• St. George,  Transferring

    campus hopping

    January 23, 2014
    Hi,
    I was wondering if transfer within UofT (not hard to guess from where to UTSG) is also possible during the winter session. I know the dates are already over for this year, but supposing a student wanted to transfer downtown, but missed it during Fall 2012, would he be able to do it in the next semester? Would the rules be any different for a student in second year? For a student who, like many, is considering transferring to the “other” campus location, what would be a possible source of difficulty in enrollment and beyond?
    Thank you much.

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    hello. this is an old question. if you’d like to see why i am answering these BLASTS FROM THE PAST, please go here! thanks!

    aska

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    hey there,

    well, i’ll get the bad news out of the way first, like a merciful omniscient question-resolver: unfortunately, you can only register for the fall term. since many of uoft’s courses are full-year courses, it’s really not possible to be admitted mid-year. you can apply and get accepted for the fall and then only take winter term courses, but if you’ve missed the application date for this fall, you’ll have to wait until next year’s application dates for next fall. it sucks, i know, but that’s course logistics for you.

    are the rules different for second year? nope. everyone’s in the same boat. i mean it’s not like the university is PUNISHING you and only once you reach second year have you EARNED THE RIGHT to start in winter term. it’s just that starting in fall is the only time that it really makes sense. these “rules” aren’t just there to be arbitrary, annoying and bureaucratic. i know, it’s a shock. it’s ok. take some time to adjust to the idea.

    as for difficulties with enrolment, i can’t think of any obvious ones. as a transfer student from another canadian university, my switch into uoft was pretty smooth. as long as you meet the deadlines and requirements, you should be a-ok. there may be some kind of CONTROVERSY in transferring that i’m not aware of, and i’d suggest stalking the st. george tag if you wanna find out more about that, but for me, transferring and then enrolling/registering was actually really simple. who saw that coming, amirite? as for adjusting academically and whatnot, honestly, it won’t be that big a change. you’re coming from university to university; i wouldn’t start to panic just yet.

    good luck man (or whatever the past tense of that is – i hope you had good luck, i guess),

    aska

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  • OSAP,  Transferring

    osap being a lil’ butt: college transfer edition

    December 4, 2013

    hi aska,

    I’m a first year student at UofT and I’m planning on transferring to George?Brown next september (2014) to change programs. My parents suggested that I?should not attend school second semester so that we wouldn’t have to pay?for the next semester. So I went to my registrar yesterday (Nov.25) to ask?how i can officially unenroll from next semester and if there’s a way that?I can only pay for the current semester. The counselor told me to just drop?all my courses in ROSI (for next sem AND current sem) and I did. As for the?tuition, little did I know that the refund schedules would be so confusing?but I did get the gist of it and turns out it’s not as simple as just?dividing the tuition by 2. Since I didn’t drop my courses by a certain?date, I still have the majority of the tuition left to pay. The thing is?though, im with OSAP. Will I still be able to receive my second release of?funding in January or do I need to start panicking since I won’t be a?full-time student next sem? The counselor said something about writing a?letter to OSAP? Also, i do plan on attending school again next September so?do I need to worry about repaying OSAP six months from now since im?technically unregistered from UofT?

    ?????????

    hey there,

    disclaimer: i’m going to tell you everything i know about this, but as soon as you’re done reading, you need to march yourself over to enrolment services?and discuss this with them in detail. going to the registrar was a good move, but enrolment services will be able to tell you the exact next steps needed when it comes to osap and repaying, etc. etc.

    you’re very right about your tuition payment not just being a division by two. if you want to know the logic followed when it comes to refunds and things, take a look at this lovely lil’ document.

    now here’s the part that’s gonna sting: you probably won’t receive your second payment because you won’t be a full-time student any more (i told you). also, since you’ll be out of school for eight months, you will probably be required to start paying back after the 6 month grace period. i say ‘probably’ because there is a possibility that your payments can be alleviated or suspended entirely for those two months. take a look here?and here?to explore that – and then once you’ve done that, go and ask enrolment services – and maybe even national loan services if need be – about it for a definitive answer, ’cause goodness knows osap’s website is horrible.

    so, in sum: probs won’t get second payment (i know, osap is a butt. i’ll keep calling it a butt because i try to be pg on this blog), talk to enrolment services, you can maybe apply not to have to start paying the loan back in 6 months’ time, talk to enrolment services, maybe contact national loan services for further information and talk to enrolment services.

    best,

    aska

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  • Transferring

    employment relations what even is that (Question #2 from THE PAST WHOA)

    November 14, 2013

    hello. this is an old question. if you’d like to see why i am answering these BLASTS FROM THE PAST, please go here! thanks!

    aska

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    Hi,
    with a B average from UMontreal (industrial relations), how hard would it be for me to be admitted in second year in Employment Relations?

