Are m(mixed courses) the same as u/c courses? (University/college)
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hey there,
yes! ‘university/college’ seems to be the terminology used by the ontario government in their 2013 curriculum. admissions at uoft refers to them as ‘M’ courses for ‘mixed,’ (as in MCV4M1 for mixed calculus) so that’s what i’ve been calling them, but they’re the same thing.
cheers,
aska
I read one of your posts a while back saying humanities wasn’t that hard to get into Why is it not that hard?
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hey there,
hmm. i don’t remember saying that (though it’s very possible i did – i do talk a lot).
obviously, the humanities as a field of study have been the butt of jokes since the time of Socrates (probably. i mean, i don’t know. i wasn’t around making fun of him, or anything). there’s a stigma that they’re easy.
and while the numbers seem to support that, generally, a slightly higher minimum average is needed to be eligible for admission to the life sciences and commerce than for other areas of study, the marks required to get into any stream at uoft are actually pretty even across the board.
so maybe the humanities aren’t that easy to get into. or at least, not so much easier than any other area. maybe all academia and critical thinking is equally valid and important. food for thought.
cheers,
aska
I read some articles on student awards about humanities and social sciences at u of t… They said you can’t get in unless you have an 85 average. So far I have a 96 in english and am planning for an 85 average overall. DO I NEED HIGHER?
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hey there,
i’m not sure which articles you’re talking about. also, do you mean ‘student awards’ as in awards at uoft, or ‘student awards’ as in the open online forum in which anonymous people can give answers about stuff? now, don’t get me wrong, forums can be incredibly helpful, but don’t take everything some anonymous student says as gospel.
don’t panic just yet, is what i’m saying.
you do need certain marks to be competitive, but trying to feel out what those marks are is best done through info directly from uoft. the university has no reason to be alarmist, unlike anonymous randos online. panicking students are no fun for anyone working at a university.
i’d recommend you read this and draw your own conclusions. while there are no guarantees, an 85% average is solidly within that ‘low 80s’ admission range for 2014 students.
(disclaimer that numbers change from year to year and that link is just a guideline, etc. etc. you cannot sue aska if you don’t get into uoft; i’m just a lowly student who eats far too many soda crackers for her own good, and i can’t make any serious promises).
cheers,
aska
Two questions: 1) which area has the most admissions on the st george campus 2) which is easier humanities or social sciences?
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hey there,
are you asking which stream is the least competitive? because uoft is silent as a dead cat about admission stats for undergrad arts & science students.
however, if you want to see how you may measure up to your peers, you can take a look at the anticipated grade ranges for fall 2014 in both the humanities and social sciences for incoming students. just remember that those numbers may change from now to whenever you’re planning on applying to uoft.
as you’ll see, the anticipated grade ranges for the humanities and social sciences are the same. this leads me on nicely to your next question:
the humanities and social sciences are, for all intents and purposes, the same. yes, they’re formally distinct in uoft’s vernacular, but once you get into first year, there’s not much of a difference between humanities and social sciences students.
if you look at the course calendar, you’ll see that the courses are not divided by stream – they’re listed by department. occasionally, maybe there’ll be a priority for social science or humanities students for a certain course, but practically speaking, a humanities student and a social sciences student could have the exact same schedule in first year.
the real difference is in the faculty name: arts and science. if you’re a science student or a computer/mathematical/physical science student, you will have very different courses from most humanities/social science students.
if you’re trying decide what you want your program to be and trying to figure out levels of difficulty, the thing you want to be looking at is our subject POSTs. they vary widely in competition, popularity, and how many people they admit. you’ll be required to pick one or more subject POSts by the end of your first year, so it’s worth it to peruse them now!
cheers,
aska
How hard is u of t humanities to get into? Average of 84.
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hey there,
it’s hard as a rock grinding against a religious fanatic. it’s hard as a final exam on three hours of sleep. it’s hard as a watermelon a week before it ripens. it’s hard as carbon nanotubes. it’s hard as your mother’s rules about watching tv when she’s tired. it’s hard as holding hands with an elementary school crush. it’s hard as long division after a decade of having a calculator on your phone.
just read this document and make a judgement call yourself, dude.
cheers,
aska
Hi aska I attend a performing arts school. I am applying to social sciences/humanities at st George and was wondering if our arts area (music course) is included in our top 6 marks?
