{"id":29484,"date":"2026-05-10T22:23:07","date_gmt":"2026-05-11T02:23:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29484"},"modified":"2026-05-10T22:23:07","modified_gmt":"2026-05-11T02:23:07","slug":"info-from-a-not-so-secret-resource","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29484","title":{"rendered":"info from a not-so-secret resource"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">What is the competitive avg to get into life sci (health sci stream) at\u00a0utsc? Do they care if I take courses in summer school and night school? Will\u00a0I acc\u00a0get in?? ???<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Hi\u00a0aska!\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">I was wondering if\u00a0uoft\u00a0can reject you based on grade\u00a011 grades? Or if you\u00a0don\u2019t\u00a0get in through early\u00a0admissions\u00a0can you reapply w\/ grade 12 grades? And do they only care about grade\u00a012 grades?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">heyyo,<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">soooo I&#8217;ve decided to do a dual post with this one because 1) i think it\u2019d be useful for each of you to see the other answer, and 2) GUYS SO MANY ADMISSIONS QUESTIONS! Which isn\u2019t a bad thing, btw. you give me purpose (because, as you all know, aska only activates when a question comes in. you admissions folks are keeping me from hibernating).<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/media0.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdXpodnFwdzh2YXFveGlzaWkyNmw3cW5wYm56amh6bjI2MXA5M2oyZSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw\/b6iVj3IM54Abm\/giphy.gif\" width=\"453\" height=\"341\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\"><em><strong>to my hopeful future\u00a0scarborough\u00a0dweller:<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.artsci.utoronto.ca\/future\/ready-apply\/admission-requirements#prerequisite-courses-accordion-4\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">nope, uoft doesn\u2019t care about summer school.<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ouinfo.ca\/programs\/toronto-scarborough\/txd\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">and\u00a0utsc health sci stream is looking for a mid-70s average, or high 70s for co-op<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.\u00a0i\u00a0found this information from a very secret source.\u00a0oh wait, it was actually just\u00a0ontario\u00a0universities\u2019 info, which you can check yourself anytime to\u00a0search for\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ouinfo.ca\/programs\/all\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">the admissions average\/requirements of literally every program<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0at, you guessed it, every\u00a0ontario\u00a0university.\u00a0actually insane.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">as for whether you\u2019ll actually get in, well, i&#8217;m just your (not) humble aska, not an admissions officer. so while i can tell you that taking all the required prereq courses (english, chem, bio, any uni math course) and having your top six average in the admissions range would give you a great shot, i can\u2019t tell you for sure. forgive me.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/media3.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExcGd6anI4NGNmY3JmcG90NXN0a2g5dWM4eWhsNXN4eG9uOWtiZTZkNyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw\/RWUqVYucDBD4A\/giphy.gif\" width=\"447\" height=\"292\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\"><em><strong>now for my early admissions-concerned future applicant:<\/strong><\/em> i think there\u2019s a few things i gotta clear up.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">i have a feeling that reddit may have you in a tizzy over \u201cearly admissions.\u201d because the truth is there really aren\u2019t any early admissions at uoft. the way things work is that EVERYONE applies in the fall of the year before you wanna start uni (in grade 12, for ontario). while yes, there is an \u201cearly application date\u201d on the website, that date only exists if you want to be admitted in the first round of admissions, in february.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">however there isn\u2019t any reapplication that happens. you submit one application, in the fall. i&#8217;m no expert in how things work internationally, but i know that in ontario, your grades are automatically uploaded as they come out. so when the decisions are made, uoft will have access to all of your grade 11 grades and every midterm\/final grade you\u2019ve gotten so far in grade 12. so thankfully, you only gotta worry about applying once. and then you can relax! well, when you\u2019re not dealing with the calamity of twelfth grade.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/media3.