• 12 distinct credits,  graduation,  subject POST

    you’ve got the beeeeest of both worlds, mix it all together and…

    Hi,

    I’m a second year student majoring in Bioethics and 2 minors in Biology and Physiology. I know that Bioethics is a arts program, while my minor’s are in science. I was wondering if I would graduate with a B.A, or BSc, or if I had the choice to choose? I’m also kind of confused about the 12.0 different courses rule, how does that apply to my minors since there is quite a bit of overlap between them.

    Thanks in advance!

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    hey there,

    i’d recommend reading this post to understand the 12.0 distinct credits rule. basically, 8.0 of your credits in your degree can overlap – so between your minors and major, there can only be an overlap of 8.0, i.e. 12.0 credits must each qualify as a requirement for only one of your programs (but that post explains it better than i do so def read that). as for your degree, you would get to choose, which is kind of a super awesome thing that not a lot of people get to do. so CHOOSE WISELY (or just flip a coin lol that’ll work too).

    best,

    aska

  • exclusions,  subject POST

    excluding the peeps from knowledge smh

    Hi aska!
    I’ve read through the numerous responses on exclusions and the like and I have one question that hasn’t been answered (unless it has been making my efforts seem one step short) and my question is, if I have 2 excluded courses, say MAT135/136 and I want to enrol in a subject PoST that requires the two (say, stats for example), will I even be able to because I’ve taken a previous first-year math.
    AStudentWhoseDegreePathIsInJeopardy

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    hey there,

    alright so basically you have one of two options. both require you to schlep over to the department of the POSt that you want to enrol in, unfortunately. BUTTT once you do, the department will either 1) say that your exclusion can sub in as a requirement for MAT135/6, or 2) that you have to take them, in which case you totally can, they’ll just be counted as an extra course. all an extra means is that it doesn’t count towards your degree (that is, the 20.0 credits you need to like, get a degree), but it counts towards your program and as a program requirement for any POSt/grad school/whatever you may want to enrol in.

    i hope that makes sense!

    stay radical,

    aska

  • engineering

    chemical engineering: yay or nay?

    Hey Aska!

    First, I enjoy the Dan Howell gifs on the prospective students page and Jon Snow as well…I like you already. Anyways, I’m one of the many anxious high school students coming to you for advice! I’m currently in Gr. 11 and have been looking at universities for years (because I’m a massive nerd yup). I’m planning to go into Chemical Engineering and know that tons of schools offer great co-op programs so how does the PEY program do next to integrated co-op like other universities have? Also is the ChemEng course load as tough as everybody tells me? Sorry for dumb questions from a dumb nerd. Time to go back to being emotional over fictional characters.

    Thanks!

    – #1 Nerd

    ?????????

    hey there,

    well first, congrats on your a+ taste! dan and jon also happen to be two of my favourites, and they’re especially convenient because i get to watch them without having to waste time interacting with them as humans! that brings me on to chemical engineering.

    i’m gonna answer your second question first because i think it kind of precedes the question about PEY. first, you have to be sure engineering is what you want to do. then, you can start working out the details. so. is it as hard as everyone says? well, yes and no.

    i’d say that, out of any discipline in at uoft that’s a first-year entry program, engineering has the most intense workload. the general rule of thumb i learned is that arts programs are 10-15 hours of class time a week, science programs are 20-25, and engineering are 30-35. which is why i say that in an engineering program, you can often feel like you have no time to interact with other humans. also, engineering deals with higher level mathematics and physics than any life science program, so it’s just tougher academically. it’s a big step up from whatever it is you did in grade 12, i don’t care if that was ap or ib or whatever. it’s a different environment, and that at least is bound to throw you off.

    however, it’s definitely not impossible. i think (and this is just my humble opinion yadda yadda) that you need two things to do well in engineering: 1) you need to be good at math. obviously.

