• current student,  references

    stuck in a reference rut

    What should I do if I had a good relationship with a professor and was hoping to get a letter of recommendation from them, but then they sadly passed away?


    hello,

    i’m really sorry to hear that and hope you’re doing alright. as for the letter of recommendation, i think the obvious answer is that you have to ask someone else to write it, unless you’ve already asked this prof and they’ve already written and sent your letter (in which case i suppose it’d still be valid), or they’re writing letters for you from the grave (the commitment!).

    i know it’s tough to have to scramble to put together things like this, but at the same time, assuming you’d left a good amount of time to ask your former prof for the letter, you can hopefully manage to find someone else to write a letter for you by the deadline.

    i’m sure you’ve heard how important it is to ask profs early on so that they have time to respond and write your letter. ideally, you’d ask another prof who you have a great relationship with, but if that doesn’t pan out, i’d say a good choice would be to reach out to profs who have supervised you in some capacity e.g. for a research course, work-study, etc. second to that would be profs who taught you in a courses where you got good grades, hopefully participated a good amount in, and are related to the field you want to go into.

    i’d also consider the prof’s approachability. i’ve met profs who were really student-centred and would go to great lengths to help and seemed to always have the students’ best interests in mind, always willing to give extra support or one-on-one meetings even when i didn’t participate a whole lot or wasn’t very close to them. on the other hand, some profs just seem to be less personable, or less available to give extra help to students – either they’re too busy, or the class is too big, and they don’t seem to offer a lot of time outside of class – that could be a red flag for finding good referees, which requires a good amount of time and energy commitment.

    above all, i’d recommend emailing profs (or if appropriate, talking to them in person) as soon as possible. give them the key details, like your name, when you took their course (and which course), the programs you’re applying to, deadlines, and you can attach your transcript and CV as well, to save them the trouble of having to ask for more info if they need it.

    if you’re tight on time, it’s best to email multiple profs (say, 3-4, or more if you really want), just in case some don’t respond. even if you suspect that some of their references may be more lukewarm, it’s better to ask just in case your other options fall through. a mediocre reference letter is still better than none.

    as a side note, most of this advice is based on grad school applications, or applications in academia, but references for professional schools like med school or law school may differ. from what i’ve heard, letters from profs are a must in academia, while for professional schools the status of the referee may not matter as much as the content of your letter, in other words, a glowing review from a different supervisor/mentor figure, even if it’s not from a prof, could still be very beneficial to your application.

    or maybe you need the letter of recommendation for a job (actually, now that i think about it you haven’t really said much about what the letter is for…) or volunteering or something, in which case it might be even easier to find a different reference that’ll do the job. profs are notoriously hard to reach sometimes so if you can even bypass asking them for a reference and go with a different referee instead, that might work too.

    good luck!

    aska

  • references,  scholarships/bursaries

    how to avoid awkward encounters

    I’ve been looking up scholarships and I came across ASSU’s scholarships. Most of the scholarships are awarded based on community (volunteer) involvement. I was looking at the application forms and it says to list referee’s name and number. Would I have to call every referee and notify them that Im applying for a scholarship and they may receive a call for verification? That seems weird but I don’t want them to be surprised or something

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    hi!

    you don’t have to do that, but i highly suggest that you do. it might be even more awkward if the people from the scholarship get in contact with your referee(s) and they have no idea what it’s all about. trust me, an awkward encounter now will save you many more awkward moments down the line.

    i hope this helps!

    xoxo,

    aska

  • references

    volun-tears

    hey aska! im interested in volunteering at mount sinai and need a reference form completed by someone who is not a relative. Im considering asking my cousin who is the manager of my previous (and only) job. Although restaurants aren’t related to healthcare and she is a relative, can I still have her fill in the reference form (and not tell anyone shes my cousin)? She is not the general manager of the restaurant but before I quit they changed GMs so I’m not really close to the current GM. I also haven’t worked at the restaurant since 2015…. so would that be weird?

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    hi! i’m not gonna lie, that’s a little iffy. but you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.

    i think it should be okay though i would consider looking into finding an academic reference or even a reference from another volunteer position you may have held in the past. if they need a work/ professional reference, then i would resort to using your cousin.

    i hope that helps! good luck!

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    xoxo,

    aska

  • references

    talking to others is hard

    hello hello. How do I approach someone in a senior administration position about nomination letters and letters of support for scholarships and awards?

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    hi!

    dude, talking to people is so hard and it’s even harder when they’re in a position of authority.

    i would suggest just making an appointment with the person you have in mind and just being polite and straight-up about what you want. if you’re making the appointment over email, be as formal and cordial as possible. if you’re making it over the phone, be polite and amicable as possible. maybe even practice what you’re gonna say a few times.

    i’d also suggest asking someone you have an established relationship with. maybe there was a project you did for the registrar’s office or you were involved in an extracurricular where you had to be in contact with a senior administrator. if there’s someone that knows you well and has experience working with you, they would be a great option. in that case, i would remind them (when you’re making the appointment) of who you are and how you know them. yes, you’re special, but people are busy and forget.

    even if the person you have in mind doesn’t know you, i’d still reach out to them for an appointment. strike up a friendly conversation and see where it goes from there. i know that talking to people is incredibly hard (trust me, i’m an internet entity, i don’t talk to people in real life) but there’s nothing to lose!

    good luck!

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    xoxo,

    aska

  • references

    don’t ask us about the babies

    Hello askas (ive heard that there are two now)! I am applying for a few internships and I need some academic references. I also may need some for future grad programs! So I read your previous posts on profs and references. Could I ask TAs for references and if so, what approach should I take? Are there other people besides profs and TAs who can provide academic references? Or would references from TAs and other ppl be useless? Thanks for your time(:

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    hi!

    yep, there are now two askas running around the place. we are united by our frozen hearts, love of gifs, and distain for math. we’re also lowkey both beyonce. it’s a really really snappy work environment.

    academic references are usually instructors in a course, so usually a prof. i know that sometimes you form more relationships with your TAs, but academic references are usually the people who teach the course material. sucks, i know.

    if you have a TA you really really wanna use as a reference, i would get in contact with the organization that you’re trying to intern for or check out their application guidelines to see if they accept TAs or other people as references.

    good luck! hope this helps!

    xoxo,

    aska