• admissions,  concurrent ed,  victoria

    steppin’ towards CTEPpin’

    Dear Aska,

    I’m hoping to apply for the Concurrent Teacher Education Program (CTEP), which is sponsored by Vic College. From what I?ve read, I can take the Vic One Ryerson stream and then go into CTEP for second year. So my questions are, do I have to be a Vic student to enrol in Vic One? Would I have a greater chance of being accepted to Vic because of my program choice? And if not, how does it work in terms of getting into CTEP but not completing the Vic One Ryerson stream (i.e. attending a different college for first year)?

    Look forward to your answer, and thanks!

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    Hi there! This is a complex question, and it’s giving aska a bit of an inferiority complex, because even the best answer might not be dependable. That?s admissions for ya! But here goes.

    Indeed, there are several Concurrent Teacher Education Programs at U of T, one at each of the satellite campuses and at a few faculties and colleges downtown. Students can enter ?some of these programs either straight out of high school , and all of them out of of first year. Sounds like you?re asking about doing the Victoria College CTEP?after first year (there is no straight-from-high-school option for Vic or St. Mike’s). And you’re right, the calendar recommends: ?Students in first year should consider the Ryerson Stream of Vic One as preparation.?

    That sure seems like a hint from the admissions folks at CTEP that taking Vic One: Ryerson would help your chances to get into what is a very selective program. However, their wording makes no promises, and leaves some room for exceptions. According to Vic’s FAQ page on the matter, any first year student from any U of T program can, in fact, apply for the program. So if you do super well this school year, and meet all of Victoria College CTEP?s admission requirements,?you will be considered!

    However, if you do want to take the Ryerson stream to get that extra edge (which, more likely than anything else, will come in the form of extra confidence), you can apply to Vic One when you apply for U of T. Typically, Vic One students are from Vic (and your peers may look at you funny if you admit that you’re not), but any student at U of T can apply for the Vic One program, and there are a few non-Vic students who pierce the Vic bubble to take the program.

    As to whether your interest in CTEP would make you a more appealing candidate to Vic, its also hard to say. So many factors- your marks, your student profile, other applicants- go into that decision, and nothing is for sure. Do remember that Victoria College only considers applications from students who select Vic as their first choice college!

    In any case, the short answer is- nothing can truly ensure your admission to Vic or to CTEP, short of donating a wing or two to the Northrop Frye building, or getting a posthumous recommendation from Northrop Frye himself. But seems like you already know what you need to shoot for- apply to Victoria College and the Ryerson Stream of Vic One, and whether or not you get into either, apply for CTEP your second year. There’s really not much else you can do, besides to be yourself and kick mad butt in first year.

    Good luck pal-o!

    aska

  • admissions,  americans,  being canadian,  comp lit,  english,  grad school,  international students,  masters

    corn pops and comp lit: being american at u of t

    Dear askastudent,

    So I just recently developed an interest in UofT for grad school. Canada seems pretty great, and I want to explore some other places in the world. I would go to school for Literature, which falls in the Arts and Sciences program if my research is correct. Anyway, I was just wondering if you could give some advice about what would be expected from life in Canada that differs from the states. Is there any way to go about making the tuition cheaper? What is the english/comp lit department like?

    Any words of wisdom will suffice, like I said: simply curious! Thanks

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    Hi there oh curious American,

    You asked the right guy! The handsome and mysterious genius behind askastudent may just be an American student, and may also just be doing the undergraduate program in Comparative Literature.

    The Centre for Comparative LiteratureΒ is a fantastic and well respected program. Literary theorist Northrop Frye is just one of the great academics who made their careers at the University’s Victoria College, and your colleagues and professors in the program are of the highest caliber. What that also means is that it’s pretty tough to get in! For starters, the masters program requires you to be highly proficient in at least one language other than English, and for the doctorate, at least two (some students have an arsenal of a half dozen).