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    hey there,

    i am ashamed to say that when i read this question, i didn’t even know what employment relations was. after doing a bit of poking around, i realized that it’s actually a real, thriving program at uoft! just goes to show you…that…i’m an idiot, basically.

    however, transferring from U of Montreal with a B average means you?just meet the requirements. You need to have finished first year with an overall average of 76% and be granted at least 4.0 transfer credits in order to be eligible, including 1.0 in micro or macro economics, and 1.0 in sociology.

    if you’ve got all that in the bag, transferring over shouldn’t be too big of a problem! good luck, and i hope to see your smiling face on campus soon (except not really because this question is old lawlz oops).

    aska

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  • CR/NCR,  dropping courses,  Transferring

    traitor.

    November 7, 2013

    Hi aska!

    I’m a student at UTM planning on transferring to a different university next year. I applied and my transcripts have been sent and everything! But?there’s this one course (that one course ugh) that will bring my GPA down. I selected the credit/no credit option for that course, but not before the?transcript was already transmitted to the university I applied to. Would they even see the credit/no credit option on the transcript? Or would they?see my grade in the course regardless?

    Also how bad would it look on my transcript if I were to drop that course now….

    Cheers,
    I want to leave.

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    hey there,

    firstly, I am INCREDIBLY INSULTED that you’re transferring. How could you transfer. How. Could you. I thought we had something special. The other school’s thinner than me, isn’t it? ISN’T IT?

    Ahem. It’s fine. No, don’t worry. I’ll be fine.

    As to your (traitorous) dilemma, basically, if you’ve sent in a transcript in september or october, all your courses are going to show up as ‘in progress’ to the school you’re applying to. So whether you selected credit/no credit before or after sending it, it’ll look the same to the other school. If this is the only transcript they require, then it really doesn’t matter how the course turns out.

    However, if you have to send another transcript once the term is over, then they will see that you made it credit/no-credit, and they will see if you’ve dropped the course. Generally, unless that course is a requirement for you to transfer, dropping it is probably going to be a better idea than having a bad mark show up on your transcript. It really depends on your situation though, so I’d suggest talking to the UTM registrar’s office or maybe the admissions office at your new school about your situation.

    good luck you uoft-betraying swine. I hope the other school is good enough for you sheesh.

    aska

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  • Transferring,  UTSC

    Jumping ship to UTSG

    November 4, 2013

    Hi askastudent,

    I currently go to UTSC, I wasn’t accepted to UTSG so they gave me an acceptance to UTSC. I’m in my first year and im not enjoying UTSC for various reasons. If I want to transfer to the downtown campus how good do my grades have to be? Like do they focus on that as much since i already go to University of Toronto, or will the fact that i wasn’t accepted to my preferred campus hinder me?

    Thanks!

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    hey there,

    Your previous application shouldn’t hinder this one at all. When you apply, the only thing you’re sending over is your transcript from first year, so that’s the only thing they’ll be considering.

    That’s pretty good news, but here’s even more: generally speaking, your high school grades have to be higher in order to be accepted than your university grades have to be in order to transfer. The reasoning for this is really simple and something you probably know already: university is harder than high school. An 80% in a university class might have equalled to above a 90% in high school, so your grades don’t have to be super competitive if you’re just applying to transfer.

    It might also be good to know that when you transfer from one uoft campus to another, your grades are kept on your transcript. When you transfer in from another university, your grades aren’t incorporated into your uoft cGPA, but coming from UTSC, your grades will be retained. Which can be good or bad I guess, depending on how you did in first year. But I just thought I’d letcha know, ’cause I’m a good friend like that.

    aska

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  • Transferring

    aska’s guide on leaving your current university for the bamf that is uoft

    September 11, 2013

    Aloha~

    So it’s that time of a the year again.

    That lovely time when people settle for the school they got into and pine for something better. Something bigger. More congested. More expensive. More difficult to get into classes and get to classes. Something harder or more likely to raise their stress levels.

    They pine for U of T.

    That said, considering the weirdly huge number of questions ?I have sitting in my inbox on how to transfer from x university, I’m just going to make a very general sort of guide on how to make it to the promised land!

    HOW TO TRANSFER TO UOFT:

    Step 1: Decide your current school is lame.

