• admissions,  getting into U of T,  life science,  UTM,  UTSC

    the gutter called, your grades aren’t there

    Hello, currently a grade 12 student in my final semester and I’ve already been accepted to the other 2 campuses, life sciences for scarborough and Forensic. Currently panicking my mind with admission to the St George Campus for Life Sciences as with my first semester finals (83.3%) and 2nd semester mid-terms combined (86.7%), my average looks to be in the gutter with an 85% average currently. Since there will be 2 final rounds of admission in may, I felt like my chances are on the bleak side. 


    heyyo, 

    well I’ve heard about a lot of things being “in the gutter” but for some reason, i haven’t heard someone say that about having an 85% average in grade 12. weird, huh? 

    maaaaybe that’s ’cause an 85 is absolutely not in the gutter! that’s already solid enough for many many programs and is even within the range for utsg life sci, which is mid-high 80s. i also wanna point out that your marks have even improved in second semester, which may help you out too. 

    another thing i gotta wonder is if the averages you gave me are only for your top six classes, or if they’re you’re overall averages? for utsg life sci, and assuming you’re in ontario, admission average is determined by looking at your marks for eng4u, mcv4u, and your top four 4u/m courses that aren’t english or calculus. if you gave me your overall average, you may be in an even better position than you think.  

    and even if you don’t get in to utsg life sci… there’s so many other awesome paths forward. for one, it’s great that you got into utm and utsc! forensics sounds pretty cool to me, and if that’s something you want to pursue specifically, utm might be the better choice anyways because utsg doesn’t have a forensics program. if you end up at utm or utsc but think that being downtown is more your thing, you could always take courses at utsg as well. you’d just have to take a shuttle (utm) or a bus and subway (utsc), which kinda sucks, but it’s worth it if you want your big-city moment. 

    there’s also the possibility of getting an alternate offer, which means you might get an admission to another utsg category (like humanities) instead of life sci. while you may think that being subjected to studying philosophy or international relations for 4+ years sounds like actual hell (i’m allowed to say this because one of my programs is in the humanities), fear not: you can take programs outside your admission category as long as you meet the prereqs 

    i’m not sure when the april admissions round happened so you might’ve been accepted in the time between when you submitted this question and the time i’m writing this, in which case, congrats! but also, man, i guess you didn’t need me after all… 

    but if that didn’t happen, just know that plenty of people get admitted in may. you still definitely have a shot at utsg and even if that doesn’t work out, you have some great options in utm or utsc. stay strong and believe. 

    cheers, 

    aska 

  • enrollment,  enrolment,  programs,  UTM

    believe it or not, NOT straight to jail

    Hi aska 🙂 i had a few questions about placeholder programs for POStI’m pretty sure I won’t be getting into the T2 or T3 programs I want this round so I’ve enrolled in a T1 just to have something there for now until next year. However, i was wondering if it was allowed to be enrolled in it for the sake of having a program while not taking the courses required, instead just taking the ones for the T2 and T3 i want? I won’t get kicked out or barred or anything, will I? :c 


    heyyo, 

    ah yes program enrollment, definitely always a joyous time for many!

    i’m gonna assume you’re at utm, since that’s the only campus that refers to programs as t1, t2, t3 from what i can see? unless i’m really starting to lose my marbles, which i guess wouldn’t be too much of a surprise. 

    so first of all, i wouldn’t say FOR SURE that you won’t get into your t2 or t3 programs, since the first round doesn’t even end until april 30. and after that, you still have round 2, which reviews applications on an ongoing basis. also, from what i can see, type 2 programs have unlimited enrollment, so whether you get in or not will just come down to if you fulfill the entry requirements for that program. so before you freak out, check out the requirements for the program you’re interested in and you’ll know with (almost) certainty what your chances are.

    in the meantime, it is absolutely okay to take course requirements for the programs you wanna get into! you absolutely won’t get kicked out or barred or anything. believe it or not, NOT straight to jail. 