    Something else to consider: Despite the program’s high profile and prestige, humanities programs in Canada and at U of T are constantly under attack as academia angles towards more profitable ventures like science and business research. Just recently, the Centre for Comparative Literature was on the chopping block, and only thanks to spirited organizing and activism on the part of the students is it still intact.

    There is also a larger Department of English, which I know less about except that my English TAs have always been big sweethearts! Poke around the sites and maybe you can see which program suits you.

    As for being American in Canada, I can sincerely say it totally rules. The differences are minor, and can therefore sometimes be all the more surreal. Let me prepare you for a few:
    – It’s more than likely that you will develop the subtle Canadian pronunciation of ‘out’ and ‘about.’ You might even pick up the dreaded ‘eh’ You won’t notice it until your American friends from home tease you for it, so it can be an ugly surprise, but you’ll learn to embrace it.
    – About half of the words with spelling differences in British English maintain them here. ‘Colour,’ ‘favourite,’ ‘centre’ and ‘theatre’ are the first ones to learn, but you’ll be stretching it a bit if you use ‘globalization.’ Either way, I’ve never had a professor get on my case about it, despite my best efforts at losing sleep over it in my first year.
    – Money is cute and bright here, and there’s lots more change.
    – Hockey is the name of the game here.
    – The corn pops are different– and much, much worse.
    Regarding the tuition, there’s not much to be done- you’ll be paying international fees for at least a few years of your degree. Even if you get engaged your first week on campus, the process towards Canadian residence or citizenship is longer than a Master’s degree.

    Here’s a helpful article about the experience of immigrating to Canada as an American: Immigrant with an Asterisk ()
    Stay sweet, and kiss the land of the free for me!

    aska

  • admissions,  campus,  Transferring,  UTM,  UTSC

    campus switcheroo

    heyy, super helpful humanbeing!

    I want to ask one question. Can I transition from one U of T campus to another during my first year?

    Also, probably I wouldn’t have asked if I’d known where I can find info about transitioning on U of T website. Could you give me a link if there is one, please πŸ™‚

    Thanks in advance!

    -confused humanbeing

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    Hi there confused!

    What you’re asking about is called an internal transfer, and lots of students consider making such a campus-to-campus switch. The application to do as much is on the admissions website here, and you can apply as soon as today to start classes at a new campus next Fall. As to whether you can do that after just one semester, the answer is “no” for a couple of reasons. Enrolment services (the new, sexy title for “admissions”) will only accept transfer students after at least one year at any of the U of T campuses. Much like transferring universities, transferring campuses can only happen for September.

    Since admissions officers have only recently looked at your admission application, they want you to show improvement over a full year before looking at it again and re-assessing your acceptance for the various campuses.

    If you’re still bent on trying your luck, confused, your best bet is to contact admissions. I hope you’re charming!

    aska

    P.S. I’d like to correct the assumption that I am a “super helpful humanbeing.” I am, in fact, a super helpful cyborg. But thanks for the compliment!

  • admissions

    U of T, baby, i didn’t mean it, take me back

    Hello, my name is Kevin and I am a student attending the University of Toronto next year, and I am asking this on behalf of a friend. She originally declined the offer of admission from U of T and chose another university, but now she is reconsidering and would like to know whether there’s anything she can do to get into U of T again, and the consequences of such.
    Thank you,Kevin

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    Hey Kevin,

    So is this “friend” a result of a Jekyll and Hyde kind of experiment, with one accepting the offer to U of T and the other declining?

    Unfortunately there’s not much they can do at this point except reapply. U of T, like most people(/institutions), are hurt by rejection.

    They could call Admissions and Awards to beg and plead, but groveling might not actually help in this situation.

