• internal transfer

    it me, a blessing

    Heyyyy! Just wanted to say this website is a blessing, so helpful! I had a quick question about internal transfer (I’m sorry, i know they are the most annoying questions :(. Im currently a first year at UTSC life sci, and um chem didnt go too well, so Im retaking it this sem, and was panning to do the other chem in the summer. I sent my internal application for UTSG in January but it it only says “application received” and nothing else :(. Does this mean something? Or are they just waiting for my second sem marks? Cuz i did say to send the transcript for winter and summer. Any advice or information is greatly appreciated ?

    hey there,

    internal transfers are, indeed, one of the most obscure things at this school. how do they work? when do they work? wish i knew.

    i mean… you could try calling the undergraduate admissions office for utsg artsci, and ask them if there’s anything else you need to submit right now. it is entirely possible that they’re just waiting for your marks to be updated. but yeah, only they would be able to tell you for sure. if you haven’t sent any transcripts at all along yet, then i doubt you’re going to get any results back until you do. they can’t assess you without your marks, after all.

    if you’ve sent in everything you’ve been told to send in, then i’d just say sit tight and wait for your application status to change.

    if you haven’t spoken to your registrar’s office re: your internal transfer yet, i’d reach out to them as well. they may know more than i do / be able to advise you more in-depth.

    best of luck with the transfer! hope it goes through.

    be Boundless,


  • internal transfer

    le big sigh

    Hi, I am currently a first year UTSC student wanting to transfer to UTSG for second year. I applied to the social sciences program and I was wondering what the general competitive cGPA for internal transfer is. I have a 2.9 right now and I am a little nervous. Please let me know!!


    hey there,

    i’ve gotten this question a few times in the past, and it never ceases to frustrate me how little info there is on internal transfers to UTSG. UTM has its competitive internal transfer cGPA estimate– where’s st. g’s? geez.

    i’ve been told nothing gets published because it’s such a dynamic pool of applicants, and they can’t actually put a number out and risk being held to it in case it doesn’t accurately reflect what they get that year. which i guess kind of makes sense?? but doesn’t really help you out much. i wish i had more on this, i do. it sucks that you just kinda gotta keep your fingers crossed and wait for word. which isn’t ideal.

    you might try calling enrolment services and see if they’re willing to tell you anything. that’d be my best bet, although i only have about 38% confidence it will work.

    best of luck, though. aska is cheerin’ for ya.

    be Boundless,


  • admissions,  internal transfer,  transcripts,  Transferring

    someone’s jumping ship from utm or utsc

    hey do you know if i need transcripts (from uoft and/or high school) to apply for an internal transfer to utsg?


    hey friend,

    i started an ouac internal application myself to figure this out for you, so here’s hoping they don’t actually hold me to finishing this lol, i am happy where i am.

    under the ‘transcript requests’ section of the application, you will be required to have transcripts sent directly from whatever your high school was, as well as from your current u of t campus. this u of t website also says that yes, they will be looking at your full academic history to evaluate your application.

    hope this helped and best of luck with your internal application!

    be Boundless and have a good winter break,




  • internal transfer

    back to ouac

    Hey, I’m a soon to be UTM student studying social sciences, and was wondering how hard or competitive it would be to switch to Uoft st George campus rather than the Mississauga one. What type of gpa would I need and what type of process will I have to go through. Also I had originally applied for uoft st George but was rejected and given an alternative acceptance to uoft Scarborough and Mississauga, would my rejection lessen my chances to get into st George?


    hello hello and welcome to askastudent! (and u of t at large i guess)

    maybe this’ll come as a surprise to you, but this is actually a highkey common question. you’ll be looking to do a lil something we call an internal transfer, for which you’ll need this ouac app. that’s right, you’re being sent back to ouac. it’ll cost you 90! entire! dollars! and your deadlines will be sometime in january, if previous years’ are any indication. i wrote in this post that it’d be best to get it done during christmas break, but i’m realizing now that it’s likely better to get it in as soon as you can. all i know is it’ll open in the fall (at the same time as other u of t apps i’m assuming?) so just keep an eye out.