    2) (spoiler: this one’s more important than the first one) you actually need to LIKE math (and chemistry and physics) – not just what you think you’re going to get out of the degree. if you’re not super great at math but you REALLY LIKE doing it, then you can gain a lot of ground that other people who hate every second of it lose in first year.

    ok, next up: the PEY Internship Program. alright, so the main difference between uoft and other universities is that – big shocker, clue’s in the name – uoft offers an internship program, while other universities offer co-op. that means that instead of doing certain semesters at a co-op job and then coming back to school for a couple of semesters on and off throughout your degree, you do one 12-16 month chunk of work after 2nd or 3rd year. this is good because you get to see what, essentially, working full-time as an engineer as like. it also means that you get paid a lot of money in one go.

    however, you do have to wait longer in the uoft programs than in some co-op programs to actually get a job, and often, your marks etc. will get in the way of you actually qualifying for the internship (no one thinks it’ll happen to them until it does). i don’t say this to SCARE you, just to INFORM you. ultimately, you need to make a choice between an academic program that offers a year-long internship, and a program that incorporates multiple work terms into your studies. capice?

    ok great, well, that’s your crash course on engineering. hope it gave you summat to think about.

    xoxo,

    aska

  • computer science,  failing

    restarting your hardware

    Hi, I am a second year student in Computer science in University of Toronto. I was shocked when I saw my marks on ROSI. I failed two courses that required for next year computer science studies. Actually, I got not bad mark each of them before final exam. Because of some family and relationship issue, I didn’t review much about them before exam. I did really bad in those two final exams. One of them is lower than 40% so that I was considered to be failed on that course regardless my grade before exam. The third year computer science needs 3.0 CGPA. In this case, I have lost completely. I don’t know what to do. I love computer science and programming, I never think I will fail cs course. Is it possible for me to go on in computer science? Please give me some information. Thank you so much.

    ?????????

    hey there,

    well, if you don’t have the 3.0 CGPA to move on, then unfortunately you’ll have to figure out some kind of alternative. it’s supremely uncool, i know, but what can ya do. obviously, i’m not telling you to drop out. i’m just saying you have a choice to make, and it’s in?your hands:?whether that means not continuing with your studies, transferring schools, or changing programs is totally up to you. it’s a personal choice, right, so i can’t tell you what to do. i can suggest some stuff – i’m super good at suggestive waffling – but you have to do what feels right for you (ew i sound like a new-age doctor but seriously in this case it’s true ok).

    i mean if you love programming, maybe there’s another program somewhere that still has to do with programming but better suits your needs. i’m not an expert, but maybe there’s an analogous college program you can transfer into that might be more helpful to you. give it a think over, just for me, if you can; don’t discount the idea just because it wasn’t part of your original plan.

    however if you think about it and you decide that you a) definitely want to stay in the program and b) can do a lot better next year, then you can try to petition your final grade. if you think that your family/relationship issues really were the cause of your low marks, then you might be able to rewrite some exams and/or resubmit some work. the pamphlet i linked to gives you step-by-step instructions on how to do this, but basically the first step is to contact your instructor or the department, depending on who you have access to.

    petitioning your grade may or may not work out, but it’s worth a try if you think that these marks were just a one-time slip-up, and not an indication that what you’re doing isn’t really RIGHT for YOU (there i go with the new-age-yness again ugh). so that’s what i’d recommend. also, if you decide to do that, do it as soon as possible. it may end up being a long process, and you should try and sort it out right away.

    i hope that helps a bit. good luck to ya!

    aska

  • admissions,  architecture

    i need an idea for OneIdea

    Hi, I want to apply for architecture for 2013-14. This OneIdea essay thing?is really intimidating me. I have no idea what to talk about and the?application deadline is Jan 15, 2014! Could this be about any challenge I?faced in my life? What are they generally looking for with this essay? Some?tips will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Maryam

    ?????????

    hey there,

    guys, just so you know, you can’t expect an answer within a couple of days of you sending it. it says that on the ask page. i’m not superhuman; i can only go so fast.

    as for your question, i mean, i don’t know what they’re looking for because i’m not an architecture student. i’d advise you to talk to some current students for advice, but since the essay is due so soon, there’s no time for that.

    what i can gather from this?page is that any challenge or problem can be used as an example. since you are applying for architecture/visual studies and they require two images to be incorporated into the essay, i’d say that if you ever created something functional, like a scale model, or a blueprint, or anything at all that you’ve created really, you can extrapolate a “challenge” or “problem” from that. so if you have a couple of sketches already, you can use those as images and then retroactively come up with how that idea solved a problem or challenged you to be creative or whatever.

    honestly, anything at all creative that you have and can take a picture of should be good. as long as you can clearly explain why that thing is significant in some way – like, it illustrated a certain issue, or was displayed somewhere for some reason – i’d say you have a chance. don’t stress if you don’t have anything specifically related to architecture; just pick your best visual work and defend it as well as possibly in your essay.

    most of all, don’t be intimidated by it; it’s just an essay, like any other. actually, it’s shorter than most essays you’ve probably had to write in your life so far. so just write it carefully and as well as you can, and don’t stress, because i guarantee that everyone else feels the same way you do.