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    there’s just a few things you have to be careful about if you go that route. uno: some classes require you to be in a program to take them. from what i’ve seen this isn’t super common though. dos: IF you don’t get into your t2 or t3 programs at some point and you decide to do something else, you may have to take an extra semester or two to fulfill those program requirements. 

    with all that said, you’ll be ok! there is absolutely still hope for getting into the programs you want and even if that doesn’t happen this year, you can keep working towards them. 

    cheers, 

    aska 

  • academic success,  criminology,  UTM

    go get that crim

    I’m writing my second test today for criminology and honestly I’m traumatized after the first ever term test I took for any course came out as a 68 and I’m just worried about how it’ll affect my POSt. I also have no idea what study strategies work best so I can maintain 80-85 in my classes. 


    heyyo, 

    aw, i’m really sorry to hear that you weren’t feeling great after that test :/ 

    it’s totally normal to be disappointed, AND it was only your first test — so as difficult as it is, don’t be too hard on yourself.

    the good news is that trying to figure out what study methods are good for you is exactly what you’re supposed to be doing! so here’s how i can help you with that: 

    i did a bit of digging, and from what you told me i think you’re at utm? i’m also guessing based on the info about the program you wanna go into that it’s criminology, law, and society. the website tells me that the only courses you need to get in are: 

    1) ISP100, and 

    2) a final mark of at least 67% in SOC100 OR a final mark of at least 70% in both SOC109 (the course i think you’re talking about?) and one 0.5 credit course in sociology at the 200 level or above 

    although it says it can change each year, you will indeed need at least a 2.0 GPA to be considered, which is equivalent to a C average or 63-66%.  

    there’s a smaaaalll chance you could be aiming for the utsg program, but i think your description fits better with the utm one. still, i dropped the link to that program page in the off chance my sleuthing failed me.

    (oh, and ps: tell me what campus you’re at or you may not get the answer you want! i’m very wise but unfortunately i can’t read your mind through the internet. yet). 

    based on all that program info, if you were able to get a 68 on your first test, please be SO far from giving up hope! you’re very very close to where you wanna be. 

    if you wanna get some good advice or tips on how to study more effectively to get those grades up to the 80-85 you want, i think i found the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow when it comes to UTM study resources. if you can imagine that as a rainbow. 

     

    please meet: the Robert Gillespie Academic Skills Centre website. 

    in this pot of gold, you can find info on a whole bunch of programs and workshops, and if you’d rather stay in your room and sit behind a computer (same), you can peruse a ton of videos and articles about every academic skill you could imagine 

    and if all else fails, you can also book a personalized appointment at the centre so you can get your specific questions answered. 

    i hope this helps! you’ve got this 🙂 

    now go get that crim 

    cheers, 

    aska 

  • u of tears,  UTM

    into the deep end

    hey i’m an incoming freshman for utm social sciences and i had way too many people say uoftears in front of me recently so I was curious as to how difficult the social sciences program actually is, in terms of time spent studying and difficulty of assignments? I’m aiming for criminology law and society as a major plus maybe philosopy and polisci so I want to know what I’m getting into 🙂


    hey there,

    fair question! it’s super valid to want to know what you’re getting into at U of T after hearing about its reputation.

    just a quick disclaimer that i go to the UTSG campus, so i can’t directly speak to what it’s like at UTM. also, not everyone will agree with what i say here, because uoftears can be a touchy topic. remember that all this is just my personal opinion after spending a good three years here. 😀

    to answer your question, let’s look at what exactly feeds into the uoftears reputation and whether each thing applies to you or not.

    to my understanding, the discourse around uoftears is mostly tied to the student experience at UTSG. this is because the entire concept of uoftears is used to complain about two main things, one of which mainly applies to UTSG:

    1. a lack of social life (a UTSG issue)

    2. academic stress (a UTSG and UTM issue)

    social life

    let’s explain!

    U of T’s reputation for being depressing is largely fed by students’ feelings of isolation at the UTSG campus. i feel like UTM, if we’re looking at general trends, is not as plagued by this issue.

    due to its smaller size, UTM is known to be more interconnected. it’s easier to build relationships with your professors, TA’s, and classmates, with a much lower population compared to UTSG. for context, there are almost 70, 000 undergrad students at UTSG and around 16, 000 undergrads at UTM.

    meanwhile at UTSG, courses are so large (in the thousands sometimes) that professors and TA’s can only “know” a tiny fraction of their students. even when i try to build a relationship with my professors, i often just feel swallowed into the hoard of nameless faces and idk, it doesn’t exactly feel good to be perceived as a rando in class.