    the type of gpa you’d need will obviously vary by program– especially if you’re hoping to transfer straight into POSt. i don’t know what your plans are regarding this, so it’s hard to speak to– and either way, i don’t really have that kind of data. maybe i should look into getting it, if possible. problem with this kinda info is it’s so hard to track down.

    if you’re transferring into the social sciences, though, i’d say that generally things will not be as competitive as programs like compsci. unless you’re shooting for something super prestigious like peace, conflict, and justice, socsci tends to not be as cutthroat.

    what i’ve done in the past is referred people to utm’s internal transfer gpa requirements. to be competitive as an internal transfer student there, you’d need a cumulative GPA (CGPA) of 2.5 and upwards. it’s hard to tell, though, if those requirements carry over to utsg– so i would advise you to speak to your registrar and see if they have anything more concrete for you. they may know, too, if your past rejection will lessen your chances. i know that for external transfers, unis will typically look at a student’s whole academic record, but i don’t reeeeallly know if this carries over to internal transfer kiddos.

    hope this was still helpful, though! best of luck with your first year and the internal transfer.

    over n out,


  • internal transfer

    you’re uts-g to go (in like a year or so)

    Hi, so I’m in high school and got accepted to both utsg and utsc for lifesci but I don’t think I’m gonna be able to meet my conditions for my utsg offer. so I was thinking that I would accept my utsc offer and transfer into utsg from there. do you know how soon I could do that? and how I would do it?


    hey there,

    congrats on both offers! even if you ultimately don’t end up at utsg first year, that’s still pretty great and i am a proud aska.

    from what i know you’d only be able to transfer to utsg after first year. this would be called an internal transfer, and it should be done through ouac. this is the link to the application, and the important dates you need to know are here.  essentially, the deadline will probably be in january of your first year. i’d keep an eye out for it, and try to get it done during christmas break if i were you– but that’s obviously just a recommendation.

    over n out,


  • internal transfer,  UTM

    you are artiste

    Before I ask my question, I wanted to say thank you for your advice. I finally got in! So my question is I’m currently going into Art & Art History but I want to transfer to Visual Studies at the St. George campus after my first year. Would it be impossible to do?


    hello again,

    WELCOME TO U OF T MY FRIEND, i’m so excited for you and big congratulations on your acceptance. as far as i know, what you want is certainly possible. in order to transfer to visual studies at utsg, you’ll be looking at doing an internal transfer into the daniels faculty of architecture, landscape, and design. utsg’s rotman faculty (the business one) is the only one that doesn’t seem to take transfers from other u of t campuses, so as a potential daniels kid you’re in luck.

    the terrible thing is that you actually have to apply through ouac all over again. assuming you’re a full-time student, you’ll be using an internal application that will apparently cost you $90. when going over your application, the university will look at both your overall academic record as well as your grades from the year you spent at UTM.

    i’m not sure exactly what grades you’d need to be considered, at utm, to be competitive as a transfer student from another u of t campus, you would have needed a cumulative GPA (CGPA) of 2.5 and upwards. this is a bit awkward because the u of t grading scheme  jumps straight from a C+, or 2.3, to a B- at 2.7– and anyway, i would guess that the utsg threshold would be higher. it’s not publicized, though, so you may want to give your registrar a visit and ask if they know anything.

    to get into visual studies specifically, you’ll need to have met any program prerequisites. i can’t exactly figure out what prereqs visual studies requires, so you may want to look into that if you can.

    since you’re applying to daniels and not artsci, you’ll need to apply for a transfer credit assessment once you get admitted. it’s the same school, i know, but what you’ll learn very quickly is that u of t is this weird disjointed bureaucracy of all these different offices that report to different things. so i guess in some respects, the campuses are treated as quite distinct from one another. you’ll only need to do this after you’re admitted, but keep in mind there’s an extra fee tacked on of 30 whole dollars. that’s like, two whole sushi burritos. a devastating amount.