    good luck!

    aska

  • admissions,  repeating course

    i want u(oft) to want me, i need u(oft) to need me

    Hey. Thanks in advance for your help!
    I’m a high student in grade 12, attending school in Ontario. In grade 11 I chose to take both grade 11 and 12 English, planning on not having to take English in my final year. I managed to finish with a solid 94 in grade 11 English, but the semester following I slacked off and missed a lot of school due to family issues – I moved out of my parents house and so forth. Point being, I finished with a 62 (Grade 12 English) and of course, this is unacceptable in any university’s eyes. I plan on retaking it during my last semester in high school but I have heard that U of T does not consider re-takes – that they just take your initial mark.
    If you know anything in regards to this, that could help my situation, please let me know! Thanks!

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    hey there,

    well if your only mark in the 60s is in that one class, then it’s not the end of the world. universities do allow for a margin of error, and one C doesn’t automatically mean you’re out.

    as for retaking classes, uoft has some liability safety-net statement (which i talk about more here) that says they reserve the right to factor in the fact that you had to do the course twice when it comes to making an admission decision. however if you retake english, do really well, and get good marks in all the rest of your classes in grade 12, i’d say you’ve minimized the fact of your having done the class twice as much as you possibly can. so by planning to retake the course, you’ve pretty much done everything you possibly can to help yourself out. woo!

    that doesn’t mean you’ll get in, obviously, but it does mean you can know for sure you did everything within your power to get in.

    finally, you can always contact enrolment services and provide a letter explaining why that first mark wasn’t up to par. it really does help.

    best of luck,

    aska

  • CR/NCR

    CR/NCR, what are what are what are (you)?

    Hello,
    I was just hoping you could confirm something for me. I selected the Credit/No Credit option for one of my courses, and I just want to make sure that by doing so it will not mess up the amount of credits I need in order to graduate. So if I have five credits for the year, selecting the CR/NCR option will not bring that down to four, right?
    Thanks in advance.

    ?????????

    hey there,

    only if you fail 😉 basically, it’ll count towards your degree, but not your program (usually) or GPA. so yeah, it’ll still register as a credit that you’ve acquired this year.

    aska

    P.S. good on you for double-checking seriously that is some proactive work u r a better person than i could ever be. bless.

  • summer

    summer school enrolment MADNESS

    Hi,

    I am currently an undergrad student at another Ontario university located near UofT. I intend on taking summer courses at UofT but I am worried about how fast courses tend to get filled up at UofT. Going off UofT previous enrolment time, visiting student begin enrolling last (http://www.artsci.utoronto.ca/current/course/timetable/20135/step2) at around 5 pm of April 8th. I was hoping you could provide me some insight on whether or not I will be at a huge disadvantage registering for my summer courses

    Thanks

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    hey there,

    ok well assuming that they put you guys at the very end again (which they probably will because they’re butts what can i say), yeah, i’m not gonna lie, it’s not going to be a great situation. i mean enrolment goes really fast even without being at the end of the queue, so if you’re gonna do this, i’d recommend you have some backup courses ready, if that’s at all possible for you.

    however i’d say it’s still worth it to try! especially if you just want to take courses in certain general areas rather than HAVING to take, like, this one very specific stats course or something, you can probably figure something out that’ll work for you. plus it’s a little less crazy in the summertime, so there’s that.

    also, i know that since you’ve gone to the trouble of contacting me you probably already know to do this, but make sure that you’re at that computer at 4:50 on April 8th, on ROSI, with your first choices and backups ready beside you or in a separate document. you have to be completely prepared with what you’re going to do as soon as your start time hits, because that’s the only way you can increase your chances of getting into the classes you want.

    i know that’s not GREAT news, but good luck with it anyway! and i hope you enjoy your summer regardless of what happens, man.

    aska

  • course overload,  CR/NCR,  graduation

    a smorgasbord of graduation-related anxieties

    Hey aska,

    First off, I just want to say that you’re awesome!

    Secondly, I want to ask about graduating. (I know by the time you see this, 2nd sem will probably have started but I would like your opinion anyway). I’m in fourth year and I had intended to graduate in June but that now seems highly unlikely if not impossible. I started the fall sem with 5 classes and ended with 2 and a late withdrawal. I have been going through depression, family issues, and an overall lack of motivation for school. In the winter sem, I’m scheduled to take 6 classes, which I fear will drive me insane but I want to get as many credits as I can given I flopped the fall sem and tuition is so darn expensive. If I keep and pass those 6 classes, I will have 19.5 credits (so close!). Now, my question is what are my chances of getting a course overload so that I could still graduate in June? I know 7 classes is crazy, but I don’t want to pay more tuition in summer school. Or should I just stick with what I have and take a half credit in summer to graduate in November?