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    it’s also notoriously hard to make friends at UTSG. i fear the loneliness epidemic here is real.

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    so yeah, the uoftears experience of U of T as a depressing school is largely fed by these things. if you’re at UTM, i don’t think you’ll need to worry as much about this side of uoftears.

    ok sorry i need to move on and answer what you actually asked about: academics!

    academics

    in regards to academics, the truth is that U of T is an academically rigorous experience across all three campuses. you will spend a lot of time studying and working on assignments, and getting top marks will be very difficult.

    the study culture here is a lot more intense than other schools, especially during the long midterm season and exam month. like, i do not see any of my friends at other schools studying as hard as U of T students do.

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    however, it’s really hard to say exactly how long you’ll spend studying or how hard you’ll find assignments. if you wanted to check it out, i can offer you a flushed out answer of how long i personally spend studying in this other answer i posted.

    all i can really say is, social science programs at UTM are probably not the worst of uoftears and you will likely be fine. these programs aren’t exactly known for grade deflation, like say, life sci programs at UTSG — grade deflation is a big contributor to academic stress at U of T.

    you say you want to go into criminology and polisci. what i’ve heard is that they’re quite competitive programs, at least in comparison to other social science programs. i’ve also taken a few polisci/public policy courses, and man! you really gotta work hard in those. everyone was so smart, innovative, and quick on their feet — i had to really push myself to keep up in class discussions. (it was SO worth it though. being in this environment high-key forced made me to get smarter and better in record time.)

    overall, the jump from high school to university is quite hard, and at U of T, it’ll be harder than other canadian universities.

    but here’s the thing.

    sure, it felt like i was thrown into the icy cold deep end of a pool in my first year. but genuinely, it’s a high risk high reward situation. yes, you’ll study for so long your eyes start twitching, but also, you’ll have access to priceless career opportunities and connections at U of T.

    professors here are all, like, celebrities in their fields. they do crazy cool work and there is so much to learn from them. not all, but most, of the students here are super smart, dedicated, and ambitious people. you have a lot to gain from learning alongside them. U of T is also a very powerful institution with strong partnerships to other institutions, and we get a lot of funding for research, experiential learning, etc.

    basically, there are numerous reasons why people choose to go here. it’s hard work, but there is a lot to reap. there are also ways to avoid falling into the dark side of uoftears — like finding a good community on campus, choosing a program you actually care about, and knowing what resources are available to you (there is very good student support available at U of T).

    so yeah.

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    and that’s all i have for you. please don’t let anything i’ve said here scare you away. like, don’t you dare let me change the course of your future like that?? but i hope this helped. i hope i’ve adequately addressed the good and bad sides of U of T, however briefly.

    bestest of luck and welcome!!

    over and out,

    aska

  • digital enterprise management,  UTM

    hit dem hard

    Hello I wanted to ask few questions

    I applied for Management but unfortunately couldn’t get into it but however DEM was my alternative choice and I got acceptance in that but they say that major can only be declared after first year of studies. But the problem is that DEM is type 3 degree and I don’t have any third choice so I just want to be sure that I will not be denied entry into it after completing the prerequisite courses and minimum grade requirement.

    My programme is at UOFT Mississauga Campus .

    Thank you


    hey there,

    aw i’m sorry to hear that you didn’t get into your first choice! that can really suck.

    this is also such a valid concern. if you didn’t get into management and are now settling for your second choice, i totally understand why you want to be sure you’ll get in this time around!

    here are some of my thoughts.

    first, you’ve got it right that at U of T, program enrolment happens after your first year of studies. as you can see on this page, you need to have completed at least 4.0 credits to get into a program. (for context: one half-year course is 0.5 credits. so you can complete 4.0 credits by taking, for example, 4 courses in the fall and 4 courses in the winter.)

    second, the info you have about DEM is correct. DEM is a type 3 program, which means

