- hey dude! do you know if second years can take first year courses? i’m thinking about switching out of the humanities stream into life sci, but ill need to take bio120, bio130, chm135 + chm136 if i want to pursue the program i want (ecology major). do i need to take summer courses, or? is there a way i can take those first year courses next year? thanks so much!hey hey heyo (cringes a little because who sounds this much like a middle schooler on a tuesday? ridiculous.)you should be able to take first year courses as a second year, yes. this isn’t an uncommon situation to be in. do you need to do them in the summer? i’m not sure. i guess it depends on how anxious you are to get into the program– if you don’t mind waiting until next year’s program request period, you can definitely take those prereq courses during the regular school year.if you do decide to take a full summer courseload and get those courses under your belt sooner, you should be able to request admission to the EEB major for your second year. EEB seems to be a type 1 program, which is lucky for you because that’s the most lenient form of POSt in terms of admissions. you’ll be able to enrol in type 1 programs until september 23, 2020, by which time your summer courses should show up as completed.you might wanna just keep in mind that u of t won’t recognize any 100-level courses you take beyond 6.0 FCEs’ worth, at least as far as your degree or CGPA are concerned. after you take 6.0 FCEs of 100-level courses, any other 100-level courses you complete will be counted as ‘EXTRA.’ they’ll be invalid towards your 20 credits to graduate and can’t be used to raise (or lower!) your GPA, but you can use them for things like prerequisites and program admission. so that’s your one caveat. nothing to prevent you from taking more first-year courses, just something to be aware of. if you’re uncertain whether this rule will impact you in any substantial way, i’d recommend that you visit your registrar and have them check.hope this helped! and hope your new POSt is heckin’ incredible. proud of you for being brave enough to switch into something you find more interesting, even if it could possibly inconvenience you.be Boundless,aska
so i just finished my first year at utsg and i have applied to do a double major in equity studies and pharmacology. within the past couple of weeks i have been getting really really into physics (which is odd because i hated physics in high school). anyways im thinking that i want to switch into a biophysics specialist degree. the issue is, that i didnt take any physics or calculus during my first year and so i basically have to restart my four years. i was just wondering how i would go about switching to the physics specialist, do i just leave my current posts as they are and take the courses that i need for physics or do i have to drop my posts somehow or something else? not sure if this changes things but equity studies is a type one so ive already been accepted and pharmacology is type 3 so im still waiting to hear back on that one. (also do you have any tips on how to cope with the fact that i wasted an entire year and thousands of dollars)
and thank you in advance for your response!
nice job making it through first year! it’s a perfectly normal thing to see your interests shift at this point in your degree– i can definitely relate to that, although not to getting into physics.
to get the tedious part out of the way first– how would you go about making the change? i wouldn’t drop your POSts now, no. you need to be registered in some kind of valid program combination to be eligible for second-year course selection, so if you won’t be able to get into biophysics before fall it’s best to keep what you’ve got. think about your current programs as placeholders of sorts– ignore their requirements, and focus on taking the prereqs for your biophysics spec. then, when the program enrollment period rolls around, apply for biophys.
chances are you already know this, but if you took the prereqs for pharmacology, you may already have the chem requirement for biophys under your belt, at least for the most basic biophysics specialist. hopefully that makes things a little less overwhelming!
all the biophysics specialists seem to be type 1, which will hopefully make things a little easier for you. if you were switching into multiple type 2 or 3 progams, i would have advised you to apply for them first THEN drop your previous programs once you got in. just to be safe. but since yours is a type 1 and you’re switching into a specialist, that makes things a lot simpler. you’ll be able to register in biophys before dropping equity and pharm, as ACORN allows you to be in a maximum of 3 POSts at once.
how to cope with the fact that your first year didn’t ultimately feed into your POSt? we’re fed this myth that we all need to finish our degree in four years, and that absolutely everything in our studies must count or serve a purpose or lead to a job. i’m still wrestling with this myself, because i’ve internalized that expectation. but no. everyone has their own time, their own path. this just happens to be yours. maybe it sounds wishy-washy, or cheesy, or whatever. either way, there’s nothing you can do to erase your first year and do it over, so from here all you can do is keep moving forward. i can understand if you’re bummed about it. though. i guess from a financial standpoint especially, it can be difficult to move past.
