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May30

course selection frenzy

Hello! I got into u of t St George and first I just wanted to say thank you to all the admins of aska! There’s a lot of anxiety surrounding uni when you’re a senior, but this site was a haven for all my questions. So thank you 🙂 And now that I got in I have even more questions haha. Course selection! I don’t know anything about what I’m supposed to do! How many courses do I choose? How many credits do I need to graduate? Can I only choose courses revolvin from major and/or minor? Thanks again!!

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hello young one!

thank you! it’s always nice to get fanmail!

as for your questions about course selection, it’s understandable that you have no clue what’s going on! i felt like i was wandering through an impermeable haze of confusion during the summer before my first year so i totally feel you.

for first years, you’ll find out your course enrolment time (when you can log onto ACORN and enrol in courses) on july 21st. actual course enrolment starts july 27th. basically, you log onto ACORN, find the courses that you want to take by typing them into the website’s search bar, add them to your enrolment cart, and then click the enrol button on july 27th. DON’T FORGET TO ACTUALLY ENROL IN YOUR COURSES. i know tons of people who forgot because they thought that adding them to their enrolment cart enrolled them automatically. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. it’s like online shopping, you gotta check out after you put ’em in the cart.

as for how many courses, most people do 5 FCE (full course equivalents) per year in order to graduate in 4 years (you need 20 FCE to graduate, 5 times 4 = 20). of course, that is just a suggestion. some people take less and then take either an extra year or two to graduate or make up for it with summer courses. it’s all up to you! i wouldn’t suggest taking more than 5 in the first year though. while it is possible to take up to 6 FCE per year, it’s nice to be able to just figure out your pacing and see how heavy uni courses are before taking on extra courses.

in your first year (i’m also assuming that you’re in artsci), you can take any classes you want, though you should take the courses that are relevant to your programs of interest. you should also do some research on the programs that you’re interested in and check out their preqs. you can find programs and their requirements in the faculty calendar.

i would also suggest looking at the breadth requirement. though you do have your entire undergrad to fulfill these, a lot of people like to get these out of the way early. there are also a lot of breadth options in first year, such as the first year seminar classes. also, you are only allowed 6.0 100-level courses throughout your degree, so it might be a good idea to plan out how you’re going to use them.

i really hope that this helps! looking forward to seeing you on campus in september!

xoxo,

aska

Dec19

bottom of the enrolment totem pole

After having completed my BA in a humanities field at U of T I am considering switching directions and following a social sciences path. I know returning as a non-degree student is an option, but I was wondering if non-degree students have problems getting into class with enrolment restrictions or 400-level classes? Is there a way to apply for a second bachelors or something similar?

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hey!

so at U of T, we have a rule that you can’t complete a second degree in the same field as your first degree. since pursuing social sciences would give you another BA, its’s not exactly allowed. you’d have to pursue a different kind of degree, e.g. a BSc.

furthermore, it’s highly recommended that you discuss all of this with an academic advisor (registrar). you can sit down with them and have a discussion about whether or not it is practical/ necessary to pursue another degree/ more courses.

non-degree students are at the bottom of “the totem pole of priorities at U of T”, so you may end up on a waitlist/ not get into the courses you want. you’ll only be able to enrol in classes after everyone else enrols. tough, i know.

for more on how second degrees and non-degree courses work, check out this post!

i’m sorry to deliver you the cold hard truth so soon to Christmas or whichever holiday you celebrate (or not celebrate).

here’s a .gif to cheer you up.

elf buddy the elf

hope that helped. buddy the elf always makes me feel better.

stay warm,

aska

Dec08

which curriculum though?

Hi, first I would really really be happy if you could answer my question
and help me find a solution to my problem… I really appreciate the
efforts you do to help clueless students like me.