    Step 2: Realize that if you have any hope of making it through one of the greatest research institutes in the country, you should be damn well capable of doing your own research.

    But doing your own research should take you to the lovely Admissions quiz thingie!

    Step 3: Naturally, you apply.

    I guess you do that through OUAC… This will probably require some transcripts and stuff, so make sure you get those.

    Step 4: Sit tight and wait.

    Step 5: When you get admitted, FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON YOUR LETTER.

    FOLLOW THEM.

    FOLLOW THEM.

    You’ll be given a spiel about what to do receive transfer credits and get into programs that you don’t technically have the prerequisites to. You’ll have to show the transfer credit office outlines for the courses you want credit for and indicate to them which Subject POSts you’re interested in.

    Step 6: Wait for confirmation about your transfer credits. That’ll happen around… June? July? It’s really a case-by-case basis sort of thing.

    A great thing for some of the typical first-year courses students indulge in (e.g. chem, bio, etc.) is that there’s this agreement of sorts between seven universities in which they all basically agree to accept each other’s version of x course.

    Step 7: I think that’s it.

    Yeah. Yeah that’s pretty much it.

    So there ya go!

    happy transferring,
    aska

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  • Transferring,  UTSC

    last second switching

    August 15, 2013

    Hi,

    I am entering UTSG as a first year student in the fall. However, I wish to transfer to UTSC before the school year begins. On OUAC, I applied to both UTSG and UTSC and was accepted to both campuses. Is it possible for me to transfer now?

    Thanks in advance,
    Jay

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    Hey Jay,

    At this point, transferring is a bit of a long shot, so all you can really do is contact Enrolment Services (and maybe even UTSC) and hope they can do something for you.

    If all else fails, however, you can always just complete a year at St. George and then do an internal transfer. If your grades are decent enough, UTSC will take you for the following year.

    Cheers!

    aska

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  • Transferring,  UTM

    playing hard to get with utm

    June 25, 2013

    Hi there, i got accepted to UTM but i didnt choose your school. Howver, im planning to make a transfer to UTM next year. My program is Life Science, so i want to ask what are the requirements for Life Science level 2 in UTM? Please reply me as soon as possible

    Thank you

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    Yo yo

    Lol I love the sense of urgency attached to a message that won’t be relevant for another six months of so.

    So the best thing for you to do is to check out the calendar and see just what Life Science program you’d like to be in. “Life Science” is just a stream that you start off in, whereas you can delve a little deeper into molecular biology or whatever suits your fancy.

    Next… just take the typical staple courses at this other university. There’s no set list of required courses once you’re transferring from another university.

    Take bio and chem and whatever you think might be relevant — and make sure you do well in them. The minimum grade you need to get the credit transferred over is 60%, but make sure you do super well so that the program will consider this transfer credit for entering their major/specialist.

    Just take into account that everything you want might not be transferred over!

    Also, transferring tends to be an expensive, tedious, and laborious task, which brings me to what’s just totally baffling me: why the heck did you not just choose UTM?

    xoxo,
    aska

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  • Transferring,  UTM

    in need of innis

    May 27, 2013

    hey aska!

    so i was just refused admission to the st. george campus but they offered me admission at UTM. i was just wondering if i were to transfer to st. george next year, will i have the same college preferences? like, i would REALLY like to get into innis but that’s already so hard to get in so if i were to transfer, would my application have equal consideration amongst, say, new undergrads.

    cheers!!!

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    Hey hey

    As far as I understand, logically, you shouldn’t have the same preferences any more. If you applied and were rejected, that application process is done, right?

    So when you apply for your internal transfer, just re-rank your colleges and set Innis to numero uno once again.

    Now your application will definitely have equal consideration as say someone coming from high school, so despite Innis’s tiny size, you won’t have too much trouble getting into Innis College as long as you rank them first. Honestly, Innis isn’t hard to get into. The RESIDENCE can be hard to get into because it’s in such high demand, but for the most part, if you rank them as number one on your application you should be fine.

    But I can’t blame you for wanting to get in to Innis. It rocks.

    clearly an innisian,
    aska

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  • criminology,  Transferring

    cross the country for criminology

    May 7, 2013

    Hi askastudent,

    I am currently enrolled in an university in Vancouver, and I want to transfer to U of T (St. George) Criminology. Is it easier to transfer to social science than to other departments? Do you know how many people apply for criminology and how many people does U of T accept each year? My first term GPA is 3.17, second term is 3.4 and CGPA is 3.3 (all on a 4.33 scale). I was wondering what are my chances of getting in?

    Thanks!

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    Hey hey!