despite not knowing you personally, i’m real proud that you’ve acknowledged where your passions lie and are willing to pursue them, even if it might not be the most convenient thing to do. so much changes when your course content gets you excited. i don’t know what this past year has been like for you, but if it’s been rough then this might be what you need for study motivation.
i know several people who totally switched their programs when first year was over, and even one who switched faculties AND universities after her second year. everyone who i’ve seen go after something new has been really successful in their current program of study, so much so that it’s hard to imagine what things would have been like had they succumbed to inertia. i think a lot of this has to do with the fact that they followed their interests, and care a lot about what they’re studying now. maybe that’s where you’ll be in a year’s time.
wishing you all the best, friend! i think you’re brave.
over n out,
hi, I recently got accepted into uoft- ccit major, but I want to change my major to finance or commerce, do I need to finish my freshman year first and then transfer programs or can I directly do it. I’m an international student and I’m so lost since there is no one to explain how the system works at uoft.
i feel ya. u of t is a maze of a bureaucracy– even those of us who are from around here and have been at the school for a while are constantly confused. it’s just one of the joys of going to a big, complicated school. navigating it is a lot like this:
but hey, i’ve sifted through all the CCIT stuff on the internet in an effort to help you out. as far as i can tell, the program works the same way as most other POSts. which is to say, you’re not actually a CCIT student (or a polisci student, or a chemistry student, or ANYTHING sigh) until you apply for POSt. this is also reflected in the fees you pay: i believe CCIT tuition is higher, but you only begin paying that in second year when you become a CCIT student.
if you’re not familiar, POSt stands for Program of Study, and it’s essentially another hurdle all students of certain faculties need to jump once they get into undergrad. you apply to POSt at the end of your first year, and most of them have prerequisite courses you’ll need to get in. those courses are usually what you’ll focus on getting through in your first year.
so as far as i know, if you wanted to transfer to finance or commerce you’ll just want to make sure you have the right prereqs, and then when you apply to POSt just indicate whichever program you want. one of the things i love about u of t is that it’s relatively easy to switch programs around as long as you have the prereqs. for example, if i was studying… indigenous studies and wanted to switch to canadian studies, i wouldn’t have to fill anything out, just make sure i had the requirements and apply to POSt during the application period.
to be honest, i feel a little iffy with you using this as your only source of advice since i’m not ~that~ familiar with ccit as a program. i’d encourage you to get in touch with their department, because they’ll be able to confirm or correct anything i said. the university at large tends to operate in much the same way, but there are always those quirky niche programs that do their own thing and ccit could be one of those. the utm registrars may also be able to help you out.
over n out,
Im currently enrolled as a BSC specialist student, but want to change to a double major BA. I meet the transfer credit requirements for my double major BA and have the grades for it, so should the switch go smoothly? Thanks!
i’m a little confused by your question– you gotta be more specific!!!!
i assume that you’re a student in the faculty of arts and science and you’re trying to just switch from a science specialist to an arts double major? i’m just gonna answer the question as if that’s what you mean.
so, within the faculty of arts and science, you don’t need to “transfer” any credits over if you’re switching programs within the faculty. all you need to do is change your POSt. if, as you say, you’ve met the requirements for the arts double major that you want to switch into, then there shouldn’t be an issue with switching from a science program to arts programs. just don’t forget that if the program(s) you’re interested in is a type 2 or 3 program, you will need to apply by august 29th and if it’s a type 1 program, you have until september 19th to add the program on ACORN. check out this link for more info re: the dates and program types.
if you’re actually a transfer student from another school, campus, or faculty, then there’s a totally different process that i don’t really feel like detailing for you right now. check out our “transferring” tag for more information on that specific circumstance.
