• current student,  dropping courses,  tuition

    courses, tuition, and google classrooms but not really

    hello first year student here! I haven’t started fall 2022 semester yet and wanted to know if I could drop a course I’m enrolled in without paying the tuition for that course (stupid question but I wanted to make sure). also, is there a website for students to use when professors post class materials and such (like google classroom but not really)?? Thanks!


    hello hello hello!

    so the way that tuition works is a bit weird. if you take 4.0 – 6.0 FCEs (full course equivalents for you newbies) in the fall/winter year, you’ll pay the program fee. so whether you’re taking 4.0 or maxing it out to 6.0, it doesn’t matter, financially β€” you’d pay the same tuition.

    if the courses you drop bring you down to 3.5 or less FCEs total, you can pay course fees, which depend on your number of courses, and ends up being cheaper per course. everyone is charged the program fees at first, and the extra amount for students on course fees will be refunded later in the year.

    but be careful: if you are planning to switch from program fees to course fees, make sure to drop your courses by the last date to enrol in them, otherwise, theyΒ will still be counted in your total course count. for example, a fall session course has to be dropped by the last day to enrol in F (fall) courses, which is september 21st this year. if you have any concerns or questions about this, definitely check out your registrar for advice because it can be tricky to keep track of all the different dates and how the payments work and everything.

    in terms of the course materials and stuff, yes! it’s called quercus and it literally is google classrooms but not really. uoft just had to get a ~quirky~ name for our whole oaks and acorns theme.

    i wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve started getting bombarded by email notifications from quercus already but don’t worry if you haven’t, because profs are slow, and you will be hearing from them… soon. πŸ™‚

    best of luck!

    aska

  • current student,  dropping courses,  repeating course

    third time’s the charm

    Hello! I have an urgent question, I am currently on my 3rd year of study and one of my courses I need to take to graduate needs a first year prerequisite which I took back in my first year and got a very low mark and dropped it, now I’m taking it again I am failing it again, can I drop it again and retake it during the summer of 2022 after I had taken a refresher course for it? Or will that show up in my transcript now because I have dropped it twice?


    hello there!

    to my knowledge, you should be able to drop the course and take it again in the summer. there are limits for retaking courses that you have already completed, e.g. to get a better mark, but as far as i know, if you’ve just dropped the course both times without completing it, whether it be a normal withdrawal or late withdrawal, that shouldn’t have any impact on enrolling in it again in the future.

    fyi, the deadline to withdraw from winter session courses is coming very very soon on march 14th (4 more days!), so hope this gets to you in time! after that you can also apply for late withdrawals or cr/ncr on winter and year-long courses until april 8th.

    hope this helps! if you have any other questions, definitely reach out or try booking an appointment with your registrar, who can provide more advice specific to your situation.

    best wishes,

    aska

  • CR/NCR,  dropping courses,  late withdrawal

    to drop or not to drop

    Should I drop my course, I did really bad on my final but I was not able to mark it as credit no credit and now the deadline is over. I’m really scared that this will affect my grades and everything else. But if I drop it it will be such a waste of money that I would also regret. Please help me.


    hey there,

    i think this might be too late for utm and utsc, but if you’re going to utsg, you may be in luck this semester as the credit/no credit and late withdrawal deadlines have been extended to january 18, which is hopefully after all your marks have come out so you can make a more informed decision.

    hopefully, if you didn’t do as well as you’d hoped in that course, you’d still be able to cr/ncr it! but just keep in mind that the extended cr/ncr does not apply to program requirement courses, unless your course was one of those that had their final exams cancelled due to the new covid regulations (it seems like that’s not the case for you).

    if you need the course for program requirements and can’t cr/ncr it, i’d recommend seeing how much that course impacts your grades overall using a gpa calculator like this one. that might help you to decide if you’d like to late withdrawal the course. unfortunately, a late withdrawal does mean that your fees for the dropped course wouldn’t be refunded, and you may need to pay to retake the course in the future. it’s a tough decision, but i think ultimately it comes down to what mark you need from the course to meet your goals, and how feasible it would be for you to drop the course and retake it if needed.

