{"id":29397,"date":"2026-02-24T18:15:58","date_gmt":"2026-02-24T23:15:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29397"},"modified":"2026-02-24T18:15:58","modified_gmt":"2026-02-24T23:15:58","slug":"admissions-and-averages-and-prereqs-oh-my","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29397","title":{"rendered":"admissions and averages and prereqs oh my"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"TextRun SCXW140202486 BCX0\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW140202486 BCX0\">Hi! I am a grade 12 student who has applied for <\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW140202486 BCX0\">lifescience<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW140202486 BCX0\">\u00a0at all 3 campuses. I am scared that my final chemistry grade will end\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW140202486 BCX0\">up<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW140202486 BCX0\">\u00a0low 70s. I will be able to get my admission average to mid to high 80s but should\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW140202486 BCX0\">i<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW140202486 BCX0\"> be worried like I am scared that they will reject me for having a low grade in a science.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">Hi!\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">I&#8217;m<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">\u00a0currently a grade 11 student in an Ontario high school, and I just\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW219332399 BCX0\">recieved<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">\u00a0my final marks for semester 1. They range around 70-89, which I was really\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW219332399 BCX0\">bumbed<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">\u00a0about. There were many\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">ups and downs<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">\u00a0this semester.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">I&#8217;ve<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">\u00a0heard that grade 11 marks matter for\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW219332399 BCX0\">university, and<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">\u00a0will look at my grades.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">I&#8217;ve<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">\u00a0always been curious to\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW219332399 BCX0\">appy<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">\u00a0to\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW219332399 BCX0\">uoft<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">,\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW219332399 BCX0\">espcially<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">\u00a0social sciences. Do I still have a chance of getting in, to\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW219332399 BCX0\">uoft<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW219332399 BCX0\">\u00a0or any other social science program, if I do well next semester or in gr12? Thanks!<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">heyyo,<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/media4.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExa2piYXFyaWJseDdpb201b2Jrbng3Z3RmZXRzNXB2NGp3MXIzaHNhaCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw\/L2UG7T2DZDra6TPcvV\/giphy.gif\" width=\"415\" height=\"280\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">i&#8217;ve decided to answer both of your questions in the same post because, guys, have you seen how many admissions questions i&#8217;ve gotten lately? i <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?page_id=2553\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">even\u00a0added\u00a0a new section to the\u00a0faq\u00a0page for\u00a0you guys<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.\u00a0now\u00a0<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">of course<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0i\u00a0love getting your\u00a0questions\u00a0but it might save YOU some time to check out that\u00a0faq.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">ok with that out of the way,\u00a0i&#8217;m\u00a0gonna\u00a0do a bit of an infodump.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><i>low\u00a0chem\u00a0grade?<\/i><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i.redd.it\/t64r0ojslhv81.png\" alt=\"Megamind &quot;No Bitches?&quot; meme [3264x3264] : r\/MemeRestoration\" width=\"361\" height=\"361\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">at\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.utsc.utoronto.ca\/admissions\/explore-programs?f%5B0%5D=area_of_study%3Ahealth_and_life_sciences\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">utsc<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0and\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ouinfo.ca\/programs\/toronto-mississauga\/tml\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">utm<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0life sci admissions are\u00a0generally high\u00a070s and low\u00a0to mid\u00a080s,\u00a0respectively, but\u00a0as you mentioned, yes,\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.artsci.utoronto.ca\/future\/ready-apply\/admission-categories\/life-sciences#admission-requirements-accordion-3\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">the admission average\u00a0for life sci\u00a0at utsg\u00a0is mid-high 80s.\u00a0<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">however chem is NOT a required course for the admission stream.\u00a0this means\u00a0that if\u00a0it\u2019s\u00a0your lowest\u00a0mark\u00a0(or\u00a0second-lowest, if\u00a0you\u2019re\u00a0taking 8 grade 12 courses), it\u00a0won\u2019t\u00a0be included\u00a0in your top 6 average that\u00a0uoft\u00a0looks at.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">now you may ask,\u00a0aska, how is chem not\u00a0required\u00a0for life sci?\u00a0and the answer is&#8230;\u00a0well, it depends.\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.artsci.utoronto.ca\/future\/ready-apply\/admission-categories\/life-sciences#life-sciences-accordion-1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">some\u00a0upper-year\u00a0programs of study\u00a0do require you to have taken high school chem to enroll<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, but they\u00a0don\u2019t\u00a0require you to have gotten a specific grade in the class, just that you passed it.