Hello! I am currently pursuing an Accounting Specialization and have decided to switch programs. By switching programs, does my GPA reset if I don’t use any of my past credits in my new program? Thanks.
so i’ve scoured the internet, looked through every u of t-sanctioned website, and basically the answer is… no. your GPA doesn’t reset if you switch programs.
according to the faculty of arts and sciences’ calendar, your GPA is the weighted sum of all the courses you’ve taken at the faculty of arts and sciences. this means that every course you take in the faculty, regardless of whether or not you switch programs of study, counts towards your GPA. bummer, i know.
however, there are certain marks that aren’t included in your CGPA (though you probably know this already!) this includes any courses that you take CR/NCR, transfer credits, credits that you took at another university on a letter of permission or on exchange, and any courses designated as “extra.”
the only way that you would be able to “reset” your GPA is if you transferred to another faculty, campus, or school. so, if that’s your case, congrats! your GPA is reset! if that’s not the case then, sorry, you’re stuck with your old GPA.
if there’s any confusion or you have any other further questions, you should get in contact with your registrar’s office, who’ll be able to answer this question (AND SO MUCH MORE!)
i hope this helps!
- the instructor(s) of some of my psy courses are yet TBA. im not saying i dont want ______ as my instructor but…. i dont want ______ as my instructor. if i cant change my schedule what do i do if hes the instructor of one of my lectures?——————————————hi!you have until september 20th to add an F/Y course. by then, you will know who the instructor is of that course and you can try to switch into a different lecture. other than that, there’s not much you can do, unfortunately.i hope it all works out! good luck!xoxo,aska
I’m doing a sociology specialist at the moment and entering my third year,
but I want to look out for other majors. I’m kind of interested in economics
at the moment, and want to take the two full year courses for the major
prerequisites. However, I don’t know how smart that is (taking 2 full year
courses just for the sliver of the chance of getting in) considering I’m
not very good at math or time organization – I had to climb up from a 0.8
GPA in first year because of a rough transition, and now my GPA and mental
health are more secure I want to try branching out. I also want to ask if
me being in third year affects my chances of applying to the program, since
so many incoming first years have probably gotten a head start.Thanks for
being in third year does not affect your chances of getting into the program at all, you can apply for a subject POSt up until you want to graduate.
as for whether or not it’s “smart” to take 2 full year courses in order to get into the major, i would definitely suggest at least trying. according to the department of economics’ website, you need both an ECO and MAT requirement and certain marks achieved in those courses. if you’re worried that it’s not “smart” because you’re bad at math and time management (which is extremely relatable to me), you could at least try enrolling in those courses, see how you do, and then drop before the deadline (this year, it’s november 6th for F courses and february 20th for Y courses). no harm, no foul.
if you’re really serious about enrolling in the econ major, you could also try taking just one of the courses this year or starting with both and dropping one if you need to. then, you could take them as summer courses later on or the year after. the only issue with that option is that it might further extend the time spent on your undergrad degree, but if that isn’t a big deal for you, then this is a good option in my (non-professional) opinion.
i really believe that you can achieve whatever you put your mind to, but also know that there are other options that you can explore if the initial plan doesn’t work out. i would also suggest making an academic advising session with your college registrar’s office. i’m sure they’d be able to help!
i hope this helps! good luck!
I am in third year currently, and one of my two maajors is environmental studies major (ASMAJ1254) I am attempting to plan out my academic future as practically as I can. I have been looking at the environmental ethics major (ASMAJ1107). I am more academically pulled towards the humanities and the philosophy courses offered with the env. ethics major. However, I want only to switch posts if this is a ‘smart move’ – which would mean the courses I have allocated thus far for my environmental studies major to transfer easily to a environmental ethics major.
Being in third year, I am fine with staying put in my env. studies major. However, seeing the requirements, for both, I wanted to know, if I can apply for a type 1subject post at any time. Is there any way I can (myself and not my registrar) map out, if I were to switch majors that are so similar, if Id be further along to my degree (meaning my env major courses thus far would have transferred) or if this would this set me back, with me needing to take extra courses, and thus be behind in post requirements?
Ive already written my registrar first for academic advice regarding subject posts, but until I go in to see them I thought Id ask here.