    hope that was helpful in some way. i’d also recommend checking out some of the academic advising resources (here’s a list of resources in arts and science) on campus if you have any other concerns, they could definitely help out with questions about lwd and even financial aid or academic support which could be helpful if you end up needing to drop the course.

    best wishes,

    aska

  • dropping courses,  seminars

    the fine art of murder :O

    Hi! i hope you had a great new year! i was hoping you could clarify how dropping a course works. i may drop a course next semester after the first week, since i’m taking on a course load of 3.0 and figuring out which one to drop after the first week haha! is it as simple as going into acorn and un-enrolling? also, i’m a part of vic one! i want to take ITA197, and it says that it’s restricted to first years, which generally means that it’s a first year seminar course. that shouldn’t be a problem though, will it? i hope you can help out! πŸ™‚ thanks!! xx

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    hey there,

    happy new year to you, too!

    yes, dropping a course is as simple as going into acorn and clicking ‘drop course.’ there’s nothing more you need to do beyond that. you might want to just chat with someone at your registrar first if you’re worried about anything to do with funding or scholarships (or any other repercussions for dropping a course). but otherwise, you should be good to go!

    ITA197 (the fine art of murder) sounds very cool!

    i looked it up on the timetable and it seems like you’re not excluded from registration if you’re part of vic oneβ€”as in, there are no exclusions at all. the only restriction on enrolment is that you need to be a first year student, which i’m assuming you are since you’re in vic one.

    best of luck with your semester and i hope this helped!

    be Boundless,

    aska

     

  • dropping courses,  summer

    not too cool for summer school

    hello! i am currently taking 6 courses and am enrolled in 6 courses next term. however, my stress level is slowly (but surely) increasing. im thinking about taking 2 courses in summer school. how/where do i found out if my courses will be available in the summer? id like to know if they are offered in the summer before dropping out of the courses. thank u

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    hello!

    6 courses is an awful lot! if your stress levels are rising and you’re finding it difficult to keep up with 6 courses, it may be a good idea to drop one. i’m always an advocate for dropping things and making more time for yourself, your mental health, a hobby, and/or a job.

    unfortunately, the summer timetable isn’t released until mid-march, so i’m not 100% sure what courses they’re offering in summer 2018. however, you could check the timetable from the 2017 summer session.Β though there’s no guarantee that the courses will be the same, usually departments offer similar courses year to year.

    i’m sorry for this really slow response, i don’t know how relevant this answer will be now, but you have until november 6th to drop a F session course. so you’ve still got a little bit of time to think about it!

    i hope this helps. good luck!

     summer GIF

    xoxo,

    aska

  • dropping courses,  weirdness

    let’s not do that

    Dear aska,

    It got me curious. What happens when everyone drops one specific course that there is no students enrolled in the course any more in the middle of the semester? It is merely a hypothetical question.

    Thanks in advance!

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    hi,

    lol, that would be both hilarious and quite sad.

    disclaimer: everything i am about to say cannot be backed by actual facts, i’m merely hypothesizing.

    i honestly have no idea what would happen. i asked my colleagues who have been here decades longer than i have and none of them had everΒ heard of this happening at U of T.

    i hope that you’re only curious and that you’re not actually planning on organizing a course-wide drop because that would be pretty bad….a**.

    i’m assuming that the department would try to conduct some sort of an investigation into why this class sucked so much and then take the appropriate measures to make sure it won’t happen again. like i said, there really is no precedent for this kind of situation so you’re allowed to use your own imagination????

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    idk man.

    peace and love,

    aska

     

     

  • CR/NCR,  dropping courses,  late withdrawal,  probation

    always choose the option with the dog

    Hello Aska!

    I’m extremely frustrated and stressed at how much I’ve taken school for granted, so much that I’m now on academic probation! I’m currently taking 4 courses at UTSG and I know for sure I can not pass this one course. So I’m wondering if it’s possible to drop it before the deadline (Nov 6) without it harming my academic standing.