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNW9hYndqZHFpempzbnJkaDZqbzcxMmRyd2dqejc2NzNubThoY2ZvdSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw\/fhAwk4DnqNgw8\/giphy.gif\" width=\"399\" height=\"215\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">you&#8217;re also far from the first one to ask about grade 11 grades mattering. the short answer: yes, but maybe not as much as you think. unis will have access to grade 11 marks and will consider them, but since grade 12 is more recent and shows your overall trajectory, the latter will be more important.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">anyways that was my long-winded answer to you guys. i do have a final piece of good news for you though: you two (along with the MANY recent future\/current applicants who\u2019ve reached out in the last several months) have inspired me to make an applicant\/new student guide. so stay tuned for that soon!<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">cheers,<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">aska<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What is the competitive avg to get into life sci (health sci stream) at\u00a0utsc? Do they care if I take courses in summer school and night school? Will\u00a0I acc\u00a0get in?? ???\u00a0 Hi\u00a0aska!\u00a0\u00a0 I was wondering if\u00a0uoft\u00a0can reject you based on grade\u00a011 grades? Or if you\u00a0don\u2019t\u00a0get in through early\u00a0admissions\u00a0can you reapply w\/ grade 12 grades? And do they only care about grade\u00a012 grades?\u00a0 heyyo,\u00a0 soooo I&#8217;ve decided to do a dual post with this one because 1) i think it\u2019d be useful for each of you to see the other answer, and 2) GUYS SO MANY ADMISSIONS QUESTIONS! Which isn\u2019t a bad thing, btw. you give me purpose (because, as you all know, aska only activates when a question comes in. you admissions folks are keeping me from hibernating).\u00a0 to my hopeful future\u00a0scarborough\u00a0dweller:\u00a0nope, uoft doesn\u2019t care about summer school.\u00a0and\u00a0utsc health sci stream is looking for a mid-70s average, or high 70s for co-op.\u00a0i\u00a0found this information from a very secret source.\u00a0oh wait, it was actually just\u00a0ontario\u00a0universities\u2019 info, which you can check yourself anytime to\u00a0search for\u00a0the admissions average\/requirements of literally every program\u00a0at, you guessed it, every\u00a0ontario\u00a0university.\u00a0actually insane.\u00a0 as for whether you\u2019ll actually get in, well, i&#8217;m just your (not) humble aska, not an admissions officer. so while i can tell you that taking all the required prereq courses (english, chem, bio, any uni math course) and having your top six average in the admissions range would give you a great shot, i can\u2019t tell you for sure. forgive me.\u00a0 now for my early admissions-concerned future applicant: i think there\u2019s a few things i gotta clear up.\u00a0 i have a feeling that reddit may have you in a tizzy over \u201cearly admissions.\u201d because the truth is there really aren\u2019t any early admissions at uoft. the way things work is that EVERYONE applies in the fall of the year before you wanna start uni (in grade 12, for ontario). while yes, there is an \u201cearly application date\u201d on the website, that date only exists if you want to be admitted in the first round of admissions, in february.\u00a0 however there isn\u2019t any reapplication that happens. you submit one application, in the fall. i&#8217;m no expert in how things work internationally, but i know that in ontario, your grades are automatically uploaded as they come out. so when the decisions are made, uoft will have access to all of your grade 11 grades and every midterm\/final grade you\u2019ve gotten so far in grade 12. so thankfully, you only gotta worry about applying once. and then you can relax! well, when you\u2019re not dealing with the calamity of twelfth grade.\u00a0 you&#8217;re also far from the first one to ask about grade 11 grades mattering. the short answer: yes, but maybe not as much as you think. unis will have access to grade 11 marks and will consider them, but since grade 12 is more recent and shows your overall trajectory, the latter will be more important.\u00a0 anyways that was my long-winded answer to you guys. i do have a final piece of good news for you though: you two (along with the MANY recent future\/current applicants who\u2019ve reached out in the last several months) have inspired me to make an applicant\/new student guide. so stay tuned for that soon!\u00a0 cheers,\u00a0 aska\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,246,120],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29484","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-admissions","category-applying-for-u-of-t","category-utsc"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29484","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=29484"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29484\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29485,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29484\/revisions\/29485"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=29484"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=29484"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=29484"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}