    the deadlines for your application aren’t out yet, but to give you an idea of what you’re looking at, the deadlines for 2019-2020 internal transfers were january 10, 2018 for the application, with a recommended deadline of november 1 the previous calendar year. there’s a supplemental application with a deadline that varies slightly, so you’ll want to take a look at that as well.

    the catch is, you’ll want to do this before you hit second year– if you’re serious about transferring, it’s safest not to wait. daniels won’t take anyone with more than 10.0 credits or full-course equivalents, i guess because then your degree will be half done and there’s not really much point. on top of this, you can only get up to 5.0 transfer credits, equivalent to one fall/winter session’s worth of classes.

    sorry for the long and dry post but hope this is helpful! internal transfers can get complicated and i would highly recommend you talk to someone in-person about this as well. good luck with it all, though, and if you have any more questions feel free to send them in!

    to end the post off, here’s a smol painting dolphin with more artistic talent than me:



  • internal transfer,  prereqs,  psychology,  UTSC

    an interesting conundrum

    Hey there,

    I’m a third year psych specialist at St. George. I recently received an acceptance for internal transfer at Scarborough. I took PSY201 in the summer of my first year and remember nothing of it. Scarborough has PSYB07 as a requirement, which that excludes PSY201 (which I took), so I will have to take the next PSYC08 or PSYC09. I am not confident at all in taking these courses since I remember nothing from my first stats course. How much do I have to remember to take them? Will I be lost? Is there anyway they will let me take PSYB07 and start over?

    Please help!!



    wow an interesting conundrum; actually WANTING to take a prereq even though you’ve been excused. most people wanna skip any prereq that they can. hat’s off to you, m’dude.

    unfortunately for internal transfers, or people transferring to u of t from another university, you can’t forfeit your transfer credits, unlike IB/AP credits. so, it looks as though you will have to take PSYC08/09 without taking PSYB07.

    however, it may be a good idea to get in contact with the department of psychology at utsc to see IF (and i strongly emphasize IF!!!!!!) they can make an exception for you.

    i hope that helps!

    and justice for all suffering GIF




  • computer science,  internal transfer,  physics,  UTM

    the ol’ switcheroo

    Dear Aska,
    I’m going to be going to UTM for computer science, as that was my backup choice and I got deferred from St. George.

    However, I still feel very strongly towards physics and I was wondering if it would be possible to take physics related courses at UTM and transfer/switch my major to physics at St. George after my first year or so.

    If so, when would I apply for an internal transfer and would I be able to switch my courses from a computer science major to a physics major if I were to take courses similar to someone majoring in physics as a first year?

    Thank You!



    you really should direct this question to someone at the registrar’s office at UTM. since you aren’t even in first year yet, meaning that you haven’t enrolled in any courses yet, you should meet with an academic adviser at the registrar’s office, tell them about your situation and that you’re thinking of transferring, and they’ll be able to give you advise on which courses that you SHOULD take in your first year.

    that being said, here is some more general info that i, a humble student blogger, dug up.

    taking physics courses as a “computer science” student is totally possible. and internal transfers are also possible.

    check out this page for all the info needed to transfer to the faculty of arts and sciences (scroll down to “transferring from another u of t faculty or campus).

    it is also possible for you to take physics courses at UTM and then transfer to physics at st. george. one thing that you should be aware of is the program requirements and whether or not they’re different between the two campuses. i suggest that you take a look at the first year physics courses offered at UTM, see what their st. george equivalents are using the transfer explorer, and then see how many of the st. george program requirements you will have fulfilled with your UTM transfer credits.

    if there are courses that you need for physics at st. george that you can’t take at UTM in your first year, you can always try to transfer after your first year and then take those courses when you get to st. george.

    i really hope that helps! good luck, my young friend.