I am a 12 grader high school student living in Saudi Arabia and I’m
currently studying in a Saudi

-supervised American Diploma school section where I study both Saudi and US
subjects. MY PROBLEM IS, I don’t know which system requirement should I
follow. I checked the requirement for US system and they just require too
much.. (2 SAT subject test, SAT, IELTS+)

I can’t do all of that before the deadline of 1 Feb 2017! In my country
people start applying in summer after graduation and not during school. ????
However the Saudi curriculum requirements are so easy they only require
IELTS.
Students who study in such merged schooling systems have to ask the MOE for
a “certificate equivalency” where their transcripts get completely adjusted
to the Saudi system so they get into colleges (Some Saudi schools don’t
recognize foreign certificates). My question is; will I be able to get
admitted as a “Saudi student” if I applied with a “legally” equalized
certificate?

I hope you are able to help me

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hi,

first of all, thank you for your kind words! i wish i knew all the answers to your questions off the top of my head but sometimes these questions take time to figure out.

in regards to your question: WOW this is so complicated. this question made no sense to me so i decided to consult a registrar! they know everything. this is what they said.

“if you are following the saudi system and if the school is recognized by the ministry of education in saudi arabia as eligible to offer the saudi diploma, then applying as a saudi student is okay.

the “legally” equalized certificate is not the issue, it’s whether or not you are following the saudi system (which it sounds like you are following both saudi and US) and if the school is recognized by the ministry to offer the saudi high school diploma, then applying as a saudi student is fine.

if your school is only accredited to offer the US diploma, then you must apply as a US student.”

hope this makes more sense to you than it does to me!

if you have any more inquiries, enrolment services would probably be the best place to contact!

cheers,

aska

Jul27

IT’S ALL ABOUT TO GO DOWN

incoming first-years: it’s that time again! except for you guys, it’s “that time” for the first time, because you’ve never done it before. and no, i’m not talking about eating spaghetti meatballs with your sweetie. i’m talking about COURSE ENROLMENT.

you may have heard from older friends that course enrolment is this terrible, harrowing process, that uoft is out to get you and doesn’t want you to get into your courses, and that the system is set up for you to fail.

i’m not gonna argue with you if you want to make yourself out as a victim of The Man. but if you don’t get into any of your courses, it’s probably just because you’re a dingus who wasn’t prepared. that’s the hard truth.

FORTUNATELY FOR YOU, aska wants to help you leave the nest and become a fully-fledged, competent uoft student. so today, i am going to be resolving the most commonly asked first-year questions on course enrolment day – which, this year, is on the 28th of July, also known as TOMORROW.

1. i don’t understand what i’m supposed to take in first year – what are my mandatory courses?

there are no mandatory courses. at many other Ontario universities, the university will enrol you into your mandatory courses. you may be hearing about this from your friends at Western and Ryerson and Ottawa and feeling a twinge of panic, because you haven’t heard ANYTHING about mandatory courses, and as far as you know, you have to do all of your course enrolment yourself.

uoft isn’t a hand-holder. it’s more of a cold, distant parent that gives you abandonment issues. however, like the rich, neglected child who gets to have a lot of pool parties because their parents are always away, what may seem like a frustratingly hands-off approach will actually provide you with freedom and flexibility in the end.

unlike your friends at other schools, you have no mandatory courses, strictly speaking. as a first-year student in the Faculty of Arts & Science (excluding Rotman Commerce students), you have to figure out what courses you want to take in order to apply for programs in your second year. after first year, you’ll need to be in 1 specialist OR 2 majors OR 1 major and 2 minors, so you should enrol in the courses you’ll need to be eligible for whatever combination of programs you’re interested in.

some programs, like the international relations major, require that you take certain courses and achieve certain marks in those courses in order to be considered. other programs have no requirements at all, except for the completion of at least 4.0 credits – the mathematics major is an example of this.

so what you have to do is take a look at the calendar, figure out what program(s) you’re interested in, and see if there are courses you’ll need to take in order to be eligible to apply to those programs. once you do that, you will likely have some credits left over to take pretty much anything else you want. you may consider using them to fill breadth requirements, or simply to take courses for general interest.