    1. you have to apply
    2. you have to meet the program requirements, and
    3. there are limited spots available

    that third point makes things a bit harder. the fact that there are limited spots available means that even if you meet all the program requirements, there’s a chance you won’t get in — but, don’t panic yet! this is just what i’ve heard from word of mouth, and it generally only applies if there’s a lot of interest during a certain year. if there’s too much competition, the people who are just on the edge of meeting the grade minimums may not get in. (eg. if the minimum is 70, your grade is 70 or 71.)

    so if you wanna play it really safe, what i would recommend is that you try your best to exceed the minimum grades by as much as you can.

    if you take a look at the digital enterprise management page on the academic calendar, you’ll be able to see exactly what the minimum grades for your program are. this page says you’ll need to have completed the following courses…

    1. CCT109H5 (with a minimum grade of 70%);
    2. CCT110H5 (with a minimum grade of 70%); and
    3. CCT112H5 (with a minimum grade of 70%)

    but on top of this, you’ll also need to meet a minimum cGPA. the thing is, they say the minimum cGPA changes every year based on competition and interest.

    so if you asked for my personal opinion on how to ensure your admission into the DEM program, it’s this:  really try your best to not only meet, but exceed the minimum grades in the three required courses. and, try to keep your overall GPA as high as you can.

    like, don’t get me wrong. you definitely don’t have to drive yourself insane trying to get perfect marks. but, i just want you to be aware that simply meeting the mark of 70 will probably not guarantee you admission into the program. in fact, U of T loves to say that meeting the minimum grades doesn’t guarantee you a spot. so in response, i say aim for a higher mark than you think you’ll need. but also, through it all please remember to be gentle and kind with yourself!

    and finally, i’d recommend that you apply during the first program request period. 

    as you can see on this page, there are 2 program request periods. while the current dates shown are still specific to 2025, they should update in the fall to 2026 dates. but in general, the first request period opens in early march and closes in late april. that’s when you should apply.

    i recommend this because applying during the first round gives you two chances to get into your program! if you apply during march-april round, you’ll hear back with an acceptance/rejection in may. and if you’re rejected, this gives you enough time to apply again during the second request period in june-august! yay.

    anyways, just keep in mind that CR/NCR courses won’t count towards the 4.0 credits required to get into a program. in simple terms, CR/NCR is basically for when you want to avoid having a low mark affect your transcript, so you can request for it to show a pass/fail instead. so if you choose to do this to a course, make sure you’ll still finish first year with at least 4.0 credits in other courses.

    sooo yeah! i hope this was helpful. i hope you hit all those requirements and hit dem hard.

    ha.. ha..

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    over and out,

    aska

  • admissions,  applying for U of T,  UTM

    chronically confused

    Hi I want to apply to study Communication, Culture, Information & Technology at University of Toronto Missisigua And I am quite confused on their website I am seeing the deadline for early admission is June 27th but sometimes I see January 15th I am pretty confused when does early admission and regular admission open and what day do they end?


    hey there,

    ok yeah, i took a look at the CCIT and UTM websites and it is a bit confusing as to what the dates and deadlines are.

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    well, here is my summary of the admissions deadlines according to this UTM dates and deadlines page:

    • november 7 is the “recommended application deadine for early consideration”
      • december 15 is the “recommended document deadline for early consideration”
    • january 15 is the “application deadline for all applicants on OUAC”
      • february 1 is the “document deadline for all applicants”

    as you can see, it might be confusing because there are different deadlines for your application and getting all your documents in. the gist of it is that november 7 is the early admission deadline and january 15 is the general admission deadline. apply for the early deadline if you want to be considered in the first round of offers, but apply before the general deadline if you want more time to get everything together. but keep in mind, some spots may already be filled by early applicants by then.

    meanwhile, later on in the spring, you’ll have acceptance deadlines (for you to accept U of T’s offer):

    • may 1 is the acceptance deadline for canadian and international applicants
    • june 3 is the acceptance deadline for ontario applicants

    however, the website says that with these acceptance deadlines, you might have a different, specific date as stated in your offer letter.

    it seems to me like there is no deadline on june 27. i searched that date up on google with the “must include” function and nothing relevant came up for CCIT admissions. but, i do see a july 12th date on the same dates and deadlines page i’ve been talking about. it says that the “application deadline dates for september 2024 entry” was closed on july 12, 2024.

    soooo yeah. that is super confusing. personally, i think the july 12 date seems way too late to be an application deadline. when i applied to U of T st. george campus, the deadlines for me were also november 7 and january 15. so my honest student-to-student advice is to just stick to that and ignore the july 12 date.