Thank you for your time!
thanks for writing in!
switch if you are more interested in environmental ethics! do it! if you’ve figured out what you like, just go with it.
whether or not it’s a smart move really depends on the courses you’ve already taken. you can definitely map out whether or not it’s logical with the picture below:
while i’m sure you’ve looked at the calendar already, having visuals is nice so i compared the requirements of the two majors for you. the highlighted courses are courses that are overlapped in both programs. as you can see, there is quite a bit of overlap, but again, you would have had to have taken only highlighted courses for there not to be any setbacks.
as for when you can switch: you can do this without the help of your registrar, however, i highly recommend that you schedule a meeting anyways, just in case you’ve missed something. it would suck majorly if you switched to a new major (lol) only to realize that you missed a requirement and need to take some extra classes. if that is the case, sometimes departments can make exceptions for you.
the subject post change period for a type 1 subject POst (environmental ethics major) will be between april 1st and september 30th, which means you can log onto rosi or acorn, drop your environmental studies major and then type in the appropriate code: ASMAJ1107 to apply.
since i don’t know what courses you’ve taken, i can’t map everything out for you, but i hope i’ve provided you with enough information as a stepping stone to figuring it all out.
if you have any further questions, do contact your registrar’s office for support!
peace and love,
Say, for example, I’m taking a Mathematical Proofs course (MAT102) but due to personal learning ability I wish to switch to a different lecture (i.e. LEC0102 to LEC0103). The time schedule and the material is the exact same in both lectures, the only difference is the room. Even though it is now too late to transfer to a different lecture, what would be the repercussions of me skipping my scheduled lecture and attending the other one instead?
If by repercussions you mean scary official university people who are going to track you down and punish you for your HEINOUS LECTURE SKIPPING, you’re probably not going to encounter that. Let’s be real, in big lectures, it’s fairly easy to slip out of one and into another. But is it a good idea?
At the end of the day, there are always going to be little differences between one prof and another, and your prof is the one who administers your tests/quizzes, so it might be a good idea to stick around in their lecture. They might emphasize different things from another professor, and when it comes to writing the tests, those things will come less easily to you than to your classmates. Also, you could miss out on important administrative information if you go to a different lecture.
If you’re really bent on going to this other lecture though, why not talk to that other prof and/or the registrar’s office about possibly switching into it? Your case is pretty specific and they might be able to accommodate you. Who knows? I’d say it’s worth giving a shot.
Hope you enjoy your class, compadre, whatever you decide.
I’m in my third year at uoft and had a double major in sociology and religion. I’ve decided that I don’t want to pursue religion anymore and instead want to take employment relations. The problem is that you need first year economics for it which I don’t have. The wait list for both Eco courses was in the couple hundreds. I have all the requirements of employment relations except for eco100 and the five other program requirements which I thought I could take next year. So my question is, do you think I should just go back to my original plan and take religion and complete my degree?? Or if I take eco100 in the summer do you think I would still be eligible to get into the subject post?? (Type two subject post are from mid may to end of my).
Thanks very much hope you can offer some sound advice.
According to the program requirements, Employment Relations only takes new students during the first subject POSt request period. That means you won’t be able to take ECO100Y in the summer and get in during the second period which normally is an option. And I take it that you didn’t get in to either of the first year ECO courses for 2012-2013, right?
Basically, you’ll either have to wait until you complete the ECO credit and request the POSt after that, or you can try very hard appealing to the program director. But Employment Relations is a Type 3 POSt, meaning it’s super competitive, so to be completely honest, I don’t think the latter option will do very much?
So your question: what do I think of this situation? Well, how strongly do feel about Employment Relations? If you want to be part of this program as badly as I want to go to Hogwarts and have the money and time, then take the extra year or two necessary! But, if you’re basically done with your Religion requirements, it might be more practical to just stick with what you have.
It’s entirely up to you though! Think about what you want and the practicality of it.
My name is Jack and I’m currently enrolled in BBA program in utsc but i’m not really happy in the program. i’m in 2nd year atm and i’m thinking about switching my major to political science but i heard alot of ppl saying if i do liberal arts degree i will never find a good job! is this true? should i just stick through it and do bba? please give me some advice and i have ask the academical advisor but all they do is tell me to take test! THEY ARE USELESS!!!! i just want your take on it and your knowledge of ppl in liberal arts and if they have found good jobs or not!