2. why is my start time different from my friends’? We’re in the same year/program/board games club!

do not assume that you have the same start time as your friends. do the leg work and figure out your start time BEFORE the 28th. log in to ACORN and double-check. if you’ve never logged in to ACORN before, figure it out now. you will not be able to log in to ACORN on the day of, UNTIL your start time hits. that’s why it’s important to check NOW if you have not already.

you can do it. aska believes in you.

3. i can’t enrol myself into a course even though i meet the prerequisites!

if i were in charge of creating a transition pamphlet for first-year students, it would be a blank 8”x11” sheet of paper with two words on it: ENROLMENT CONTROLS.

if you can’t add a course to your cart on ACORN or enrol into it, and you can’t figure out why, it’s almost definitely because you don’t meet the enrolment control – i.e. the restriction or priority that allows only certain students to take the course.

for example: let’s say you’ve been admitted to Year 1 Life Sciences. you want to take MAT133Y1 because it looks more interesting than MAT135/136. but WAIT! ACORN is not letting you add the course to your enrolment cart! desperate and in despair, you go to the timetable and search ‘MAT133’ in the search bar.

you notice that there is a yellow bar that says ‘Enrolment Controls: Priority (P)’ under each lecture section for that course. you open the yellow bar to see that there is a priority for Year 1 Commerce and Year 1 Social Science students – which is not you. you’re Life Science. still following? good.

what does this priority mean? well, you’ll have to wait until August 5th at noon to enrol in a course if you don’t meet the priority. assuming there is still space, you can enrol in the course at that time. if there is an R for restricted (instead of a P for priority) and you’re not in the group of students listed, then you cannot enrol in the course at all. if there is an E, then you cannot enrol in the course directly, but must apply through the department that offers the course.

capice? good. i don’t want to hear about it any more.

4. i don’t meet the prerequisite for a course but i still managed to enrol in it! did i pull a fast one on ACORN?

no. ACORN can’t tell whether or not you have the prerequisites for a course; it’s not that smart. the main way that ACORN manages course enrolment is via enrolment controls (see above). however, that doesn’t mean that prerequisites are irrelevant. after course enrolment, departments will go through their courses and remove students – without warning or notice – from courses if they don’t meet the prerequisite(s).

you can check to see if a course has prerequisites on the course calendar.

5. why can’t i enrol in any more courses?!

you are only able to enrol in up to 5.0 credits (that includes waitlisted courses) until August 5th. on August 5th, the limit goes up to 6.0 credits. if you can’t enrol in a course that still has space, and you meet the enrolment control, it may be because you’ve hit your limit.

best of luck on the day of, kids. and remember: no matter how difficult you find course enrolment to be, it’s only gonna get harder from here on out.

cheers,

aska

Jul08

how to say waitlist in robot

Hi, so I thought I wanted to do life sci but now I want to switch to comp sci, and course registration is coming up. Comp sci kids have priority for those courses so i cant register until august 5. What is the likelihood that i wont get those courses by then? Is there anything i can do cause i know that i dont want to do life sci for sure so itd be a complete waste of a year if i cant get those comp sci courses. Should i just register for life sci courses right now and wait until august 5th to try to sign up for comp sci courses or try contacting the comp sci department? I’m so worried cause I dont want to waste an entire year! your insight would be greatly appreciated!

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hey there,

assuming you want to do a computer science specialist, there are five (half-year) courses you’re going to need to get into for your first year. lucky for you, TWO of them (MAT135 and 136) include life science students in their priority. that means you’ve only got three courses to worry about: CSC108H1, CSC148H1 and CSC165H1. and yes, ALL of them only prioritize first-year computer science students. and yes, if you don’t take CSC108H1, you can’t take the other two, which have 108 as a prerequisite.