    HOWEVER, i am not involved in the admissions process and before following what i say, you might want to confirm it. the easiest thing to do in this situation is to just send in a quick question through this page.

    anyhoo, good luck with your application!

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    over and out,

    aska

  • biology,  GPA,  programs,  UTM

    no need to panic (i did it already)

    hey aska, i really need your help. i’m panicking.
    I’m a utm student and i just finished my first year in life science. i’m trying to go into one of the bio programs but i’m scared about my gpa. it currently does not reach the minimum as stated in the academic calendar and i’m really worried about not entering into my dream program (bio for health sci). i’m taking a couple of courses this summer to hopefully boost my gpa but when i checked the gpa calculator, i don’t think it would help :(. i do have 4.0 credits and the necessary courses, it’s just my gpa i’m worried about.
    someone told me that if i don’t have a POSt by the end of this summer, I wouldn’t be able to enter into second year of uni and will need to redo first year all over again (which i cannot do). they said that, worst case scenario, i can just apply to type 1 programs and i’ll be automatically going into second year. not sure if this is true, but i want to avoid the worst-case scenario and get into the programs i want.
    the POSt i’m applying to: major in bio for health science or just biology,
    my ideal future POSt is: major in bio for health science, major computer science.
    my backup POSt is: bio for health science, minor in computer science, minor in psychology. however, i didn’t get the minimum grade for psy100. i also haven’t taken computer science courses yet because i’m in life science. idk what to do.
    should i take a third course this summer to boost my gpa, like a psych course? or is that a bad idea? do they round the gpa? and when will the university accept POSt requests?
    please tell me someone was in the same position and ended up being a great student. i need to be inspired.
    sorry, this is very long but thank you so much!

    hey there,

    ok ok you’re gonna be fine! you’re going to be OKAY.

    first of all, i know program selection and admission can be so overwhelming and stressful! when i was at that stage, i definitely did a lot of panicking too. but let’s not worst-case-scenario this situation. let’s look at where we are and see what options are available from where you are, alright?

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    so just to recap: the biology for health sciences program is a type 2 program. in order to get admitted into it, you need a minimum cgpa of 2.5. you also need to complete 4.0 credits, including the courses BIO152H5 and BIO153H5. you say your gpa does not reach that minimum, but you’ve completed 4.0 credits including BIO152 and BIO153. you’re taking courses this summer to raise your gpa, but you don’t think you’ll reach the minimum regardless.

    ok.

    let’s answer some of your questions.

    1. when is POSt admission?

    i’m assuming you’ve already requested enrolment to your program during round 1 of program application, which runs between march 5 and april 30. the deadline to accept your offer for round 1 is may 30, so i’m assuming offers will go out sometime during may. however, if you haven’t done this yet, round 2 runs between june 3 and august 23, and the deadline to accept offers is september 15. so offers for round two will probably go out late august or early september.

    2. should you take summer courses to boost your gpa?

    i think you could definitely take more courses during the summer and absolutely lock tf in in order to raise your cgpa. and when you ask whether you should take a third course, i think that would be fine! as long as you’re staying under the maximum of 2.0 credits for the whole summer and maximum of 1.0 credits per sub-session.

    i would say though, that taking less courses at a time increases your chances of doing better/getting better grades. if you spread yourself too thin, you might not do as well as you hoped. so just make sure you can handle the course load you give yourself!

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    if you do want to take multiple summer courses in order to boost your gpa, i would also recommend taking elective bird courses. this would give you a much higher chance of skyrocketing that gpa rather than if you were to take your required courses. taking courses in summer is also known to be “easier”, since the course moves faster and grading is “nicer”. in my experience, i’ve found this to be quite true.

    3. should you take a psych course for the summer? 

    it depends which psych course you’re talking about. according to the timetable builder, there’s only one first-year psych course offered during the summer at utm: PSY100. but you said you’ve already taken it.

    if you are taking a course purely just to raise your gpa, i wouldn’t take some of the second year courses i see, like PSY201 since that is required courses in the psych program. (red flag to watch out for are large, required courses. these tend to be harder!)