What kind of a test is this, exactly? Is it an IQ test?? Because I’m pretty sure you just made up the word “academical.” That’s kind of cool, though, because it means that you’re creative and out-of-the-box of real words. I’m getting a soft, marshmallowy liberal arts degree, so I’ve often wondered which of Toronto’s fine bridges I will one day be living under. The Prince Edward Viaduct is a clear front-runner. Let’s consult a list of famous liberal arts graduates, shall we?
Prince Charles of England has an anthropology degree; Martha Stewart has a history degree; and Hugh Hefner has apsychology degree.
As you can see, Jack, graduates in the liberal arts grow up to lead successful lives in royalty, celebrity crime, and the adult entertainment industry. If any of these fields interest you, I would advise immediately switching into the arts.
This list also tells us that, in the liberal arts, your degree isn’t tied to any one specific job. Instead, employers focus on what skills you have and on how well they fit into their job description. According to the Career Centre’s helpfully misleading?list of “careers by degree”, a political science degree can lead to work as a lawyer, police officer, or member of the clergy! You should totally drop out of business school and adorn the devout and divine robes of righteousness.
Or, you can make this decision rationally. First of all, what is it that you dislike about your Bachelor of Business Administration? Is it the heavy workload or is it the course material itself? If the former, you might be clonked over the head with hard classes in other degree programs. Second, why is your alternative political science? Why not international development studies, french, or even the celestial studies of astronomy??
You seem to care most about getting a job. If that’s the case, having a BBA degree will be a direct route into the business world. While a liberal arts degree certainly won’t get in your way of growing up to be the next Mick Jagger (anthropology), your path to career rockstardom will be less straightforward and more windy. Like the yellow brick road.
Either way, you’ll always be a rocktar to me.
I am an offer holder at University of Toronto Mississauga for Bcomm and I
want a major in Accounting.I wish to pursue a CA degree in the future. I
wanted to know whether I can transfer from Mississauga to St.Geroge in my
Your prompt reply will be highly appreciated.
Whoa, thanks! Your greeting has gone a long way in making me feel much less like the extreme dirtbag I know myself to be.
It’s possible to transfer to UTSG for Commerce in your second year, and it’s definitely too late to “backtrack” on your offer and apply there now. Keep in mind that internal transfers between schools are often a major headache and aren’t 100 percent easy to do. (It’s one of those things where you think it would be a lot less complicated than it is.) If you thinking about switching, talk to Admissions and Awards at the end of your first year, and study up on the requirements to meet the Commerce subject PoSt online. Some of your credits may not transfer through, so be wary. But for enjoy your first year at UTM and my respect of YOU, sir.
This site has been EXTREMELY helpful! Thanks so much !
I’ve recently been admitted to UTM as an international student and have accepted my offer since then. I’ve also been doing some research and asking around, and many (if not most) of the responses I have gotten are starting to make me worry. They all seem to point out that UTM is inferior to the main campus which I did not apply to, and that residence life at UTM is extremely boring and dead and that UTM is mostly international students. As well as that it is a commuter university, and that Mississauga is lifeless and there is nothing to do there. I can not visit the campus anytime before the academic year starts since I live halfway across the world, so I can’t really see for myself how the campus is and if I even like it. I really don’t want to be spending the next four years of my life in a place I can’t stand. From what I have seen in the university website, it seems really awesome which is why I chose it in the first place! As well as it’s academic excellence. I really like it, but i haven’t been there to judge. I have looked through every possible website for answers. But I just can’t seem to get any help. :S
Don’t listen to those haters. Anyone cool understands that university is what you make of it. UTM might be small, but it is very pretty (lots of nature wildlife), has an insanely vibrant student council and probably will be great once you get situated. Look at these promotional videos! Look at this cool list of clubs you could join!
Okay, that might not impress you much, which is why I’m going to suggest that you get in contact with the University of Missisauga Students’ Union, via Facebook.
They might be able to sell you on UTM, which it seems like you already loved before other people tried to convince you otherwise. You know that old saying, don’t knock it ’till you try it? Well you need to try UTM before you pull out. Doing internal switches at U of T is much harder than you might realize, but don’t think of it as a bad experience you are heading into – think of it as a possibly wonderful adjustment period.
Let me know what happens.