• admissions,  grades,  life science

    marks are marks, whenever they’re made

    September 19, 2012

    Hi!

    So… I’m a student in grade 11 and I’m pursuing Life sciences.?I got my timetable today, but I didn’t everything i wanted. I got my grade 11 sciences (bio, chem, and physics) but i don’t have advanced functions. So worried! If i take advanced functions during the summer, will u of t consider it? Or if they do, will they consider it as a ‘lower’ course?

    And if i take calculus and advanced functions next year and submit it during admission time, will the university not accept me because i didn’t submit both my calculus marks and advanced functions marks???? (cuz i obviously take calculus after i take advanced functions which is second semester AFTER i apply to u of t.)

    Please answer it ASAP!
    Thank you.

     

    Whoa! Deep breaths, girlfriend. I know college admissions can be stressful, but I promise you that you will be just fine, whatever happens. All of the required courses for admission to the many life sciences courses are listed on apges 50-51 of the admissions viewbook.

    As you obviously know, calculus is one of the courses required across the board, but it doesn’t mean you can’t apply before you’ve finished taking it. U of T accepts applications all the way up until March, and they will also check in on your final high school transcript to make sure you stayed on track, even after admission to the University. What that means is that when you first apply, they will see on your schedule that you’re taking calculus in the spring, and will consider your application despite not having that mark yet. Once you’ve finished Grade 12, they`ll come back and make sure you did well, so that means no senioritis for you. ?But it also means that you don’t have to worry too much about taking calc a bit later than you’d like.

    As for taking advanced functions next summer, I’m not sure what you mean by “lower” course, but as an institution which itself offers summer courses, the University recognizes that they are as valid as those which occur during the year ?In fact, according to the Liberal government’s recent white paper on education in Ontario, the future of Universities and even high schools in Ontario could include a bigger role for year-round learning). In other words, summer courses are as good as any other. So if you’re worried about being late with calc, takin functions in the summer is probably your best bet, if only to assuage your own paranoia . 🙂

    Best of luck, and make sure you stop and smell the roses between furious study sessions, ok?

    Stay cool,

    aska

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  • life science,  repeating course

    fail once, fail better

    May 24, 2011

    Hi,

    I’m a first year life science student. I went on ROSI this weekend to see my marks and found out that I only got a 52 in organic chemistry! I’ve already applied to all the type 3 subject post but they all require me to have all course a minimum of 60 and at least a gpa of 3.0!
    This is the only course that I got that low, and because of this bad mark, not only does it not meet the requirement of having all courses above 60, my gpa is not above 3.0 anymore either!
    Is there something I can do to get into any of the programs or am I just done and have to transfer from life science to some other program like commerce.

    -Christine

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    Hi Christine,

    Please don’t despair. Since you are in first year, please keep in mind that you can continue to apply for the subject PoST of your choosing all the way until your final year of study. The main thing is being able to apply for some classes you need to take next year, right?

    For the time being, you can enter a Type 1 Subject PoSt at any time in order to be able to select specific classes in upper years (remember that you have to be registered in a Specialist, Double Major or a Major and Two Minors). Your marks and criteria might also meet some Type 2 and 3 PoSts. You can also retake Organic Chemistry to boost your mark next year.

    Perhaps a sitdown with an academic counsellor might make you feel more at ease about course selection for next year? Sinceyou have at least passed all your classes (silver lining!), you can register as a second year student to have an easier chance at nabbing some prime classes, working towards your Life Sciences Subject PoSt requirements. For now, peruse the program requirements, take the classes you can without being registered in the Subject PoSt (after a select date, the priority restrictions fall away and anyone can register!), and work towards your degree. Work hard, and when you reapply next year, it’ll be all good.

    xoxo, Askastudent
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  • admissions,  life science

    u of t is a heartbreaker

    May 24, 2011
    So if I do not get into the program I want, which is Life Science, will I get an alternate offer for another science course at St. George, being the campus I initial applied to?

    ???????????????

    Ooh, a follow up question! Aska loves those.

    Basically if you are not accepted into Life Sciences at St. George, you will not be accepted into U of T. It’s possible that you might get an offer to UTM or UTSC instead (though I don’t think that usually happens). You can always apply to transfer in another year, or re apply for the following year if you do not get in.

    Sorry if that’s a little heartbreaking.

    xoxo, Askastudent

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  • admissions,  life science

    am i in yet, or what?

    May 19, 2011

    What is the cut off percentage for the program
    Life Sciences (including Psychology) [HUMAN BIOLOGY-HEALTH/DISEASE]
    at the University of Toronto St. George campus? Right now I have a 79% overall, do I stand a chance of getting accepted??