    Their best bet would be to reapply or transfer after a year at the school they accepted.

    peace and love,

    aska

  • admissions

    condition your conditions of admissions

    Hello,

    I am a student in highschool with an average of 82 percent in my grade 12 top six courses. The problem is that I have gotten accepted with conditions to life sciences ,they said that my average has to be above 75 percent OR MY PREREQUISITES HAVE TO BE ALTEAST ABOVE 70 PERCENT..My prerequisites are not above 70, they are around 68.My question is why did they accept me when I cant change my grade 11 marks ..or is thier admission decision also going to depend whether or not I? keep my average? of my grade 12 marks till june

    Do I stand A chance of getting in or AM I GOING TO BE DECLINED

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME

    ?????????????????????

    Yo yo,

    When you are offered admissions with conditions (which is always) they are looking to see that you maintain the level of academic success you have obtained already. ?Meaning that these conditions are based on grade 12 marks that you can have a chance to change.

    The average they are looking at are your top six 4U courses, including the required ones they mention.

    Your required courses are all 4U courses, meaning you should have taken them in your grade 12 year. If by chance you took them in grade 11, then you are correct and you can’t do anything about those marks.

    These are the required courses for UTM’s life science course:

    "For entry into first year studies in Life Sciences, students need six Grade 12 U/M courses including:
    
    English (ENG4U)*;
    Advanced Functions (MHF4U)*;
    Biology (SBI4U)*; and
    Chemistry (SCH4U).* "

    So these are the ones you want to make sure are above 70%.

    The force is in your hands!

    love and ice caps,

    aska

  • admissions

    my application info is wrong, that’s cool right?

    Hi!
    First off, I’d like to say thank you for having a website like this up and running! πŸ™‚ It’s awesome.
    Anyways, so I’m a full-time grade 12 student this year, and I’ve already applied to U of T. My application has been in the system for quite some time now, and was displaying all of my information correctly until this semester began. I am taking an eLearning course through TDSB, so it goes into my day school timetable and the homeschool that I’m taking it through has to share my information and what not with my homeschool. But through all of this, on the join utoronto portal for future students, my actual homeschool has been replaced with the school that I’m taking my eLearning course through. Basically they’re saying I don’t go to my homeschool. =(
    I just wanted to know if this is something of immediate importance. My guidance counsellor has phoned U of T admissions countless times, but they haven’t gotten back to her over this past week. She’s also sent them an e-mail and they haven’t responded. Should I visit admissions myself in person and have this rectified? Or, should I just stop worrying? Does U of T look at the high school you go to? I just wanted to correct it because well, it is incorrect, and I think it should be fixed, but please let me know. You are the all knowing experts! =)
    Thanks in advance.
    You’re awesome,
    S

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    Hey S,

    I’m not going to lie, the first time I read through the question my cool, collected nature panicked momentarily for you. After reading it again, I don’t think that it’s too big of a deal. U of T doesn’t preference what school you attended. As long as the information is correct on OUAC, I wouldn’t be all that concerned because they are the ones that send your marks out to the schools.

    Saying that, this is your admissions to university on the line. If you live in Toronto, I think stopping my admissions and awards might put your mind at ease. If not, why don’t you just give admissions a shout: (416) 978-2190. Just take an hour and call them non-stop until you get through. I’ve never had an issue getting through, so it seems strange your counsellor couldn’t. I don’t want you to chew your nails off in panic, but this is something you might want to settle sooner rather than later.

    see yah brotha/lova,

    aska

  • admissions

    i want them to look at my package … application package that is

    Dear Askastudent,

    Thanks for this reply. Just to clarify, will the application package actually get into the hands of the MSW admissions committee even with the less than stellar GPA? Basically, I (like most applicants) put a lot of heart and soul into my statement of purpose and would like to know that someone actually read it.
    Also, do you have any stats on the breakdown of #of applicants applying to the MSW program and how many of those apply to the 1yr and 2yr program? I would also like to ask how many spots are available for both programs but I’m pretty sure that’s pushing my question limit
    Thanks!

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    ew la la, aska got a second date.

    Shucks man, you know how to flatter an all-knowledgeable U of T monster.

    They will still look at your application regardless of your CGPA. They like to check out the whole package, if you know what I mean.

     

    NO. That’s not what I meant … gross.