    4. do they round your gpa?

    i don’t think they round your cgpa for program admissions. but if you mean “round” as in scale your grade in courses, that really depends on the course. some do, and those tend to be hard courses that have low averages.

    my thoughts on the situation.

    in the case that you don’t get into your program this year, it is most certainly not the end of the world nor is it the end of your bio dreams. you have several options here.

    1. option one: apply to the biology major instead. the minimum cgpa for this is 2.0, and it has the exact same two required courses, BIO152 and BIO153.

    2. option two: apply to an open POSt for now.

    it is not a worst-case scenario if you apply to an open POSt to automatically go into second year, then reapply to your POSt next year. many people i know applied for a POSt in first year AND second year! drawing from my own experiences, the main consequence of not getting into your first-choice POSt would simply be later course enrolment times going into your second year.

    for some context, in my first year, i applied to two type 1 arts POSts. but like literally two months after, i changed my mind and decided i wanted to switch one of them to a type 2 life sci POSt. so it wasn’t exactly that i didn’t get my first choice POSt. i’m just an Indecisive Person. 😀

    anyways, what i did that summer—after deciding i was going to switch programs—was enrol in the required first-year courses for my new program. however, because i was not in my life sci program OR a first year, i had to wait until the general course enrolment period just for certain courses, which was maybe 2 weeks later. this was the main inconvenience i faced for not being in my desired second-year program right off the bat.

    my main message is that enrolling in a type 1 program is absolutely fine. you just might have to deal with a few early morning classes or second choice tutorial times, as a result of your course enrolment time! then, you’ll lock in AGAIN and get those grades up to apply again after second year! yeah, you will!

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    and look at me! i’m fine. i applied to my desired program after second year, and got in. now, it’s all smooth sailing from here (aside from the weekly what-am-doing-with-my-life crises i have haha…). while i wasn’t in your exact same situation, i did go through some similar steps! and am i a great student? well, if i do say so myself, yEs.

    i hope i provided sufficient inspiration.

    but anyways, it is SO normal to apply to a program after second year, you’re all good!

    and finally, there’s a whole powerpoint presentation that u of t made on navigating your exact situation, so again—you are most definitely not alone! i highly recommend taking a look at it, it gives different scenarios with specific academic plans and next steps. i also am on my knees begging you to please connect with an academic counsellor at your registrar. they’ll be able to direct you much more specifically, with access to your transcript. that’s the best thing you can do for yourself right now.

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    wishing you so much luck rn. shoot me any more of your concerns/questions/qualms/quibbles if they come up!

    over and out,

    aska

  • admissions,  commerce,  repeating course,  UTM

    a grand total of one fact

    Hello!

    I applied for UTM Commerce but the problem is that I retook one of my grade 12 courses. I checked the program details and it says that they use the higher of the two marks when calculating my average but reserve the right to treat applicants who did the course in one go with preference. I was just wondering how much retaking a course will weigh against me and what the chances of getting into the course are (My average currently is in the range that they look for)


    hey there,

    i don’t blame you for being confused (this implies i sometimes blame people for being confused). if i was in your situation, i would have the same question. but honestly, it’s really hard to say. u of t doesn’t have a specific statement on this, and i hate to say it, but it makes sense. things change every year, since the chances of getting in all depends on the number of applicants and how brutal the competition is. there’s really no way to make an exact projection of your chances.

    i think that it would depend on which of your grade 12 courses you repeated. according to utm’s admissions page, you need six grade 12 courses, including english, advanced functions, and calculus & vectors. if it was one of those three courses, i’m sure they would matter more than if you repeated a random grade 12 course. if a repeated course even matters for admissions. it is so unclear.

    i know my answer is not much better than what u of t websites officially say, but that’s because i honestly just don’t have insider knowledge on utm commerce first-year admissions. i’m a student, not a recruitment officer. but i do have an identity crisis about this every time i answer an admissions question!