    ???????????????

    Contrary to popular belief, Askastudent is not like that creepy genie in Big that determines and grants your every wish and command. (We do accept quarters though.) So while I can’t say for sure whether or not you’ll get in, it doesn’t look good. Usually for life sciences, the cut-offs or lowest averages accepted are in the mid-80s – it’s a competitive program. Also this being mid May and you haven’t heard anything yet leads me to the unfortunate belief that you probably have not been accepted. Sorry my friend. Let me know how it works out.

    xoxo, Askastudent

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  • life science

    papa don’t preach – i want to be in life sci

    March 2, 2011

    Hi there, I’m having a very tough time, as I’m not sure what to do with my life. I applied for engineering and got excepted (mac, queens, ufot, ryerson), but this was only due to heavy influence from my dad. After I looked further into it, I am getting the feeling that I’m not prepared for the intense workload that I keep hearing about. Thus, I’m considering Life Sciences or Health Sciences (with apparently a less work/course load), but I want to know if there are good earning jobs that I can get under 6 years (rather than trying for doctor with more than 8 years of studying). Please if you may give me some insight and tell me if I am naive for (as my dad says I am) for wanting a social life and athletic life on top of studies.

    ???????????????

    Hey there,

    Life science and engineering are probably the top smarty pants courses that you can take at U of T (and probably anywhere). Saying that, your course load will be heavy in Life Sci but there is more flexability in schedualing. So if you know you will go out on Thursday nights, take Friday mornings on so school won’t be affected.

    There is a large variety of jobs that you can get out of the Life Sciences/Health Sciences, it depends on the stream you are interested in.

    This is your time … do what you want. Its not you dad who is going to rip?his hair out from over studying and under partying. University is a place of learning – learning some serious engineering/sciences, your alcohol tolerance, how to hail a cab, roll a sandwich (hint how i met your mother), and which homeless people are nice to talk to.?University is?way more than just the learning you experience in class.?

    love always,

    aska

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  • admissions,  life science,  UTM

    they have life sci at utm, who knew

    February 9, 2011

    Hi Aska,
    I would just like to ask you if you know which mark update is more important? The marks that are uploaded now, which for semestered school are the first semester credits or the mark update which is later in march this year? My marks are not so good and im only a percents away from an 86 average. I have applied to Life Sciences and I also wanted to ask what are my chances of getting into utm with about an 81 avg?
    thanks

    ???????????????

    yo yo yoooooo

    Here are the specific date information taken fromt he Future Students section on the Innis website:

    Your high school will send to OUAC any final first-semester grades and current full-year midterm grades by 15 February 2011.

    Toward the end of April, your high school will provide to OUAC your midterm grades for second-semester courses and interim grades for full-year courses.

    Meaning that both grades are considered. If your current grades aren’t high enough for the program you might not be admitted on early admission but if you get your shit together this semester you might get admitted in the regular admissions time.

    I’m not entirely sure what the admissions average for Life Sci at Utm are. Its something that changes each year based on the number of applicants and their grades. At the St.George campus they generally say to have a mid to high 80’s average, but as it’s UTM and not quite so snobby so?the average might be a little lower.

    Hopefully that helped and didn’t shatter all your dreams,

    love always,
    aska

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  • admissions,  life science

    Brain, what do you want to do tonight? The same thing we do every night, Pinky?try to take over the world!

    October 27, 2010

    Evidently, the subject was rhetorical. Of course I’ll become the most powerful dictator known to man at somepoint. Moving on,

    I was wondering how big of an impact my midterm grades have when I apply in mid-november. I know that they will look at my overall academic standing and my grade 11 marks, but how do they compare midterm and first semester finals? I am going to apply to Life Sci (I know, I’ve already got the university slang down pat :D) which requires an average somewhere in the neighbourhood of 83-86%. However, my midterm average will only be about 80%, though my final first semester average will be in and around 85, due to my tendancies to beat exams/summatives/tests senseless… In a good way. I’m also applying to residence which means the greedy, bald men in fine Italian suits (The ones who sit in dark bourgeious offices and stroke their chins whilst sifting through applications, of course) will undoubtedly smack their lips in anticipation of another $10,000, perhaps allowing their beady little eyes to linger on my application a few seconds longer.

    Essentially, How big of an impact do my midterm grades have versus my finals and what kind of influence do residency applications have on the decision making process of my acceptance. All that, and a bag of chips.

    Warmest Regards,

    The future of Mankind.

    ???????????????