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hey there,
hmm. you didn’t state this explicitly, but i’m going to assume you’re an ontario high school student, because i’m pretty sure you wouldn’t know about the top 6 thing if you weren’t.*
if the course you’re taking is a 4U or 4M course (that is, a university or mixed grade 12 course), and the mark you get in that course is one of your top 6 marks out of all the 4U or 4M class you take, then yes, it would be included.
basically what i’m saying is that if a course is in your top 6 4U/M marks then it is in your top 6 4U/M marks. so. did i misunderstand the question?
if the school you’re at doesn’t classify courses as either O (open), C (college), M (mixed) or U (university), then you’ll need to look up what the requirements are in your own school system’s language.
cheers,
aska
*i will continue to post pics of famous english men as reactions on here until you’re all convinced i’m an attractive, 40-year-old white guy. convinced, but still with the tiniest hint of self-doubt that aska just might be something much, much greater…
Hi aska I am already an anxious person as it is and waiting makes me pee myself. I was wondering when exactly students find out that they are accepted into u of t? I’ve heard different from everyone
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hey there,
well, first – uoft is not worth peeing yourself for. like. maybe you should see a doctor about that or something.
as for when you get accepted, you’ve heard different things from everyone because – get this – everyone gets accepted at different times. wow.
ok, but i’m not just being smart here:?people really are accepted to the university at?vastly different times. you could be accepted anywhere between december and june, depending on your situation and when you apply.
if you’re an OUAC 101 student (i.e. fresh outta high school), and you apply on time, you can expect to hear from the university between late february and late may. admissions just can’t give a more exact timeline than that – it’s too variable.
i’d recommend going outside, hanging out with friends, and applying to other universities you’re excited about to lessen your anxiety. also, use the washroom frequently and whenever it is needed. you will (probably) be a lot less tense.
cheers,
aska
Hi aska my average for grade 11 was 85 and so far I have a 96 in one of my courses for grade 12. My average should be 83-85 for grade 12 and I’m freaking out about whether or not this is good enough for humanities/social science at the st george campus!?
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hey there,
i love waking up to the smell of fresh, high school panic in the morning. do you know what you’re doing to your liver, my friend? or your heart, for that matter? this stress is not good for you.
anyway, an 83-85% average?fits nicely into this year’s anticipated grade range?for students entering uoft in 2014. now, keep in mind, these anticipated grade ranges?may change a little when 2015 rolls around.
additionally,?there’s no way to tell exactly how you stack up against all the rest of the applicants to any given university in any given year. everyone could be a cybernetic robot genius by next year, and you could’ve missed the robot surgery through a freak accident (or by sleeping in too late. that’s probably what’ll happen to me).
however, that anticipated grade range can give you a rough idea of your chances?- robot revolution exempted.
cheers,
aska
Hi! I received 95 and above in grade 12 english this summer is there any scholarships available at u of t for english? Also I’ve been told they don’t count it when its done in the summer…
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hey there,
you can take a look at all the awards offered by the department of english here, though i don’t think the fact that you got a 95% in english will be relevant for any of them (kudos, though). looks like they’re all based on achievements in english courses at uoft.
if you’d like to apply for any scholarships based on your high school achievements, you may want to look into entrance scholarships offered by the university. or you can go searching out in the wild west of external scholarships. prepare yourself, though. they can get pretty wacky.
finally, if you take high school courses in summer school, they will be counted towards admission.
cheers,
aska
I’m going into my senior year and I’m having such anxiety about getting my grades high enough for u of t! Do you have any tips on how to relax in this time of panic??
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hey there,
i mean, different things work for different people. some people like bubble baths. some people prefer marathoning TV shows. i myself like ravaging countrysides and kidnapping princes, but hey, to each their own.
there are lots of different feel-good things you can do, but ultimately there’s one thing at the root of your stress, and that’s a worried mind. somehow, you need to convince yourself the worry is not worth it.
when i DELVE deep into the PSYCHE of the high school student, i see two possible ways of minimizing stress: channelling your anxious energy into the thing you’re stressed about, or away from it. like so:
1. channelling your anxiety into the source of the anxiety.
the next time you feel really nervous about grade 12, create a plan for how you’re going to do really well. and none of this ‘i’ll try really hard.’
what you need are specific things you can do to improve your grades, like ‘i’ll limit myself to three extra-curriculars’ or ‘i’ll get a tutor for math’ or ‘i’ll offer lackeying services to my grade 12 physics teacher so she passes me.’ practical stuff. review the admissions requirements and see where, if anywhere, you’ll need to up your game to meet them. if you have a plan, you’ll feel a lot more prepared, and a lot less nervous.