    Unfortunately I have used up my three wishes and do not have access to any program/ applicat stats. Maybe you can sweet talk an answer out of the folks at the department.

    prepared for our third date,

    aska

  • admissions,  commerce

    i got a pickle, i got a pickle, i got a pickle … with commerce admissions

    Hey Aska,This is killing me.
    I want to get into Rotman commerce.
    My first semester has me taking law, advanced functions, and data.
    I’m going to finish with a 92 in law, but both maths at low 70s.
    Although functions isn’t a prerequisite to get into the program, will admissions look at my low mark as a slight against me.
    This leads me to what’s eating at me.
    Is it ok if I’m taking 5 courses in second semester, 5 courses that I plan will round out my top 6 courses? What I’m trying to ask is will these second semester courses hold equal value as first semester? If so, will they look at the second semester midterm marks to make the final decision?
    I’ve got hundreds of volunteer hours racked up and adequate extra curriculars.PLEASE ANSWER

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    Ohhhhtay,

    Lets Side Bar before we even get started, shall we?

    What do the stars of little rascal look like now?
    1) Spanky – Then ~ Now
    2) Darla – Then ~ Now

    3) Alfalfa – Then ~ Now
    This is what the Rotman Commerce website says

    Most offers of admission are made in late-May. By this time, Rotman Commerce and the University of Toronto will have received comprehensive information regarding your academic record, extra-curricular involvement and personal statement. This timeline ensures that we have sufficient information on which to base our admissions decision and that applicants are evaluated concurrently.

    A small number of early offers are extended in February of each year to exceptional applicants. To be considered for an early offer, you must submit your personal statement (i.e., the Rotman Commerce Personal Statement) no later than January 30, 2012.

    So it would seem that early acceptence would be based on grade 11 marks and first semester of grade 12 marks. It would make sense that the regular admission put out in May would be on your grade 12 first semester and midterm second semester marks. All admission offesr will be conditionary on completion of your grade 12 marks.

    Rotman’s website also states:

    Minimum admission requirements:

    • Completion of an Ontario Secondary School Diploma or equivalent, with six Grade 12 U/M subjects including English 4U and Calculus & Vectors 4U. (NOTE: It is expected that all students will have completed Advanced Functions as a co-requisite or prerequisite for Calculus & Vectors. However, in calculating your average for admission, the Faculty of Arts & Science will use the top four highest marks after ENG4U and MCV4U. Please note, Rotman Commerce does not accept repeated courses.
    • An average in the mid- to high-80s on your six Grade 12 courses (including ENG4U and MCV4U).
    • Completion of the Rotman Commerce Personal Statement (i.e., the supplemental application).

     

    So they will choose your highest 4U courses. It will be ENG4U, MCV4U and the 4 next highest. So if those two 70 something maths are your lowest they will not be included.

    Good luck you little math minx.

    forever faithful (most of the time),

    aska

     

  • admissions

    1. cardio 2. double tap 3. beware of bathrooms

    Hi,? ? ? ? I am a grade 12 student from British Columbia. My average right now is 79% and I want to get into the faculty of forensic science at utm. Does anyone know what is the entering average of this faculty and are the courses hard to study?

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    Hey Columbia/Columbus

    They don’t actually allow entering averages to available to non super secret people but from what I have heard, low to mid 80’s are what are suggested at the St.George campus. Admission at UTM is usually considered to be slightly lower, so you might have a chance.
    It all depends on the applicant pool. If you are applying with a lot of smarty pants than your chances might be lower, but it also works in reverse if a lot of dumb-asses apply! Who knows! It never hurts to apply though.

    forever optimistic,

    aska

  • admissions

    give me a second chance on my second chance

    Hey,

    I graduated high school in BC 2008 and I am apply to the mathematics and physics program for fall 2012 and had a couple of questions. I’ve since upgraded two of my courses and taken another for the first time, I know that the university policy states that they reserve the right to give
    preference to students whose marks represent one attempt and they urge students to do well the first time. This is good advice however a little
    late for me. What I am wondering is how they give preference, do they average your first and second attempts? or do they use it as a tie breaker?
    Also, would it be beneficial to explain why I had poor marks originally? Would a send a letter in with my transcripts or to someone specific
    directly, or would it be reasonable to go to the office in person and if so who would I speak to?

