{"id":29523,"date":"2026-06-09T20:43:22","date_gmt":"2026-06-10T00:43:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29523"},"modified":"2026-06-09T20:43:22","modified_gmt":"2026-06-10T00:43:22","slug":"what-in-the-psychic-connection","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/askastudent.utoronto.ca\/?p=29523","title":{"rendered":"what in the psychic connection?!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Hi,\u00a0I&#8217;m\u00a0a grade 11 student in\u00a0ontario\u00a0and\u00a0I&#8217;m\u00a0taking advanced functions and\u00a0I&#8217;ll\u00a0get\u00a0roughly an\u00a089 or 90 if I do\u00a0really good\u00a0on the final. The thing is, my school\u00a0doesnt\u00a0offer calculus so\u00a0I&#8217;ll\u00a0have to apply with my AF grade unless\u00a0i\u00a0take it in\u00a0nightschool\u00a0the first semester of next year.\u00a0\u00a0So how are my chances of getting into\u00a0rotman\u00a0(finance and economics) and if\u00a0theyre\u00a0not good, should\u00a0i\u00a0take calculus in night school to get a better grade and apply with that? if not, what can I do to improve my chances<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Hi, I want to apply to\u00a0rotman\u00a0finance and economics but\u00a0i\u00a0have an 88 in advanced functions and a 95 in\u00a0english, my school\u00a0doesnt\u00a0offer calculus first semester so I&#8217;ll have to apply with my AF grade unless\u00a0i\u00a0take it in\u00a0nightschool\u00a0so how good are my chances, and if\u00a0theyre\u00a0bad should\u00a0i\u00a0take calculus in night school or work on a strong supplemental application?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">heyyo,<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">sooooo to address the elephant in the room&#8230;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/media0.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExaGgwMnBleXl5ZG8yaHJpeDA5NWdzMXdwbXlqdDlsd2VjaHJ5MzJ0NiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw\/4T189yy4SfUbByZHRu\/giphy.gif\" width=\"355\" height=\"256\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">these two asks are so so SO similar that it\u2019s scaring me a little. the logical side of me assumes you two are bffs who go to the same school and both realized you should consult the very wise askastudent you found on google. but part of me kinda hopes that you go to school in two entirely different cities and had the same idea at basically the same time because you have a crazy psychic connection&#8230;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">ok with that out of the way, to answer your question(s). it&#8217;s definitely not weird for schools to only have calc in second sem, i&#8217;m pretty sure my medium-sized high school did the same thing. i&#8217;d be pretty surprised if your school truly didn\u2019t offer it at all, though. from what i know, every school in ontario has to provide any course that\u2019s required for post-secondary programs. but if not, then yeah, night school\/online school is a valid option. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">however. with that said. i would highly, highly encourage you both to take calc in day school during your second semester of grade 12. that&#8217;s right, aska is getting a little serious with this one.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/media2.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExemloZTYzcW10bHFkNDI4eDlpOWVvMGRnbjVsbWg3azlteWNyejNpZCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw\/fFCWgjJSyY0QE\/giphy.gif\" width=\"383\" height=\"215\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">now this is of course not to say that you\u2019re completely doomed if you don\u2019t follow my advice, but there\u2019s quite a few reasons why i think you should just stick to day school for calc. for one,<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/rotmancommerce.utoronto.ca\/future-students\/ontario-applicants\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0the rotman admissions website says that they encourage students to take courses\u00a0in their day school if possible<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">. while this isn\u2019t an automatic disqualifier and you could probably explain this away IF your school doesn\u2019t offer calc at all for some reason, you might as well avoid doing anything that could potentially hurt your chances.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">another reason is that&#8230; your marks in advanced functions aren\u2019t bad at all. the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/rotmancommerce.utoronto.ca\/future-students\/what-we-look-for\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">rotman website says that mid-high 80s averages are the general range they\u2019re looking for<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">. i know that it can get competitive and you\u2019d prob wanna be a bit higher than that to feel safe, but even THEN, having an 88-90 in one course will not make much of a difference to that average. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">and also, hate to break it to\u00a0ya,\u00a0but calc is\u00a0<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">probably\u00a0<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">gonna be harder than advanced functions. imo, pushing it forward into first sem will only make things a little trickier for you in what will probably already be a stressful time! both of your advanced function marks seem pretty solid to me, so it\u2019s not like you\u2019d need calc to \u201csave\u201d your average anyways. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">so\u00a0what\u00a0i\u00a0think you\u00a0<\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">can\u00a0<\/span><\/i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">do to improve your chances is, as you said, to start prepping for an awe-inspiring supplemental application.