Hi,

I am finishing my first year, and I have a couple questions about enrolling in subject posts.

1)? Is there a minimum amount of programs we can apply to? Also, can I? apply to, let’s say, a biology specialist AND a biology major AND a biology minor?

2) Can you explain the 12 course rule?

3) If I am taking courses in the summer that are prerequisites for a certain program, do I STILL apply during the first round, or do I only apply during the second round? Are there less chances of getting into the program second round?

4) Lastly, does it matter WHEN I apply, or does it not matter as long as it’s before the deadline? For example, if I applied on April 1st vs. April 3rd, do the spots get filled up? Does that mean I should apply sooner?

Thanks!

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Yo!

You didn’t go to any seminars on Subject POSts by your college did you?

Don’t worry. I can tell.

Well, here are your answers — all of which can be found quite clearly conveyed on a few key UofT sites!

1) You need to either be in one of the following: (a) one specialist,? (b) two majors, or (c) one major and two minors. And no. No you can’t do a bio specialist, major, and minor. They’re all the same program.

2) The “12 course rule” only applies if you’re doing a double major. Essentially, it means that among your two majors, you need to have 12 different courses and that only a certain number of other courses may overlap depending on the programs. Take a look at the same page I linked you at for some examples by the university.

3) Second round. Duh. And your chances are pretty much the same.

4) No. Your marks are what matter.

always doing the basic research for ya,
aska

Hey again, thanks for your reply

The POSt Im inquiring about is the Ethics Law and Society, and I think it is pretty likely that I’ll get in the second round. However, who knows, my grades may end up meeting the desired requirements and I can apply earlier. But if not, Ill take a F session summer course, then reapply, and if that doesn’t work, Ill take another summer course and reapply. Hopefully I get in. But if not, Im thinking of taking a double major in sociology and political science because checking the 200 type courses for next year, quite a few of them are in such categories. So I was asking if I were to do that, would the sociology and political science classes that are in ES&L transfer when I reapply in third year? Also, there is a couple other philosophy based courses for second year in ES&L. Even if im not priority, can I still try to get in then that will transfer too? And a friend told me the GPA requirement has increased quite a bit for ES&L but I dont know if thats true, but thats why Im worried. It should only be 75% minimum I think.

Thanks!

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Hey hey!

Looks like you’ve done your own research, embraced the lord of logic, and so on. Way to go. This pleases aska. Yes yesss. Ahem.

The program you’re enrolling in — I don’t know much about it, but I haaaave heard it’s difficult to get into. Granted, that came from a girl I know that applied after spending her first year indulging in debauchery et al soooo… But I also know that the department itself is just incredibly aesthetically pleasing. If you’re ever in Trinity and have made it past the deliciously buttery croissants of The Buttery, you should definitely scope out the bright and glassy department that is ethics.

But onto your questions. Yes, if you take, for example, PHL271H which is a requirement for the Ethics, Society, and Law major (or any sociology or poli sci course for that matter) while NOT being in the POSt, the course will still count towards the major once you get accepted in it. So if you find you can’t get in this year, fill up on the the random Group A/B/C/D courses that the major requires 4.5 FCEs from.

You MAY find yourself a victim to the dreaded priority limits, but after August 6, you’ll be free to enroll in the PHL courses you’re interested in.

Although if you end up being in a position of having to resort to random POSts to get by second year with, I recommend making one of those posts a philosophy major or minor since their requirements just seem to be 4.0 FCEs. Likewise, that POSt will give you priority in courses that you need for ES&L.

And lastly, the average thing… okay, well, according to the new 2013-2014 calendar, you need at least a 73%, I would recommend adding a bit to that since more often than not, the average fluctuates depending on the number of people trying to get in. So if there are a ton, the average can move to 75% like you said, but if there are a lot less than expected, then it can lower. But yeah, aim for as high as possible. 🙂

Cheers!

aska

I’m in my first year, and because of a bunch of stuff that went on, I’m afraid I probably won’t get my 4 credits required to apply for a subject post. When I looked at the website about subject posts, it says you have to choose one, “or else” kind of business. But seeing how I can’t, what happens? I know I’ll be stuck in first year, but do I have to talk to a counsellor about it? Or do I just pick courses again like I did first year? And when I do get my last credit needed, does that mean I pick u subject post after first term next year?
(I know this might be something I should talk to my college’s counsellor about, but I hate confrontation. ): )
Thanks, Kim

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Hey Kim,

I don’t know if you’ve heard, but the truth is… well, when first-years don’t finish at least 4.0 FCE and choose their Subject POSts, UofT actually sacrifices them to the Great Other who feasts upon their souls and then turns their lifeless corpses into little puppets that then lead future students into debauchery that prevents THEM from completing 4.0 FCE.

Liek srsly.

Nah, I’m just kidding.

If you don’t get 4.0 FCE then you just don’t. Simple as that!

You’ll just be picking courses again like you did in first year but with the new batch of first years, which might be problematic for you in that you might not get a spot in the 200-level courses you want soooo…

But if you do get that last credit, then yes, you’ll need to pick. Basically you enroll in Subject POSts after completing 4.0 FCE.

Or else.

xoxo,

aska