• commerce,  french,  near and middle eastern civilizations,  non degree

    an especially confused mood

    July 19, 2018

    Hello ASKA!

    Hope your summer is going well. I’m going into second year at UTSG, doing my BComm in Public Accounting. The thing is that I also planning on a major in French Lang & Lit, which y’know, is nbd, but uhhh I was also interested in minoring in NMC? I’m cool with not doing the full minor and just getting the language certificate for Arabic but I think that I’d be going over 20.0 FCEs no matter what? PA is 15 and French is 7, and a minor, as you definitely know, is 4. Req 1 for my specialist says “At least 20.0 Credits from”University Course(s)”” (Not sure why university courses needed to be in quotation marks but ok, degree explorer.) which makes me think that it’s cool if I go over, but would I need to pay more? What happens if I fulfill all the requirements for the B.Comm and still want to keep going? Should I finish the MAJ/MIN stuff before my specialist requirements? I know that it’s fine to go over 4 years, and I’m planning on doing summer school anyways so I’ll prob be paying for extra tuition no matter what but like, is there an additional fee for going over 20 credits?????

    woW those were a lot of question marks, but I am in an especially confused mood. I had an appointment with my registrar earlier but I forgot to ask so I’m just shouting into your asks here.

    As an aside, I really love your post titles! Thanks for your patience with our questions.

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    hello!

    THANK YOU FOR NOTICING MY TITLES. tbqh, they’re the hardest part of every response and i (sadly) spend an inordinate time making them up.

    anyways, the answer.

    first, for something this long-winded, complicated, and specific, you really should get in touch with your registrar’s office. as you mentioned, you’ve already had an appointment with your registrar, but this really is something that is worth going back for. they can actually dig up specific info for you that i don’t have access to (i’m powerful, but not that powerful).

    you’re right when you say that it’s fine to go over 20.0 credits– that’s just how many you need to graduate. basically, you don’t get to graduate until you actually request graduation. also, there’s isn’t any additional fee for going over 20 credits, just the tuition fees you would be paying anyways.

    something that you could also consider is coming back as a non-degree student after finishing your bcomm. non-degree students are students who’ve already earned a degree from the university and are taking courses without working towards a degree. you could be taking courses to get into a graduate program or self-interest. i don’t know why you wanna do both a bcomm and a major/minor in arts programs, but i respect it. i see you. game recognize game.

    anna kendrick salute GIF

    anyways, if you’re just looking to take french language and literature and nmc courses out of self-interest, looking into coming back as a non-degree student after finishing your bcomm may be a good option.

    if you want to do the french and nmc programs at the same time as your bcomm, then i suggest going back to your registrar to discuss your options.

    hope this helps!

    xoxo,

    aska

    PS- i literally couldn’t come up with a title for this–i got performance anxiety!!

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  • near and middle eastern civilizations,  subject POST

    crossover POSts

    May 20, 2015

    I have a younger sister who got accepted to both Scarborough & St. George campuses (yay her!) for Linguistics. She REALLY wants to take Arabic courses at St. George (& follow in my footsteps lol), but would like to participate in Co-Op at Scarborough since they accepted her & it’s a nice opportunity. She knows she can still take Arabic courses at UTSG if she is at UTSC, but can she select the Near & Middle Eastern Studies as a minor as well? Or can she at least get a Language Citation? Thanks 🙂

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    hey there,

    according to #10 of the UTSC course calendar, “only UTSC programs may be used to meet degree requirements” at UTSC. so no, your sister can’t enrol in an NMC minor at the St. George campus if she’s enrolled at UTSC. unfortunately, you have to stick to POSts on your own campus, because we live in a SEPARATIST and DIVIDED university.*

    HOWEVER. the language citation exists at all three campuses, and if she was willing to take a language citation in Arabic at UTSC, she could do so. the minimum number of courses you need for a language citation is 2.0 FCEs above the introductory level, and UTSC offers enough Arabic courses to make that possible. whoo!

    an african studies minor at UTSC is another possibility.

    if she really wants to do her Arabic studies at UTSG, continuing education offers a number of arabic language courses, too.

    cheers, my multilingual friends,

    aska

    * i’m joking. imagine if all three campuses were combined into one. just imagine how big that campus would be. oh man.

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  • near and middle eastern civilizations,  transfer credits

    in this topic: admissions committee hates on fine arts and engineering

    December 7, 2009

    Hi,
    I’m looking information on transfering from University of Windsor to U
    ofT. I’ve completed first year at Windsor in English and Philosophy. I’m
    wanting to take Near and Middle Eastern civilization. Will all my
    credits be transferable?

    Thank you.

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    Hello. To transfer to UofT, take a look at this page, which outlines the transfer process you?ll need to follow in order to be admitted into the University of Toronto. According to this page, you should fill out an application from OUAC. Make sure you use the 105 Application, and not the 101 one which high school students use. I’m assuming you’re smart enough to figure that out though, right?

    If all the courses you?ve taken are just humanities, social science, or sciences courses so far, I?m guessing that all of the credits will be transferable. The page I linked you to says that credits will be transferable as long as they?re ?academic in nature and not clinical?, which means as long as you didn?t take any classes from like, fine arts or something, you?ll probably be fine. Don?t take my word for it though. I know a friend who transferred into the Faculty of Arts and Science from engineering, but his engineering credits didn?t transfer over. I know. The admissions committee can be SO silly sometimes. Why can’t they have transfer credits for engineering or fine arts courses?! Can’t we all just get along?

    On the bright side, even if you lose a few credits, you can probably make it up during the summer. If you really want to come to UofT, then the transfer may just be well worth it.

    Oh yeah! I almost forgot. Take a look at this page. It lists the requirements for the Near and Middle Eastern Civilizations program. Are you thinking of doing the specialist, major, or minor program? If you don?t know what those are, they basically represent different levels of intensity at which UofT students can study their chosen area of study. The specialist program for Near and Middle Eastern Civilization program has 11 required credits, the major program has 6 required credits, and the minor program has 4 required credits. You may want to take a look at the course codes to see what interests you. It’s probably also a good idea to contact the department to get some more information about the programs offered here.

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