commerce,  failing

commerce zen

Hey there!

Just stumbled on your blog and saw that you’re helping alot of people out. Thought you could do the same for me! Im currently in 1st year going to 2nd year (freaking out about how unlikely that seems now). I was invited for the Rotman Commerce program, but had 3 prerequisite courses to complete. I completed 2 of them, and currently doing summer school to make up for the 3rd (Econ). Im also doing summer school because i finished the semester with 3 credits and I know i need 4 credits to enroll in Subject POSts. I took Spanish and Econ in the summer, and now that its exam time, i think i was a little too laid-back and might not pass either course. I am still studying my ass off for the finals to atleast try and pass. But im kind of freaking out right now. I know i wont be accepted into Rotman, but im also worried about my status as a 2nd year student!

What happens now? Will i have to repeat the courses? Will i be put on Academic probation? What can I do?

I also havent enrolled in any classes yet for Fall/ Winter 2012-13 because of summer school and my confusion. And i know deadline is coming up, so im confused about which courses to take.

Please get back to me asap. Your help is much appreciated!

Thanks!

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Hey hey,

I think we are going to have to do a little university student yoga before we get into the nitty gritty. Downward dog, chug a beer, child’s pose, shot, shot, shot, sleeping pose.

Ok, so I’m going to assume you were offered the Guaranteed Admissions. Here are the requirements to get into the subject POSt … just so we’re on the same page, you know, boo:

Guaranteed Admission – How It WorksAll students admitted into the First Year Commerce are guaranteed a place in Rotman Commerce providing the following requirements are met:

  • Obtain a mark of 67% in Management (RSM100Y) and Economics (ECO100Y)* within one calendar year**
  • Obtain a mark of 50% in Calculus (MAT133Y or equivalent), within one calendar year**
  • Complete a minimum of 4.0 credits

* Students receiving a transfer credit for Economics must ensure the credit is the equivalent of ECO100Y. A generic Economics credit (ECO1**Y) does not satisfy Program requirements.

** Students may repeat any of the required courses once, in order to attain the requisite mark. Note that the repeated course(s) must be completed within the calendar year (as per the terms of the guarantee), as such, the repeated course(s) must be taken during the summer session of first-year (i.e. a student may not extend the terms of her/his guarantee in order to attain the minimum marks). Failure to meet any of the above, or failure to finish all the required courses by the end of the summer after first year (assuming full-time studies) will result in losing guaranteed admission.

From what I understand you did not fail the Econ so the “**” doesn’t really cover your situation. The repeated “within 1 academic year” frightens me slightly for you but I would talk to an academic advisor and see what they suggest.

If you don’t need the courses, you won’t be required to repeat those courses. But if you want to apply to Commerce again at a later point, you will have to take the Econ course again.

Once you’ve attempted (so this includes any courses that you might have fail) 4.0 FCE then your academic standing is assessed. This being said, you are eligible to be put on academic probation based on the number of credits you have attempted. Saying this though, it depends on the marks you have gotten this academic year. If your other two marks kicked ass, they could be your saving grace and you might not be put on probation.

Here is all the info: Academic Standing

There are four kinds of academic standing which apply to students who have attempted at least four courses in the Faculty: In Good Standing; On Probation; On Suspension; Refused Further Registration

Academic standing is assessed twice a year:

  1. At the end of the Fall/Winter Session; the GPAs used for this status assessment are the annual and the cumulative GPAs.
  2. At the end of the Summer Session; the GPAs used for this status assessment are the sessional and the cumulative GPAs.

Note: Students who have not achieved final standing* in 4.0 credits will have a status of “Not Assessed”.

In Good Standing:

Students are described as In Good Standing if they are neither On Probation, Suspended nor Refused Further Registration; these terms are explained below. For students with particularly noteworthy academic results, there are three specific forms of recognition, which are described in the ‘Student Services & Resources’ section.

Probation; Suspension; Refused Further Registration

The following regulations apply to students who have attempted at least four courses* in the Faculty.

  1. A student shall be on academic probation who
    a) has a cumulative GPA of less than 1.50 or
    b) returns from suspension.
  2. A student who, at the end of the Winter or Summer Session during which he or she is on probation
    a) has a cumulative GPA of 1.50 or more shall be in good standing
    b) has a cumulative GPA of less than 1.50 but an annual GPA of 1.70 or more (Winter Session)/sessional GPA of 1.70 or more (Summer Session) shall continue on probation.
    c) has a cumulative GPA of less than 1.50 and an annual GPA of less than 1.70 (Winter Session)/sessional GPA of less than 1.70 (Summer Session) shall be suspended for one calendar year unless he or she has been so suspended previously, in which case he or she shall be suspended for three years.
  3. A student who, having been suspended for three years, is again liable for suspension shall be refused further registration in the Faculty.

* “Achieved final standing” applies to courses in which a student remains formally enrolled on the last date for cancellation, unless the academic penalty normally attached to a later cancellation is removed by petition. This includes CR/NCR, but does not include courses with LWD or WDR.

I wouldn’t panic just yet. A lot of first year students go through similar trying times and come out victorious. I would go in and see an academic advisor stat! Once you know whats up you will be able to choose courses, which you need to get rolling or you will (and may already) be waitlisted for some courses you need or are desperate to take.

forever your chocolate and zen,
aska

 

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