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    i did find some info about upper-year program admissions, which might give you a feel for the competitiveness. on the undergrad programs FAQ page, they say that they receive about 600 applications for the commerce program and accept around 300 students. i’d say those are pretty good odds, at a 50% acceptance rate! for reference, the management program accepts 60 students out of 300 applications. the competition is pretty bad in that one.

    keep in mind that i’m talking about the acceptance process that happens when everyone applies to their POSt (program of study) after first year. so this is not about first-year admissions, where you are at right now. it’s just meant to give us an idea of the numbers. overall, we’ve learned that commerce is less competitive than management, and that many more students get accepted into commerce.

    i’m working with crumbs here, guys. it’s just that the 3D world is holding me back from unleashing my omniscient powers today, or something.

    Raccoon Snacktime GIF by Disney

    then we finally come to the one and only concrete fact we’ve really got about your chances. the admissions site says that the approximate competitive average for first-year commerce admissions is in the mid 80s. so if your average is in that range, i think you should be fine. but keep in mind the site says “meeting these minimum requirements does not guarantee you admission to the university”. again, this is because “admission is subject to space availability and competition”.

    anyways, sorry i couldn’t be more helpful. i recommend checking out my previous answer about retaking grade 12 courses, and reaching out to a utm recruiter. if you want to know specific details, definitely please reach out to a recruiter. good luck with everything! i think you will do great.

    over and out,

    aska

  • Transferring,  UTM

    seeya sauga

    Hello, I got refused from uoft art and science. And got admitted to UTM physical and chemical science. But the major I want do is not offer at UTM. Is there any chance that I transfer to uoft art and science. If yes what should I do, like would it matter the courses I’ll take in my first year at UTM? Please help. And thanks ?


    hey there,

    yup, you can definitely transfer to uoft artsci after first year. you’ll have to apply as an internal applicant on ouac. just so you know, the application deadline for early consideration is november 7th and the final deadline is january 12th next year.

    it looks like the main criteria for transferring is your gpa (what else is new) and you should aim for at least a 2.7 cgpa, which is around a B average. you’ll also need the high school and university (first year) prerequisites for the program you’re interested in.

    one possibly good thing is that as an internal transfer, you can carry over some of the courses you’ve completed at utm so that they go towards your uoft artsci degree — these are called “retained credits”. the confusing part of all this is that there isn’t actually any firm guideline out there on which utm courses correspond to uoft artsci courses, so you’ll have to do some guesswork.

    i’d recommend looking up the uoft artsci major(s) that you’re interested in and checking out the required first year courses. if you see any utm courses in the “exclusions” section of the course description, that usually means that they have similar content or overlaps with the course you’re looking at, and there’s a good chance that they’ll count as a retained credit for your transfer. you can also try to pick courses that match the timeframes of the utsg courses you’re interested in, like picking full year Y courses versus semestered S or F courses.

    of course, you don’t have to load up on all the courses for your future major in order to transfer, the most important thing is probably keeping a good gpa and taking the prerequisites you need for POSt.

    anyways, i hope that helps. best of luck!

    aska

  • current student,  management,  programs,  UTM

    if at first you don’t get into post, try try again

    Hi, I’m a UTM student and wasn’t able to make the management pOST or meet some requirements. Would it still be possible to redo the year and graduate within the four years? I’m going into second year with another program, just wondering if attaining that first choice would still be possible. I struggled with economics and math courses as they aren’t my strong suits but the second program doesn’t require them and is something I find more interesting rather than practical. What would you suggests?


    hi there,

    it’s technically possible to reapply to the POSt and graduate in four years, but honestly, it’ll probably be very difficult. it also depends on the number of courses you’ll need to retake to improve your grades for POSt. retakes to improve your marks for POSt are allowed, but they’ll be considered “extra” and won’t count towards the 20.0 FCEs you need to graduate. so, if you need to retake all 3.0 FCEs that are required to get into management, you’ll need to also squeeze in an extra 3.0 FCEs of other courses that are not retakes. that means taking up to 23.0 FCEs of courses total (since the 3.0 retakes don’t count… hope that makes sense :/)

    if you really want/need to graduate in four years, you’ll need to take courses in the summer or overload during the school year (take more than 5.0 FCEs) to finish all those courses on time. the other thing you might have to worry about is whether you can fit all the upper year management program courses in your third and fourth years. some courses might have prereqs or are only offered in certain semesters, which can be kind of annoying to plan around. i just gotta plug the degree explorer, as always, because it’s honestly just a great tool to plan out all the courses you need.