    Hi there world dominator,

    The image of you sitting in a chair stroking a cat came to mind when i read your question, so here it is TOP 5 WORLD DOMINATORS
    in no particular order:
    1.? Dr. Claw (Inspector Gadget)

    ” I’ll get you next time, Gadget! “

    2. Dr. Evil (Austin Powers)

    “You’re not quite evil enough. You’re semi-evil. You’re quasi-evil. You’re the margarine of evil. You’re the Diet Coke of evil, just one calorie, not evil enough.”

    3. Stewie Griffin (Family Guy)

    “There’s always been a lot of tension between Lois and me, and it’s not so much that I want to kill her, it’s just, I want her not to be alive anymore”

    4. Lord Voldemort (Harry Potter)

    “Do not say the Dark Lord’s name!”

    5. Darth Vader (Star Wars)

    “You don’t know the power of the dark side!”


    Maybe one day, highschool dominator you will replace one of these great villians, but for now I will answer your question:

    First of all, admittance to the University of Toronto is considered separately from your desire for residence. Once you’ve receive your offer of admission, you will then be considered for residence. Don’t fret, all first year students are guaranteed a spot in residence (make sure you check off your interest in residence on OUAC).

    This might sound incredibly cheesy, but don’t worry about your midterm marks if you’ve already taken them and strive for the best final and 2nd semester marks you can manage. The terrible thing about applying to university is that they can’t give you a specific cut off grade average for admission. Meaning your best bet is to work it hard for your last year of highschool and get the most bad-ass grades you can get and be the competition to beat, rather than having to beat the competition.

    Check out this site: it breaks down, month by month, what you should be expecting with the application process and what grades will be considered when. The marks that are considered for early admission and regular admission are different. This site is pretty wicked too.

    Tender thoughts,
    Aska

    p.s might I suggest a field of study that allows you to use your vast dialect

    p.p.s there’s a website for Nudist World Domination … intriguing

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  • life science,  UTM

    be a dentist, you’ll be a success

    October 1, 2010

    Hi,
    I am currently a student at UTM, and am enrolled in Physical and Chemical Sciences. My ultimate goal is to become a dentist, which requires a minimum of two years in Life Science. I was wondering what I would need to do in order to switch into Life Sciences? like what GPA would I need to maintain etc.
    Thanks a lot!
    Lauren

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    Hi Lauren,

    Askastudent applauds your exciting life choice to become a dentist. Congratulations. May you floss eternally.

    It’s totally possible that you can switch into UTM’s Life Science program. According to their website, first year students take the following courses, which will lead them down to the road to being able to apply to professional schools, like dentistry.

    • BIO152H5: Introduction to Evolution and Evolutionary Genetics
    • BIO153H5: Diversity of Organisms
    • CHM140Y5: The Study of Matter and Its Transformations
    • MAT134Y5: Calculus for Life Sciences

    You might have taken a few of these courses already in your Chemistry program. Another important thing to note is their high school preparations. Do you have any equivalent of the following classes?

    • English (ENG4U)*;
    • Advanced Functions (MHF4U)*;
    • Biology (SBI4U)*; and
    • Chemistry (SCH4U).*
    • While Physics (SPH4U)* is recommended for some programs, it is required for Biotechnology.

    It’s possible that you might have to take some first year pre-reqs to switch into Life Sciences in your future year. However, remember that you can only take a maximum of six 100 level credits that go towards your degree.

    I would recommend talking to the Life Science program directly about your intention to switch into the program and how that will lead to dentistry. They can be contacted here.

    Best of luck!

    xoxo, Askastudent

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  • fun & places,  life science,  med school

    less melodrama please pre-meds, this isn’t Grey’s Anatomy

    April 6, 2010

    Hey aska
    I’m a first year life science student in st.george. I was planning to get straight As and get into medicine or health field, but chm139 blasted a hole in my gpa. I’m still getting As in most courses, and some Bs in those that are not. Assuming i don’t bomb the exams (not likly since the brains in the uni decided to put chm138 and mat135 on the first day of exam), i should still manage a 3.5-3.6 gpa. Worse of all, i have been focused on studying and haven’t been volunteering, padding my EC and resume much.