    spongebob squarepants good luck GIF



  • internal transfer,  UTM

    keep calm and (cat) slide on

    I’m currently a first year student at UTM and I was wondering if it’s possible for me to transfer to UTSG. I haven’t been able to find much information about this online. How competitive is it?
    If one of the required courses for the program I want to enroll in at UTSG isn’t offered at UTM what do I do? Can I do that course after I transfer?



    yes, it is possible for you to transfer from UTM to UTSG. how competitive it is, as i’ve mentioned MANY TIMES NOW, it’s all based on the pool of applicants in any cohort. you can check out this link for more information. you can also contact enrollment services, who would have the most up-to-date and accurate information about transfers, enrollment, and recruitment.

    if one of the courses you need for your desired POSt at UTSG isn’t offered in UTM, you can definitely take it when you get to UTSG. just remember that you wont be able to enroll in your desired POSt, so you’ll have to enroll in (a) placeholder program(s). you can check out the transfer explorer to see what the UTSG equivalents of your UTM credits are, you may actually have the required courses for your desired POSt and can just enroll in it once you transfer.

    i hope this was helpful, i know that there isn’t much info out there on internal transfers. i would suggest making an appointment with the registrar at UTM to discuss transferring since they’ll be able to give you more personalized information and point you towards other resources.

    good luck! may your transfer be smoother than this guy’s:

    cat lol GIF by America's Funniest Home Videos



  • internal transfer,  transfer credits,  Transferring,  UTM

    adventure from utm to utsg

    I’m currently a first year student at UTM and I was wondering if it’s possible for me to transfer to UTSG. I haven’t been able to find much information about this online. How competitive is it? If one of the required courses for the program I want to enroll in at UTSG isn’t offered at UTM what do I do? Can I do that course after I transfer?




    it is possible to transfer to UTSG. here is a link to the transfer page with all the information needed. just scroll down to where it says “transferring from another u of t faculty or campus”.

    unfortunately, i have no idea how “competitive” it is as it is dependent on each year’s roster of applicants. try getting in contact with enrolment services, who would have the most up-to-date and accurate information about other applicants and enrolment.

    if one of the required courses for the POSt that you want to enrol in at UTSG isn’t offered at UTM, you could check out the transfer explorer. some of the course codes may be different between campuses, so you may actually have the required courses. basically, type in the course code at UTM and it will show you what the equivalent course is at UTSG, if there is one. if there isn’t one, it will show you what you can get for it instead (for example, a breadth credit).

    if that doesn’t really work out and you still need to take the required course, you can definitely take it after you transfer.

    i hope this is helpful! good luck on your transferring adventure.

    excited the lord of the rings GIF



  • internal transfer,  Transferring,  UTM

    don’t let your dreams be dreams!!

    Can I transfer from UTM to UTSG in my fourth year to the same department? So my specialist is Biology, can I do the same in downtown? Thanks!



    unfortunately, i’m not 100% sure whether or not utsg would accept you as a fourth year student. i would get in contact with enrolment services and see what they say. they may deflate your dreams, but you never know!

    if you were to transfer and get in, you might not be able to be in the same subject POSt or combination of subject POSts. because the program requirements at utsg are slightly different than those at utm, you might not fulfill the requirements for the equivalent program that you were in. the selection of programs is also slightly different from campus to campus, so your specific program (or program combination) might not even exist at utsg! check out the program calendar to see what the requirements are for the program that you’re interested in. i just said program a lot.

    enrolment services can help you figure out what kind of program you could get into if you transferred over from utm, but i would also consider talking to the registrar at utm. they’d have tons of info too.

    don’t let your dreams be dreams, dude!

     personal shia labeouf motivational just do it just saying GIF



  • admissions,  choosing,  internal transfer,  other schools (boo!),  UTM

    the bias is real

    Okay, I know a lot have talked about it but I hope you bare with me a bit.