    of course, graduating “on time” is totally subjective anyway and plenty of students take five or more years. if you’re dead set on doing management and it’s feasible for you to take an extra year, don’t feel like you have to finish in four.

    btw, if you’re looking to do a “practical” major that’s related to management/business etc, you could look into applying to other related POSts too, which might increase your chances. for example, the utm commerce major or economics programs might cover similar things related to management, and they seem to have the same prereq courses as management, so it probably wouldn’t hurt to shoot your shot at a good handful of programs.

    i’d also recommend meeting with your registrar — they could definitely give some more in depth advice based on your transcipt and personal experiences so far.

    best of luck!

    aska

  • courses,  current student,  UTM

    an imposter among us (sorry, i had to)

    Hello! I’m a st george student and just realized a course I’ve been taking online is from the mississauga campus. Does it matter? will the mark count toward my grade do I have to tell anyone about this?


    hey there!

    generally the course would count towards your gpa and degree requirements, as long as it’s not an exclusion for a course that you’ve already taken. exclusions would be marked as extra courses and won’t count towards your gpa or degree.

    you should also double check with your registrar’s office to see if the course would count towards your degree requirements. if you’re hoping to take the course for your program requirements (major, minor, specialist, etc.) then you’d also need to ask your department.

    there’s some more info on taking courses at other colleges on this page, under “Courses in Other Divisions”, but that pretty much covers the main points!

    so rest assured, as long as you have a chat with your registrar to clear things up, it’ll likely be fine… just act natural and channel your inner utm student.

    all the best,

    aska

  • one programs,  UTM

    do it!!!

    Hello! I have been invited to apply to utmOne Scholars. Do you have any experience in these type of courses? Do you know if they are more difficult in grading? Thank you 🙂

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    hey there,

    i’ve never been in the utmONE scholars program, but i was in a similar first year seminar program at st. george. based on my own experience with courses like the ones utmONE offers, i’d really recommend that you apply.

    small first-year seminars are the best investment you can make in your transition from high school to university. because of the class size, you get to know your profs and classmates much better, and have far more meaningful support in your learning. your coursework is more likely to be experiential or creative, too, which is always a plus given the heavy academic workload of first-year. the first-year seminars i took absolutely changed the course of my degree and i owe so much to having taken them.

    however, i can’t say whether utmONE classes are graded harder than other utm courses. when i took special first-year seminars at st. george, i found that they were graded much easier than my large first-year introductory lectures. it looks like utmONE has more of an intentional research focus than the seminars i took, though, so i’m not sure how that’d affect the grading system. if you have specific concerns, this webpage lists an email address that you can contact with further questions. you can try sending them a message!

    be Boundless,

    aska

  • breadth requirements,  UTM

    i, too, avoid math

    Hi there! I’m currently taking psy100 to fulfill half of the science breadth requirement but honestly I am not a science student and was wondering if you had any courses you would recommend that will still fill the requirement but is less science/math heavy. Thanks! 🙂

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    hey there,

    you didn’t specify what campus you go to, but i’m guessing you’re a utm student because that’s the only campus with a science breadth requirement. i could be wrong, though, because it looks like utm is the only campus still referring to their breadth requirements as distribution requirements.

    it’s hard for me to recommend courses for this breadth requirement at utm, because my personal experience is limited to st. george. but from my experience and from what i’ve heard from my friends, beginner astronomy courses are great for breadth requirements because they don’t require a ton of math and are mostly memorization. obviously that’ll vary based on professors, so don’t take my word as a guarantee! geology courses might also be good for you, since i believe they won’t be as math-heavy as something like physics.

    this utm page recommends some science distribution requirement courses that generally look like solid options to me. you might try one of the anthropology options—”Fantasies, Hoaxes and Misrepresentations of the Ancient World” looks fun—since anthropology is often offered by the faculty of arts at other universities.

    to sum all this up, in order, i think your best options by subject are anthropology, astronomy, and then geology.

    i don’t know about recommending specific courses, though, since i haven’t taken any at utm. if you know any more advanced students at your campus that you can ask for specific course recommendations, do that! most people at u of t are happy to help younger students and answer quick questions.

    be Boundless,

    aska