    So i think its probably time to quit pursuing that field. With this mark what is some other options for me? Say if i continued down life science with somewhere around this mark, would i be able to choose a masters i want, any inspirational story about someone barely passing chm139 and become chm phds? If not, would other programs like engineer/commerce (is commerce a useful degree?) still accept me? Some other programs that makes a decent living but i haven’t considered, heard of Just list somethings i can look into before i get trapped in life sci in second year. Don’t get me wrong i love some of the courses i’m taking (psy100 should be a required course!), but i do not want to end up with a useless degree with the amount of debt i will be in.

    thanks and have a good exam (if you still have those silly things)

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    I think you are overreacting just a little bit. A 3.5-3.6 GPA is mighty fine, especially for a first-year student, and you should be happy that you are getting A’s and B’s in your courses. It may not be enough to get you into med school YET, but there is still a lot of time to pull that cGPA up. Besides, Medical School (at UofT, at least) drops the three or four FCEs in which scored the lowest grades. Regarding CHM138 and MAT135: virtually everyone has a bad encounter with the exam timetable once or twice in their undergraduate careers, so just think of it as one of the many trials of your University life. I understand that you’re worried, but at the same time, I think it’s important to keep a clear head! Don’t let your worries get bigger than they actually are.

    Actually, I do have an inspiring story for you. My psychology prof last year, Dr. *insert fake name here*, told the whole class that he almost failed first year and guess what? Now he has a Ph. D. in psychology and is inspiring more students to continue their studies in psychology. You’ve only got ONE bad mark, and you have a good GPA. Try not to panic now. Give yourself some breathing room.

    I get the sense that you’re not seeing the bigger picture. It’s true that Arts and Science degrees don’t lead to a set career, unlike other programs like engineering and commerce. But please, ignore the rumors that people spread about engineering and commerce students reaping in all the moulah, or becoming frontrunners of the economy. A life science degree is not “useless”. There are many jobs available to Arts and Science students, and to quote the Career Centre website:

    According to the recent Ontario University Graduate Survey, 46% of graduates do not work in fields closely related to their program of study. Most arts and science graduates are recruited for their trained mind and not for their specialist knowledge.

    My advice is that you do NOT switch to engineering or commerce or computer science unless you’re passionate about those fields. I would know. I tried out engineering, had no passion for it, and I spent my first year as a miserable and sulky jerk. I don’t want you to end up like me. Financially, engineering and commerce degrees are actually more expensive than Arts and Science degrees – not to mention that as a transfer student, you would probably have to start back at square one and take first year again. However, if you are genuinely interested in these fields, it may be worth doing more research on how to do an internal transfer.

    Also, maybe it’s better if you got away from the I’m taking an Arts and Science degree to get into a specific job mindset and started thinking instead about the skills you get from your degree. In the “real world”, employers care less about the courses that you’ve taken at University and more about the skills that you have. Besides, as an Arts and Science student, you have many opportunities and fields at your fingertips. Go exploring! Go dig up your ArtSci calendar and chart out those courses that you like! I see you’ve already done that with psychology – why not take some more psychology courses as electives?

    Another thing that ties in with the “skills” thing is extra-curricular activities. Have you thought about getting a work-study job next year? That way, you can go to school and work at the same time. Volunteering may also be a good idea. Working and volunteering give you practical experience, which I think will give you a lot of perspective as to how useful your degree will be. I know you haven’t had a lot of extra-curricular experience – don’t worry about that for now. There’s always next year.

    Finally, remember also to enjoy yourself. Join extra-curricular activities that you’re interested in and make new friends. Get an internship in a field you see yourself being in. Have fun. There’s more to school than the grades on your transcript, right?

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  • life science

    crossing the academic floor

    March 31, 2010

    hey

    I only applied to U of T humanities and I want to take all science/math courses (physics,bio, chem, calc)?in first year. Is it difficult to sign up for science courses as a student in the humanities admission category during course enrollment???Would all the science courses I need be filled up by the time the course enrollment priorities for life science people?have been lifted? What do you think? I am planning to?do a life science major or specialist subject POST after getting admitted into the humanities. Is this possible?

    Thanks

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    So I asked the Innis registrar for you, and they told me that the life science courses usually don?t fill up. Keep in mind that the life science lectures are pretty huge?for instance, I?ve heard that first-year biology has more than 1000 spaces?so your chances of getting in are really high (also, there’s more than one section for most classes). Don?t worry! However, you should make sure that you have the correct prerequisites for the life science courses you are going to take. You?re going to need high school biology, chemistry, and math for sure.

    Yes. It?s possible to do a life science major or specialist after despite being in the humanities stream. The stream (humanities, life sciences, physical sciences, or social sciences) which you are placed in only serves to give the University an idea of where their students are headed in general, and definitely does not restrict you from mixing things up. You choose your POSt after first-year.

    I would advise you to call your college registrar and talk to them about this. I don?t think they will let you switch your stream from humanities to life science, but you never know. Besides, if you end up coming to UofT, you?ll be going to your college registrar quite often, so there?s no time better to start than now! If they don’t switch your stream though, don’t fret. It probably doesn’t matter much, since the chances of you not being able to get in the life science courses you want are preeeetty low.

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