    Any names, suggestions, even a point in the right direction would beappreciated.

    Thanks,

    Theo

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    Hey Theo,

    From what I understand it is used as a tiebreaker. So in the case that it comes down to you and another student they will choose the one who received good marks in their first attempt.

    If you have a pretty darn good reason for why you repeated courses, then it really couldn’t hurt to investigate. Admission and Awards is the best office to be talking with about this. I have heard of transfer students being allowed to write a statement with an explanation, so there’s a slight chance this could apply for highschool applicants.

    HERE … did you click? That’s all the contact information you would ever need in order to stalk A & A until they gave you an answer.

    like a compass,

    aska

  • admissions

    sent ipod touch

    Hello,
    My name is Kiana. I’m hoping to go into either human biology, English, or business at U of T. Right now I’m looking at about a high/ mid 80’s for my average, for my TOP 6. But will they look at some courses individually for my admittance ?

    Sent IPod Touch
    – Kiana<3.

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    Hi Kiana <3,

    It is your top 6, which will include the required courses. For example, for English it will be your 4U english mark and the next top 5.? These are the requirements for Rotman Commerce:

    Minimum admission requirements:

    • Completion of an Ontario Secondary School Diploma or equivalent, with six Grade 12 U/M subjects including English 4U and Calculus & Vectors 4U. (NOTE: It is expected that all students will have completed Advanced Functions as a co-requisite or prerequisite for Calculus & Vectors. However, in calculating your ?best six? average, the Faculty of Arts & Science will use the top four highest marks after ENG4U and MCV4U.)
    • An average in the mid- to high-80s on your ?best six? Grade 12 courses (including ENG4U and MCV4U).
    • Completion of the Rotman Commerce Personal Statement (i.e., the supplemental application).

    So, in all scenerios it is an averaged mark, but individual courses will be required to be in?that average.

    Hope this was more helpful than confusing.

    ta,

    aska

  • admissions

    alohomora u of t

    Hey Ask,

    I’m currently enrolled at a University at my second year where I have no interest in what I am studying which has been reflected on my marks and have therefore been put on Academic Probation. I am most likely leaving the institution this month and want to apply to University of Toronto St. George to pursue a field that I am interested in. My problem is that I am not eligible for the Academic Bridging Program and Transitional Year Programme since I attempted a post secondary degree. Is there any way I can apply through another method that explains my current situation to U of T?

    Thank you very much,
    A

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    Hey A,

    When applying to U of T, they will look at both your highschool marks and your university ones. They also allow a page statement explaining what happened in your past?university experience. You will write this bad boy and send it to Admissions and Awards before the deadline in addition to your application.

    Try this resource. It gives you the downlow on everything to do with applying to U of T from a different university.

    cheerio,

    aska

  • admissions,  commerce

    pst … pssssst … secret commerce admissions

    Hiya! Just to let you know, I absolutely adore your site, and find it much more informative than the often vague and consistently difficult UofT site. I realize that some universities only consider applicants who list them as their first choice. Is this true for UofT? I’m applying to the commerce program, and am unsure if it is necessary for me to list UofT as my first choice. Thank you!

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    awww shucks!

    You are awarded brownie points and an answer!

    It doesn’t say anywhere that it is necessary for U of T to be ranked as number one.

    Buuuuuut … I did a little asking around and there were some hushed tones and side glances. They do sometimes accept those who do not rank U of T as number one, but it sounds like there is a bias towards picking students who ranked them as number one. One of the many unwritten requirements of U of T it seems.

    Ranking them as number one seems like a pretty good idea …and bringing me a coffee.

    forever cold and yours,

    aska