    Given that most of my classes in the winter sem will be electives, should I take advantage of the credit no credit option and use them all? (that would leave me with only 3 courses in which I would get a mark). Are CNC a “bad” sign or negatively looked upon by potential professional or masters programs? Although, I have no current intention of applying to any future program, I want to keep my options open and not screw myself over. Especially since I’m in my last year, how would this be taken? Keep in mind that I already have a .5 CNC from 3rd yr, a LWD from 1st yr, and a recent .5 LWD this past sem. How will schools look at that LWD I got in 4th year? Did I forever ruin any chances to be accepted in a masters program, for example?

    P.S sorry for the long msg and thanks

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    hey there,

    thanks! it’s super cool that you think i’m awesome because i find validation through other people instead of having a healthy sense of self-esteem. it’s people like you who help me function, man. you should feel proud. (no but seriously, i’m glad i’ve been in any way amusing/helpful to you. srs).

    alright, on to the meat.

    this is just my honest opinion, but 7 courses is really a lot. i’d say you have a valid reason for wanting them, so you might be granted course overload. by the way, you have to go through the registrar’s office to do that, so if you have reasonably good grades and you explain about wanting to graduate in June, and if the courses you want to take aren’t all incredibly demanding, there’s a definite possibility you could be granted an overload.

    buuuuuut i wouldn’t advise it, especially in your last year. i understand that the financial aspect of it isn’t a small thing, but if you’re even contemplating the idea of some kind of graduate school in the future, you don’t want to screw yourself over especially in fourth year, which is in some cases the only year grad schools look at.

    personally, i’d take the last credit over the summer. if you can, maybe try to find a summer job to alleviate that cost. trust me, i completely empathize with how hella expensive it is to pay for your education, but i think it’ll pay off in the long run.

    as for CR/NCRs, they’re only really a problem if they’re actually requirements for a graduate or professional school. since all of the courses you want to use CR/NCR on are electives, it shouldn’t prove to be too big of an issue. in fact, it might even be helpful if you think that using CR/NCR will give you a higher overall GPA (something grad/professional schools also look at). and if you’re gonna be taking 6 or even 7 courses i understand that making 1.5 CR/NCR would definitely be helpful.

    HOWEVER i have to add the mandatory cautionary that credit/no-credit isn’t a strategy, it’s a helping hand. if you think you’ll do really well in your electives and they’ll boost your GPA, then you might as well take them properly. who knows, down the line those marks might come in handy for a job application or something, and it’s a real hassle to get your mark released after you’ve made it credit/no-credit already (trust me, i work in a uoft office – people have to jump through flaming hoops backwards to get CR/NCR marks post-exams). also, if you use CR/NCR on three courses all in one year, it might look a bit suspicious to a grad/profession school, though i’d suggest you talk to any grad schools you might be interested in to make absolutely sure.

    as for the LWDs, they’re not great, and they definitely would affect something like a grad school application, but i wouldn’t say that they at all ruin your chances. obviously it depends on your overall GPA and the specific school in question, but if you’ve done well in the grad program’s prerequisites and you have a competitive average, i think you would still have a chance. especially since one of your LWDs was in first year, which is pretty much irrelevant for almost all grad/professional schools.

    also, lots of grad schools have a written application component where you can make a personal statement. that gives you a third, non-marks based chance to prove yourself as a worthy candidate. finally, most grad schools allow you to write them a letter explaining why stuff like LWDs have happened, if there’s a specific reason (don’t do that as part of your personal statement tho that’s a big no-no).

    i hope that’s been somewhat useful to you! best of luck, man, hope it goes smashingly, and congrats on graduating. you lucky butt. grr.

    aska

  • OSAP

    osap shmosap

    Hi there,

    I am a first year student in a 2 year program on OSAP, I just finished my first semester and unfortunately I am unable to move onto next semester because I failed three of seven of my courses. I logged onto my school account and it still has me registered as a student and my schedule for next semester is up. What I want to know is will my OSAP be discontinued?? Or will I still receive it in second semester?