    According to admissions, most things that you’d be transferring to all call for the whole “solid B average,” so you SHOULD be fine. If we do the conversion, your CGPA becomes the equivalent of a UofT B/3.0, so yeah!

    Now the hard part would probably be getting into the criminology major specifically. So on your application, as a transfer student from another university, criminology requires you to indicate them as your program of study. Then they ask for an overall average of 76%. You also need to have been granted at least four full transfer credits, half of which must be a combo of intro level courses on economics, history, philosophy, poli sci, psych, or sociology.

    Seeing as you meet the minimum requirements, you have a chance to get in, but you ARE still competing with a lot of students, so I’d try to bump up that GPA as much as possible.

    Good luck though!

    xoxo,

    aska

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  • Transferring,  UTM

    if you can hold a fork…

    May 6, 2013

    Hi there! I just finished my first year at UTM. I failed a full year course and as a result I finished with only 3.0 credits. Im very confused because I know that I cannot apply for a subject Post now since I do not have 4.0 credits and I wonder how that will affect me. Can I apply in December after first semester second year? Also summer school is not an option for me as I have to work to save for second year so I can’t get a credit in summer school and catch up. Another thing I would really like to transfer to YorkU but again I dont have the 4.0 credits. Does this mean I will have to wait until after second year? I really want to get a bachelor of education but since Ive messed up so much in first year I can’t do that at UTM which is why I would like to transfer. If I have to wait until after second year to transfer, what subject posts should I apply for until then so that I can still be working towards the degree in education even though that is not my program? Im sorry if some of these are silly questions but I feel like Ive gone into university blind and I’m making my own path as I go along.

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    Yo.

    Okay so Subject POSts work so that you enroll after a full academic session. Meaning there won’t be any applying until next summer soooo sorry about that. At least you don’t have to worry about what program to pick, right?

    Annnnnd well I don’t really know anything about York (UofT ftw!), but I mean they DO word the requirement as “completion of at least 4 full-credits” — “completion” being the key word here. Technically, you did complete four courses. Maybe not fantastically, but you certainly completed four! But you’re going to have to clear things up with them on whether or not you have to do a second year at UTM to satisfy their requirements.

    Cheers!

    aska

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  • Transferring

    trying to ditch dalhousie? well we want you!

    March 5, 2013

    Hi,

    First of all, thanks for taking my question.

    I was a student at Dalhousie until last April when I was academically dismissed for two years. I want to transfer to U of T and take some classes next year. How would I go about this? (if it’s even possible)

    I have heard of people writing letters and being reinstated. This might get me back to Dal, but then how would I get to U of T? Also, I would play football for U of T.

    Any advice is appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Sam

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    Hey Sam!

    Soooooo your issue proved harder to deal with than usual, by which I mean I actually had to call some people as opposed to the usual Google magic. Anyhow, the easiest way to put this is that UofT does not consider students for transfer if they aren’t in good academic standing at their current university. Thus, given your dismissed status, as much as you can attempt to appeal to the university… well, I think you know where that’s going. Sorry dude.

    But maybe you should use the time off and consider whether or not university is really for you. Or maybe you can work. Or travel. Or learn how to play guitar. Or violin. Yada yada yada.

    Cheers!

    aska

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  • Transferring

    bye bye bc!

    January 23, 2013

    Hi there,

    I have a question regarding a student transferring from UBC to U of T.? He is a geology specialization major currently enrolled in his second year.? He was hoping to withdraw for the current semester and take some electives at U of T in the summer, then join the regular semester in the fall.? Does he need a certain amount of transfer credits to be eligible to do so?? U of A said he would need 18 but if he withdraws for the current semester he will only have 12.

    Thanks so much for your help!
    Autumn

    ?????????

    Autumn,

    Nope, you don’t need a specific number of credits to transfer here.

    But your situation is a little tricky. Doable, yes, but weird and tricky.

    Admissions at UofT are always for September. What this means is that assuming this student is admitted, his registration will work for courses in the 2013-2014 school year. But if you want to take courses in the summer, what you’ll have to do is apply to take some at UofT as a “visiting student” where technically he’ll be recognized as a UBC student, but he can still take courses and get some grades. And then assuming he’s admitted into UofT for the fall, those courses he took in the summer will become “retained credits” and still count towards his CGPA and even his program requirements.

    Now that might have come off as mildly confusing, but here’s the gist of it: to take summer courses (enrollment being in April), you’ll have to do so as a visiting student, but come admission in September, those credits taken earlier will still count.

    Sound good? Good!

    Best,

    aska

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