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><i>wait\u00a0wait\u00a0wait, so does grade 11\u00a0reallllly\u00a0matter?<\/i>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">worry not my friend, while\u00a0uoft\u00a0DOES look at grade 11 marks, what you get in grade 12 will matter more. 70-89 is a pretty wide range and since the admission average\u00a0for soc sci at\u00a0uoft\u2019s\u00a0main campus is\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.artsci.utoronto.ca\/future\/ready-apply\/admission-categories\/social-sciences#admission-requirements-accordion-3\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">mid-high 80s<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, you\u2019re probably already in a good spot! i also have to mention that uoft has two other campuses: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.utsc.utoronto.ca\/admissions\/explore-programs?f%5B0%5D=area_of_study%3Asocial_sciences&amp;page=0\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">utsc (located in scarborough) recommends around mid 70s for soc sci programs<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, and\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.utm.utoronto.ca\/future-students\/admissions\/admission-decisions\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">utm\u00a0(in\u00a0mississauga)\u00a0asks for an overall average of 75 and min 70 in english.<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> totally apply to all three! and yes, I&#8217;m a bit traitorous for this, but&#8230; you should definitely have a shot at soc sci programs at other unis too.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media4.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbWV3bm5neDR2cnM5Z3RzYjFrYWk1c3hkZmswZWszbXA1b2t1bWRsdSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw\/xTiIzuqnBznAiMPvws\/giphy.gif\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>(i know, i know&#8230;)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">hope\u00a0this helped both of you!\u00a0for any other\u00a0future\u00a0uoft\u00a0hopefuls reading this please go check out the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?page_id=2553\">faq\u00a0section<\/a>, you may have your question answered without having to wait for your dear old\u00a0aska\u00a0to respond.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">cheers,<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">aska<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi! I am a grade 12 student who has applied for lifescience\u00a0at all 3 campuses. I am scared that my final chemistry grade will end\u00a0up\u00a0low 70s. I will be able to get my admission average to mid to high 80s but should\u00a0i be worried like I am scared that they will reject me for having a low grade in a science. Hi!\u00a0I&#8217;m\u00a0currently a grade 11 student in an Ontario high school, and I just\u00a0recieved\u00a0my final marks for semester 1. They range around 70-89, which I was really\u00a0bumbed\u00a0about. There were many\u00a0ups and downs\u00a0this semester.\u00a0I&#8217;ve\u00a0heard that grade 11 marks matter for\u00a0university, and\u00a0will look at my grades.\u00a0I&#8217;ve\u00a0always been curious to\u00a0appy\u00a0to\u00a0uoft,\u00a0espcially\u00a0social sciences. Do I still have a chance of getting in, to\u00a0uoft\u00a0or any other social science program, if I do well next semester or in gr12? Thanks! heyyo,\u00a0 i&#8217;ve decided to answer both of your questions in the same post because, guys, have you seen how many admissions questions i&#8217;ve gotten lately? i even\u00a0added\u00a0a new section to the\u00a0faq\u00a0page for\u00a0you guys.\u00a0now\u00a0of course\u00a0i\u00a0love getting your\u00a0questions\u00a0but it might save YOU some time to check out that\u00a0faq.\u00a0\u00a0 ok with that out of the way,\u00a0i&#8217;m\u00a0gonna\u00a0do a bit of an infodump.\u00a0\u00a0 low\u00a0chem\u00a0grade? at\u00a0utsc\u00a0and\u00a0utm\u00a0life sci admissions are\u00a0generally high\u00a070s and low\u00a0to mid\u00a080s,\u00a0respectively, but\u00a0as you mentioned, yes,\u00a0the admission average\u00a0for life sci\u00a0at utsg\u00a0is mid-high 80s.\u00a0however chem is NOT a required course for the admission stream.\u00a0this means\u00a0that if\u00a0it\u2019s\u00a0your lowest\u00a0mark\u00a0(or\u00a0second-lowest, if\u00a0you\u2019re\u00a0taking 8 grade 12 courses), it\u00a0won\u2019t\u00a0be included\u00a0in your top 6 average that\u00a0uoft\u00a0looks at.\u00a0 now you may ask,\u00a0aska, how is chem not\u00a0required\u00a0for life sci?\u00a0and the answer is&#8230;\u00a0well, it depends.\u00a0some\u00a0upper-year\u00a0programs of study\u00a0do require you to have taken high school chem to enroll, but they\u00a0don\u2019t\u00a0require you to have gotten a specific grade in the class, just that you passed it.\u00a0 wait\u00a0wait\u00a0wait, so does grade 11\u00a0reallllly\u00a0matter?\u00a0 worry not my friend, while\u00a0uoft\u00a0DOES look at grade 11 marks, what you get in grade 12 will matter more. 70-89 is a pretty wide range and since the admission average\u00a0for soc sci at\u00a0uoft\u2019s\u00a0main campus is\u00a0mid-high 80s, you\u2019re probably already in a good spot! i also have to mention that uoft has two other campuses: utsc (located in scarborough) recommends around mid 70s for soc sci programs, and\u00a0utm\u00a0(in\u00a0mississauga)\u00a0asks for an overall average of 75 and min 70 in english. totally apply to all three! and yes, I&#8217;m a bit traitorous for this, but&#8230; you should definitely have a shot at soc sci programs at other unis too.\u00a0 (i know, i know&#8230;) hope\u00a0this helped both of you!\u00a0for any other\u00a0future\u00a0uoft\u00a0hopefuls reading this please go check out the\u00a0faq\u00a0section, you may have your question answered without having to wait for your dear old\u00a0aska\u00a0to respond.\u00a0 cheers,\u00a0 aska\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,246,250,110,215],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29397","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-admissions","category-applying-for-u-of-t","category-averages","category-life-science","category-social-sciences"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29397","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=29397"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29397\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=29397"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=29397"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=29397"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}