u00a0fear you may have a doppelganger, because\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29359\">literally the\u00a0last ask\u00a0i\u00a0got<\/a> was ANOTHER grade 10 wanting to go to\u00a0utsg\u00a0or\u00a0utsc\u00a0for life\u00a0sciencey\u00a0stuff,\u00a0getting grades in the 80s,\u00a0and wondering about\u00a0ecs.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">am i in groundhog day? are you the same person?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/media1.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZGhlanVmdzJ4aXBrbTZpd2pmcjN0ZjV1d3AxczYzNnY2YW9zcTZmbSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw\/l36kU80xPf0ojG0Erg\/giphy.gif\" width=\"335\" height=\"187\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">hey, i thought i&#8217;m the one who\u2019s supposed to answer questions, not ask them&#8230;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">well\u00a0i\u00a0guess it\u00a0doesn\u2019t\u00a0matter if\u00a0you\u2019re\u00a0the last person\u2019s doppelganger or were, like, twins in your past life,\u00a0because as\u00a0aska\u00a0it is of course my obligation to answer your question&#8230;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29359\">you may also\u00a0wanna\u00a0check out my answer to your doppelganger\u2019s question, though<\/a>.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">the rundown of that post is that\u00a0ecs\u00a0basically don\u2019t\u00a0matter for admission into either\u00a0utsc\u00a0or\u00a0utsg\u00a0(downtown campus, what\u00a0im\u00a0assuming you mean by\u00a0uoft).\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.artsci.utoronto.ca\/future\/ready-apply\/admission-categories\/life-sciences#admission-requirements-accordion-3\">utsg\u00a0life sci is looking for high 80s average<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ouinfo.ca\/programs\/toronto-scarborough\/tsl\">utsc\u00a0is mid-high 70s<\/a>.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">as for\u00a0shsm\u00a0and co-op, as with\u00a0ecs, <a href=\"https:\/\/future.utoronto.ca\/requirements-canadian-high-schools\">neither of them matter<\/a>.\u00a0one thing to keep in mind though is that the co-op\u00a0portion\u00a0of courses are not considered for admissions (aka it\u00a0won\u2019t\u00a0hurt you to take them, but those grades\u00a0aren\u2019t\u00a0factored in).\u00a0so\u00a0make sure you have 6 other grade 12 courses besides your co-op if you take it<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">however if you\u2019re interested in either of them i&#8217;d say go for it! while they may not make a difference for admissions, they could be super valuable for a) helping you figure out if you\u2019re interested in a field and b) for securing volunteer\/work positions in the future. you never know what doors that might open up!<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/media2.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExa3gwZ2locjFjZ3F6YnV5NjdpbjQ3czZoM2c1MXNiY3QzMjEwNGluaSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw\/12S8HFVksHAg92\/giphy.gif\" width=\"295\" height=\"242\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">hope\u00a0that helped, my doppelganger\u00a0friend!!<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">cheers,<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">aska<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>hello!\u00a0I&#8217;m\u00a0a grade 10 student who wants to attend either campus (UofT\u00a0or UTSC) to study biochemistry.\u00a0I&#8217;m a pretty average student (70s-80s) but am trying to improve and want to know if doing SHSM, Co-Op and passion projects actually make a difference in my chance of being accepted?\u00a0Thank you! heyyo,\u00a0 soooo\u00a0i\u00a0fear you may have a doppelganger, because\u00a0literally the\u00a0last ask\u00a0i\u00a0got was ANOTHER grade 10 wanting to go to\u00a0utsg\u00a0or\u00a0utsc\u00a0for life\u00a0sciencey\u00a0stuff,\u00a0getting grades in the 80s,\u00a0and wondering about\u00a0ecs.\u00a0 am i in groundhog day? are you the same person?\u00a0 hey, i thought i&#8217;m the one who\u2019s supposed to answer questions, not ask them&#8230;\u00a0 well\u00a0i\u00a0guess it\u00a0doesn\u2019t\u00a0matter if\u00a0you\u2019re\u00a0the last person\u2019s doppelganger or were, like, twins in your past life,\u00a0because as\u00a0aska\u00a0it is of course my obligation to answer your question&#8230;\u00a0you may also\u00a0wanna\u00a0check out my answer to your doppelganger\u2019s question, though.\u00a0 the rundown of that post is that\u00a0ecs\u00a0basically don\u2019t\u00a0matter for admission into either\u00a0utsc\u00a0or\u00a0utsg\u00a0(downtown campus, what\u00a0im\u00a0assuming you mean by\u00a0uoft).\u00a0utsg\u00a0life sci is looking for high 80s average,\u00a0utsc\u00a0is mid-high 70s.\u00a0 as for\u00a0shsm\u00a0and co-op, as with\u00a0ecs, neither of them matter.\u00a0one thing to keep in mind though is that the co-op\u00a0portion\u00a0of courses are not considered for admissions (aka it\u00a0won\u2019t\u00a0hurt you to take them, but those grades\u00a0aren\u2019t\u00a0factored in).\u00a0so\u00a0make sure you have 6 other grade 12 courses besides your co-op if you take it\u00a0 however if you\u2019re interested in either of them i&#8217;d say go for it! while they may not make a difference for admissions, they could be super valuable for a) helping you figure out if you\u2019re interested in a field and b) for securing volunteer\/work positions in the future. you never know what doors that might open up!\u00a0 hope\u00a0that helped, my doppelganger\u00a0friend!!\u00a0 cheers,\u00a0 aska\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,11,245,110,120],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29370","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-admissions","category-arts-sciences","category-getting-into-u-of-t","category-life-science","category-utsc"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29370","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=29370"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29370\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=29370"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=29370"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=29370"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}