    Please tell me something good.. otherwise I’m quitting life and taking my dog and we are moving to the mountains and becoming mountain people

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    hello,

    first of all, i realize this answer may no longer be relevant, but i hope in the future you’ll direct your more urgent questions to a registrar! as much as i would like to answer everyone’s questions immediately, some questions do take more time to answer and as a result, it’s hard to answer questions in a timely manner.

    nevertheless, i will answer your question now so future students in your situation can benefit! dropping a course before the drop deadline will notΒ have an effect on your academic standing. yippee! i really hope you actually dropped it.

    if you ever miss the drop deadline, you have the following options, to credit/ no credit (or as some people call it, “see-ar, en-see-ar”), or to late withdraw from the course.

    to credit/ no credit (abbreviated as cr/ncr) the course is an option if you are doing poorly in the course and are not sure if you will pass. if you do pass, you’ll receive credit for the course and no grade. if you don’t pass, you won’t receive the credit. keep in mind, this only applies for courses that you don’t need for your program. you can cr/ncr up to 2.0 FCE’s. cr/ ncr deadlines are usually well into the respective semester and are listed in the ‘sessional dates‘ section of the arts and science website.

    to late withdraw (LWD) from a course is for situations in which you think you’ll fail and if you’ve missed the drop deadline and the cr/ncr deadline. it won’t affect your GPA and your transcript will just say LWD. Β you can LWD from up to 3.0 FCE’s. you’ll have to go through a LWD with your registrar and discuss what went wrong to prevent it from happening again. the deadline for late withdrawal is on the last day of classes in each respective semester, meaning dec 7th is the last day to LWD from an F course, and april 5th is the last day to LWD from S and Y courses)

    pro-tip: take a look at all the sessional dates and mark the dates for cr/ncr and LWD on your calendar. you never know when those dates will come in handy!

    registrar’s offices always get students saying, “well i didn’t know when the deadline was!” well, tough.

    moral of the story? keep in touch with your registrar’s office when you have an urgent situation. they’re a great help and don’t usually bite.

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    peace and love,

    aska

  • dropping courses

    drop ’em like their exams ARE WORTH 65%

    I seem to be in a bit of a Jam. I’m currently enrolled in 3 English courses this semester and with the upcoming deadline for dropping courses approaches on the 19th of November I’ve decided that I want to drop EngB05. I did it last summer but I ended up failing it and listed it under the credit no credit option so it’s listed as no credit on my transcript. Also I’m not doing so well in the other courses and might probably fail them both. I’m aware that if I drop one my 3 courses my status will probably change to part time but what are the possible repercussions of that? Also would it be wise to simply select the credit no credit option for the other two courses just as a precaution? and if I do would my cgpa for this semester simply be a 0.00 because I dropped B05 and failed both courses?

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    hey there,

    well, that deadline is long gone now. i hope you spoke with your registrar before dropping.

    i guess the major repercussions in this case kind of depend on your other courses. if you had dropped these three english courses before november 19th and you were not in any other courses, there wouldn’t really be any academic consequences. it would just mean you wouldn’t have a GPA for this semester and your fee situation might change.

    if you dropped them all after the deadline, you’d just have a bunch of LWDs on your transcript, which wouldn’t affect your GPA, but would require some explaining in future grad/professional school applications.

    if you failed two courses and dropped one, however, your sessional GPA would be a combination of those failing grades (and the grades in any other courses you took this semester). and if your CGPA drops below 1.60 after that, that means that you would go on academic probation.

    academic probation means that you have one semester to raise your GPA above a 1.60, or you’ll be put on suspension. if you are put on probation (you’ll receive an e-mail about it, and it’ll be noted on your transcript), then you have one semester to raise your GPA above a 1.60 before being suspended.

    if you do go on probation, i’d recommend you find some time to talk to your registrar’s office about it before starting next semester, so you go in with the best possible chance of getting out of probation.

    best of luck,

    aska

  • dropping courses

    drop that nightmare of a course!

    If I dropped a course before the deadline, will it show on my transcript/academic record?