    -Silently Stressing

    ?????????

    hey there,

    OSAP will receive a report on your academic progress at the end of this term, so you should receive your second instalment if you are continuing with school into this term, regardless of what happened in the fall. however if you’re still registered for this term and you don’t want to be because, like you said, you’re unable to continue, then?you need to call your college registrar and talk to them about that! if OSAP discovers in April that you received money for a semester when you weren’t enrolled in any classes, you’ll be forced to pay it back. and that is majorly uncool.

    hope that helps!

    aska

     

  • housing

    don’t do that pls

    I was wondering if I could get away with staying in my dorm after my final exam? I know that U of T has this policy where you MUST evacuate your dorm room after your last final exam, even if the exam period isn’t over yet.?(So if the residence closure date is Dec. 20 and my last exam is Dec. 13, I still have to leave right away so they can accommodate people for the?winter break). Can I get away with staying in residence until they
    officially close? Do you know any body who has done this?

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    lol don’t do that.

    if you have a don, they are responsible for kicking you out. if you don’t have a don, it’ll be the responsibility of some stranger who works for uoft. either way, you don’t wanna deal with that, man, trust.

    if there’s an issue where you have no accommodation for over the break, you may want to look into this or contact housing services.

    aska

    P.S. i realize i answered this question too late but i hope it will be valuable for future kids who might be considering DUPING THE SYSTEM.

  • CR/NCR,  grad school

    the mysterious world of credit no-credit

    Hello,

    This is a question that should be common, but I can’t seem to find any information online. What are the consequences, other than not receiving the credit, of getting the NCR designation? I understand that it will not affect my GPA, but will it show up on my transcript? I am not thinking of applying for grad schools at the moment, but would it lower my chances of being accepted? Finally, would a NCR designation hurt my chances of receiving scholarships or getting other honors?
    Thank you very much.

    Cheers

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    hey there,

    sorry you can’t find any info online – if it makes you feel any better, i think that not being able to find stuff online is one of the thing that most strongly unites uoft students. just know that when you’re swearing and crying at xxxx.utoronto.ca at 1am on a monday, you are part of something GREATER than YOURSELF.

    hopefully though i’ll be able to help you out just a lil’ bit.

    so first: the credit does show up on your transcript, but it just indicates pass or no-pass. so anyone looking at a CR/NCR course designation will KNOW if you’ve gotten the credit.

    numero duo: credit/no-credit is specific to uoft and a fairly new thing anyway, so there’s no like universal OPINION CAPITAL-O that grad schools have about it. if the credit is not a requirement for grad school, it shouldn’t be too much of an issue, especially if it’s just one random credit. of course not passing a class is always an issue, but if all your other classes are great, i think they’d be inclined to put less of a focus on it.

    numero trois le francais holla: scholarships and awards are highly subjective. there are some truly bizarre awards out there with all kinds of criteria, but if you mean a scholarship based on academic merit from uoft, i’d say that it might, but since it doesn’t affect GPA, it’s still worth it to apply.

    hope that helps to clear up your confuzzlement!

    aska

  • OSAP

    osap loans more like osap MOANS amirite

    dear Aska,

    This question is related to student loans. OSAP allows 6 months after your full-time studies before dropping a load of interest on top of your principal debt. Normally this allows you to not study every second semester, without interest.

    But consider the summer. Suppose you take the three courses you need to be considered full-time. Q1) If they are all F-section courses, does your ‘full term period of study’ end in July or August? Q2) If it ends in July, does that mean you can’t not study next fall semester without paying interest? Q3) How could you know these things anyway?

    Your immediate reply is very much appreciated!

    ?????????

    hey there,

    i know this reply isn’t as ‘immediate’ as you probably hoped, but i did tell you i’d be away, dude! anyway, hopefully this answer will still be useful to you.

    basically, if i’m understanding you correctly, you’re asking about doing 3.0 FCEs one fall, not doing any courses in winter or summer (to go off and party it up or sum shizzle i know how y’all are), and then going back the next fall. that means you would not be in school for eight months, so Q1) your grace period ends in July and Q2) yes, you’d have to start making payments in July, though you’d only have to make them for July and August before going back to school for September.

    as to Q3) i know because i work in an office that’s responsible for knowing these kinds of things. i haven’t for the life of me been able to find that specific information on the tragedy that is the OSAP site, but please feel free to contact them?if you wanna double-check what i’m telling you. they also might be able to let you know about any possibility of alleviating or even eliminating those two months’ worth of payments in the summer, which they can sometimes do if there are extenuating circumstances.

    good luck and toodles,

    aska