    The whole idea of studying in Canada started in Feb, and I have registered
    in multiple universities, the ones which didn’t reach their deadline yet,
    one of them is UofT. Sadly I didn’t make it to UTSG deadline but I have
    registered for UTSC and UTM, in Computer Science (and my April IELTS exam
    result getting held back for a randomly selected measuring didn’t help
    my lateness). But yesterday I got admitted in UTM as UTSC have “reached
    enrolment capacity”.

    I’m expecting an admitting from the University of Alberta too.

    Now, I would love to go to UofT but I’m not happy with the being in UTM,
    less range of courses, most the events will be on the main campus, far from
    downtown, need an off-campus residence, and as an international student, I
    need a good social life and being off-campus won’t help.

    How easy/what’s the chance for me to transfer to UTSG, what should I do and
    not do to ease the transfer, and does the tuition fees differences a lot
    between the two campuses?

    Or should I just stick to UAlberta? (with their on-campus residence)

    If I wouldn’t be able to transfer to UTSG I’ll go to UAlberta without a
    second thought.

    I know there isn’t a right answer to this but any thoughts and advice would
    help, cause I can’t stop thinking about it and I don’t know what to choose.




    seeing as though this is askastudentuoft, it’s highly unlikely i’m going to tell you to go to ualberta because that would go against everything we believe in. like, do you really think i’m going to say: “yeah man, go to ualberta, they’re so much better than us!”

    that being said, it’s really up to your own gut. you can definitely transfer to UTSG eventually. it’s called an internal transfer! we have tons of posts on internal transfers which will answer your question about how to do so and much more! i encourage you to look at those because there are only so many ways to say the same thing over and over again :/ to ease the transfer, you just have to work hard to get a good CGPA. what CGPA range are they looking for? it changes every year so you’ll have to ask enrolment services when you want to transfer.

    not sure what you’re going to be studying, but the UTM and UTSG tuition fees look about the same if you look here! colleges at UTSG have varying incidental fees but they don’t seem to vary by much. the fees website will have tons of info on international fees.

    UTM is a great school with a lot to offer. i think you’re being too hard on it. seriously, give it a chance. if your end goal is to end up at UTSG, being at UTM would definitely make the transition process much easier than if you were to transfer from ualberta

    another thing to consider is the city. do you want to live in edmonton or do you want to live in mississauga/close to toronto? i’ve never been to edmonton, but i know that toronto has a great deal to offer with its multiculturalism and places to explore! toronto is awesome.

    but hey, as much as we would love for you to come to U of T, we hope you make the right decision for yourself, even if it means going to another school!

    you know yourself better than anyone else. you are the only one who knows what you want and what you don’t want.


    peace and love,




  • applying for U of T,  computer science,  GPA,  innis,  internal transfer,  Transferring,  urban studies,  UTSC

    top secret internal transfer gpa’s

    Dear ask a student,

    I am in second year at UTSC and I am looking to transfer downtown for urban
    studies. In first year I took computer science and finish the year with a
    low GPA. Now in city studies after the first semester my sessional GPA was
    2.93 but my cumulative GPA is still below 2.5. Will they look over my first
    year since I am now doing better in City Studies and is there a chance I
    can still get in with just my recent GPA improvement?




    soooooo when UTSG is looking at internal transfer students, (students who are transferring from one U of T campus to another U of T campus) they will consider your CGPA and your most recent annual GPA. however, they will also have access to your whole transcript if they notice some inconsistencies in your GPA.

    in terms of GPA cut-off, i would check with the urban studies department directly to make sure you’re within the range. for some reason admission GPA’s for internal transfers are kind of top secret. they used to post them online, but i haven’t been able to find it ever since they revamped the future.utoronto.ca website. right now, the admission GPA’s are mostly circulated by word of mouth, but for entry into a specific program like urban studies, it would be in your best interest to just ask them!

    hope this helped!

    wishing you all the best in your transfer! hope we’ll be seeing you downtown!

    peace and love,