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    hey there,

    what a timely and relevant question! and the answer is:

    nope

    the deadline to drop F courses from your transcript and GPA was november 8th. if you dropped before that, there will be no record that you were ever in the course on your transcript.

    after the 8th, if you drop the course, it is called a ‘late withdrawal‘ and will show up on your transcript as LWD. you have until the last day of classes to LWD, and you’ll just have to go in to your registrar’s office to do that (try not to do it on the very last day if possible, because it will be MADNESS in there – that’s a little inside tip for ya).

    cheers,

    aska

  • dropping courses

    i could sneeze out a 10% paper

    I remember reading that a certain % of the grade must be returned before the add/drop deadline… I can’t find it now, what is this %? Thanks

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    hey there,

    incredibly, they only have to return 10% worth of graded material before the drop deadline. here’s the red tape on it: “Instructors shall return by the deadline one or more marked assignments worth a combined total of at least 10% of the total course mark for H courses and 20% for Y courses.

    doesn’t seem like a lot to me. i could fluke my way through a couple of quizzes and get a decent mark out of 10%. doesn’t mean i’m gonna do so good on the 50% research paper.

    oh well. such is uoft.

    cheers,

    aska

  • dropping courses

    drop date, flop fate

    what happens if we drop a course after september 20? does this apply to winter courses as well? or can we drop them once the winter session comes around?

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    hey there,

    alright, so here are the important dates around dropping courses:

    september 20th: the day the waitlist drops for F and Y courses. from the 20th to the 27th, there will be a free-for-all where anyone (with the appropriate prerequisites) can sign up for courses if there is space available.

    september 27th: the last day to make changes to F and Y courses – that means that this is the last day you can enrol in courses. it is also the last day you can drop a course and expect a full 100% refund, if you’re on per course fees.

    november 8th: the last day to drop courses from your academic record and GPA. after this date, the mark will be recorded, or, if you drop the course, it will be noted ‘LWD’ for ‘late withdraw.’

    january 24th: the last day to add or change S courses.

    february 15th: the last day to drop Y courses from your academic record and GPA.

    march 13th: the last day to drop S courses from your academic record and GPA.

    hope that slew of dates clears up your confusion, friend. and in future, don’t be afraid to Google ‘sessional dates uoft’ and click on the first or second week – it’s not as tricky as you might think.

    cheers,

    aska

  • dropping courses

    drop ’em like they’re hot

    Hey! Right now I’m enrolled in 3.5 FCE for this year and I’m thinking to drop down to 2 FCE. When is the last day to do this? Thanks!

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    hey there,

    the deadline to drop courses without leaving any trace of ’em on your academic record is November 3rd for F courses, February 16th for Y courses and March 8th for S courses. take note of those dates now, folks, before it’s TOO LATE.

    cheers,

    aska

    P.S. a bit of unsolicited advice: keep in mind that a drop from 3.5 FCEs to 2.0 FCEs changes your status from full-time student to part-time student, which means a change in fees that you have to request, and possibly a change in your dealings with OSAP, if you get OSAP, though they’ll notify you of any changes if they happen.

  • dropping courses,  enrollment

    accidentally dropping a course

    Hello,
    I was enrolled in a summer course. I dropped this summer course thinking that I could take 3FCE’s next year as a part time student but it turns out that it is actually 2.5FCE. Can I be re-enrolled in this course? I realize that it is my fault for lack of due diligence. I’m kind of freaking out because I’ll have to pay the whopping flat fee next year if I cannot. I’m 3 courses away from my graduation πŸ™ Will my registrar be able to help me? How do I proceed?

    Thank you.

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    hey there,

    that sounds very stressful friend, but i’m afraid it’s all up to you now.

    you can re-enroll in the course, but you’ll have to do it yourself on ROSI (you’re able to add/change/drop F and Y courses until september 21st), whether that means adding the course or adding yourself to a waitlist. as for your payments, 3.0 FCEs is full-time, unfortunately, so maybe you’ll want to drop one of your other half-credits to get it down? whatever you decide, i don’t think the registrar’s office will be much help at this point.

    if you do decide to go part-time, you need to request to be dropped to per-course fees so they don’t charge you full-time. you can do that at this brand new-link from the faculty.

    best of luck,

    aska