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/media2.giphy.com\/media\/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdHk0aGtxemJidWg0Z3k2anhocHkwbnVpNm9iZnZoMnJzYjJ3ZnhyayZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw\/L4Bb7zCaP8FB5C769T\/giphy.gif\" width=\"366\" height=\"206\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">(this will be the admissions officers when they see it,\u00a0fr\u00a0fr)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">the supplemental app\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/rotmancommerce.utoronto.ca\/future-students\/our-supplemental-application\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">will include some timed written and video responses<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, usually about your skills\/interests and community involvement\/extracurriculars. the questions change every year so there\u2019s no way to know for sure what will be asked, but you can work on strengthening your involvement in ecs, volunteering, or a personal project, as well as jotting some points down about why you\u2019re interested in business (and rotman in particular).<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">that&#8217;s all i have for you, you psychically connected duo. i hope my advice landed, and godspeed in calc and your applications!<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">cheers,<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">aska<\/span><span 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The thing is, my school\u00a0doesnt\u00a0offer calculus so\u00a0I&#8217;ll\u00a0have to apply with my AF grade unless\u00a0i\u00a0take it in\u00a0nightschool\u00a0the first semester of next year.\u00a0\u00a0So how are my chances of getting into\u00a0rotman\u00a0(finance and economics) and if\u00a0theyre\u00a0not good, should\u00a0i\u00a0take calculus in night school to get a better grade and apply with that? if not, what can I do to improve my chances\u00a0 Hi, I want to apply to\u00a0rotman\u00a0finance and economics but\u00a0i\u00a0have an 88 in advanced functions and a 95 in\u00a0english, my school\u00a0doesnt\u00a0offer calculus first semester so I&#8217;ll have to apply with my AF grade unless\u00a0i\u00a0take it in\u00a0nightschool\u00a0so how good are my chances, and if\u00a0theyre\u00a0bad should\u00a0i\u00a0take calculus in night school or work on a strong supplemental application?\u00a0 heyyo,\u00a0 sooooo to address the elephant in the room&#8230;\u00a0 these two asks are so so SO similar that it\u2019s scaring me a little. the logical side of me assumes you two are bffs who go to the same school and both realized you should consult the very wise askastudent you found on google. but part of me kinda hopes that you go to school in two entirely different cities and had the same idea at basically the same time because you have a crazy psychic connection&#8230;. ok with that out of the way, to answer your question(s). it&#8217;s definitely not weird for schools to only have calc in second sem, i&#8217;m pretty sure my medium-sized high school did the same thing. i&#8217;d be pretty surprised if your school truly didn\u2019t offer it at all, though. from what i know, every school in ontario has to provide any course that\u2019s required for post-secondary programs. but if not, then yeah, night school\/online school is a valid option. \u00a0 however. with that said. i would highly, highly encourage you both to take calc in day school during your second semester of grade 12. that&#8217;s right, aska is getting a little serious with this one.\u00a0 now this is of course not to say that you\u2019re completely doomed if you don\u2019t follow my advice, but there\u2019s quite a few reasons why i think you should just stick to day school for calc. for one,\u00a0the rotman admissions website says that they encourage students to take courses\u00a0in their day school if possible. while this isn\u2019t an automatic disqualifier and you could probably explain this away IF your school doesn\u2019t offer calc at all for some reason, you might as well avoid doing anything that could potentially hurt your chances.\u00a0 another reason is that&#8230; your marks in advanced functions aren\u2019t bad at all. the rotman website says that mid-high 80s averages are the general range they\u2019re looking for. i know that it can get competitive and you\u2019d prob wanna be a bit higher than that to feel safe, but even THEN, having an 88-90 in one course will not make much of a difference to that average. \u00a0 and also, hate to break it to\u00a0ya,\u00a0but calc is\u00a0probably\u00a0gonna be harder than advanced functions. imo, pushing it forward into first sem will only make things a little trickier for you in what will probably already be a stressful time! both of your advanced function marks seem pretty solid to me, so it\u2019s not like you\u2019d need calc to \u201csave\u201d your average anyways. \u00a0 so\u00a0what\u00a0i\u00a0think you\u00a0can\u00a0do to improve your chances is, as you said, to start prepping for an awe-inspiring supplemental application.\u00a0 (this will be the admissions officers when they see it,\u00a0fr\u00a0fr)\u00a0 the supplemental app\u00a0will include some timed written and video responses, usually about your skills\/interests and community involvement\/extracurriculars. the questions change every year so there\u2019s no way to know for sure what will be asked, but you can work on strengthening your involvement in ecs, volunteering, or a personal project, as well as jotting some points down about why you\u2019re interested in business (and rotman in particular).\u00a0 that&#8217;s all i have for you, you psychically connected duo. i hope my advice landed, and godspeed in calc and your applications!\u00a0 cheers,\u00a0 aska\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,246,245,201],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29523","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-admissions","category-applying-for-u-of-t","category-getting-into-u-of-t","category-rotman"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.8 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Hi, I&#039;m a grade 11 student in ontario and I&#039;m taking advanced functions and I&#039;ll get roughly an 89 or 90 if I do really good on the final. 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