2. channelling your anxiety away from the source of the anxiety.
focus on acquiring a skill outside of school. i know that grade 12 is beyond stressful with applications and school and often a part-time job, but if you can find even half an hour a day to try learning something new, it’ll take your mind off things.
learn a new musical instrument, or try learning a new language. or, if (like me) you’re not talented in cool and interesting ways like music or languages, it could be something as small as mastering sudoku puzzles, or keeping a diary. building completely new neural pathways is a challenge that requires all of your focus, meaning you’ll spend less of that focus on uni stress.
best of luck and try not to worry too much, chum. wrinkles don’t look good on young folks like us.
cheers,
aska
Does u of t st george look at gr 11 marks for conditional acceptance ?
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hey there,
you’re about four months early for this. people were throwing this question at me left, right and centre in october of last year. but hey, i’m never one to criticize an early bird. i am one to complain about them, though. complaining’s my speciality, doncha know.
but okay: you’re nervous, you want to know what you’re getting yourself into before you get into it. fair enough. the most succinct answer to this question is: sometimes (or, in uoft’s phraseology: “[s]econdary school applicants with strong midyear results may be admitted on condition that they complete their academic year successfully,” ‘may’ being the tricky/operative word here).
they look at what they can get, and if you’re applying quite early on in the year (you haven’t even finished the first semester of grade 12, say) then they may consider your grade 11 marks for early admission. later on, they may also consider them in conjunction with your grade 12 marks.
HOWEVER i can’t say how important grade 11 marks are in your overall application, how they will stack up compared to everyone else applying, how important they are versus your grade 12 marks, etc. etc. so DON’T ASK. please.
point is this: if you’re not finished grade 11 yet, do your best, because it does matter. but if you’ve already finished and are heading into grade 12, don’t worry, because your grade 12 marks also matter and can help boost your chances. ultimately, the final admission decision is based on your top six 4U/M marks, so if your grade 11 marks were less than awesome, make sure you do everything you can to get those ones up to scratch.
best of luck with your last stretch of high school,
aska
Hiiii,
I’m going to Seneca for opticianry (with co-op), and it’s a 2 year program. I really REALLY wanted to get into UofT for Life Sciences, but my marks weren’t that good so I wasn’t able to. 🙁 Anyways, I was wondering if I have a possibility of being accepted into UofT for Life Sciences after finishing my college diploma? If yes, do they only look at the GPA or the specific courses I took at Seneca? Please helpp I really really really really want to get into UofT. :'( Any advice you can give me??
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hey there,
you can definitely apply from college. your admission information is here, but i’ll summarize it for you because i’m a NICE INTERNET PERSON. they are going to be considering:
1. your annual college GPA
2. your overall college GPA
3. whether you meet the prereqs of the program at the high school level (though “?[t]wo full college level semesters of an academic subject may be considered to satisfy a prerequisite.”)
so the courses do matter and the marks matter, during both years. if there are any prerequisites that you know you didn’t fulfil at the high school level, you may want to try and meet it at the college level, though of course course equivalency is always a tricky issue. if you want to verify the likelihood of you getting an equivalent credit for any course, i’d recommend contacting the transfer credit office.
i hope to see you around campus sometime soon, chum.
cheers,
aska
Hiya. I applied to UTM as a non-degree student, and in a previous ask of mine you said the enrollement date for n-ds starts August 16, which is in like..25 days. I haven’t heard anything back yet though and my application still says pending, so are acceptance or rejection letters sent before enrollment dates? Or is there a final date to be notified by? or do I just wait in agony 🙁
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hey there,
there isn’t a final notification date (because that would just be downright COMFORTING to students), BUT the general rule of thumb is that they should get back to you in six weeks on the outside.
firstly, i’d check your status on your join uoft account, just to make sure that all the appropriate documents have been sent in. if you have sent in all your documents and it still says ‘pending,’ and it’s been four weeks or more since you sent in your application, contact enrolment services at st. george to see what’s going on (yes, contact them even though you’re a utm student).
sorry i can’t be of more help, and i hope this gets sorted out quickly!
best of luck,
aska