HOWEVER. the department knows that incoming computer science students are not the only people who will be taking these courses. aside from people who want to get into the program, you have upper-years who need to repeat them, and people taking the courses for general interest. so they make a LOT of lecture sections. and yes, most of them will fill up quickly with first years, but that doesn’t mean you’re entirely out of luck.

bulldog comforting

if you feel lost in the days leading up to course enrolment, remember this bulldog

all the lecture sections of CSC108, combined, make space for 1160 students. that is several times the number of students who are accepted into the 1st Year Computer Science stream every year. it’s a similar case for CSC148 and 165, though obviously there are fewer spots in those because not everyone will take/pass CSC108, and so not everyone will be able to take the follow-up courses.

so yes, you do have a chance of getting into these courses, even if you have to wait for the priority to lift. you may have to wait list, you may not get into your ideal lecture sections, but it’s not hopeless.

that being said, i would strongly recommend having backup courses, not just in case you don’t get into the computer science courses (though that is a valid concern), but also in case you take the courses and don’t get into the program, or you decide you don’t like them and want to go in a different direction.

phoebe pla

don’t be phoebe on course enrolment day. have a plan A. have a plan B. have a plan everything-is-going-wrong-but-i’m-gonna-save-the-day-at-the-last-minute (also know as plan EIGWBIGSTDATLM)

even if you do get into all the computer science courses you need, you will have space left over in first year to take courses other than computer science courses, so take advantage of that! explore the calendar, take chances on courses that intrigue you, and remember that no matter what happens, it’s not the end of the world.

and p.s. you’re never “wasting” years. university is complicated and hard and whether it takes you four years or six or twenty, it’s all good!

cheers,

aska

Jun23

a particularly early panic

I’m a transfer student, admitted as a second year student. ACORN won’t let me enrol in any first year course (because they are restricted to first year students) and it won’t let me enrol in second year courses (because they have first year courses as prerequisites). Will I be able to enrol in ANY first year course after they lift the priority restriction? I’m worried about availability (in courses such as MAT135H, BIO120H or CHM135H). What can I actually enrol in???? HELP!

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hey there,

the definition of a priority is that it does lift, which is good news for you. beginning on August 5th, all priorities lift, which means that anyone in the faculty of arts & science can get into a course, as long as there’s space and you meet any prerequisites. all three of the courses you listed have priorities (as opposed to any other kind of enrolment control), so August 5th is the golden date for you.

yes, it’s frustrating that you have to wait so long. yes, it’s possible the courses will fill up, and for that reason you should have backups. trust me; i’ve been there. i’ve lived it. however, all of these first-year life science courses are very large, so there will be lots of space, in multiple different lecture sections (and in some instances, in both semesters).

the other thing i would recommend you do if you haven’t already is to take a look at whatever transfer credits you may have received from your previous college or university. depending on your program over there, you may not have gotten too many relevant credits, but you should definitely check; maybe you don’t have to take some of these first-year sciences because you already have credits for them!

cheers,

aska

Jun16

y’all better remember this when the time comes

I am adding courses to my enrollment cart on acorn but it says enrollment is blocked for one of the courses I want. Is it because I am a second year student and it is a 100 level course? Will this go away once enrollment for first year students opens?

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hey there,

the most likely reason is that you don’t currently meet an enrolment control that applies to that course. if you’d told me what course you’re having difficulty with, this could’ve been a lot easier, but now i guess we’ll have to do this *cracks knuckles* the hard way.

enrolment controls restrict who can sign up for courses, and when. sometimes, a course will have a priority for certain students, which means that students who don’t fit the priority have to wait until a later date (usually in the first week of August) to sign up for the course. sometimes, courses are restricted, which means that only certain students can enrol in it, ever. sometimes courses have an ‘E’ indicator, which means that you have to apply through the department that offers the course in order to take it.

how are people prioritised and restricted, you might ask? well, it’s usually based on subject POSts, though it can also be based on year of study. if you’re not in the right year or program, then you won’t be able to enrol in the course – or indeed, put it in your enrolment cart.

now for the final piece of the puzzle: how can you tell whether a course has an enrolment control? what you have to do is find your course on the timetable and look under the column called ‘enrolment indicator.’ see if there’s a letter there. if there’s not, then you have no problem!

if there is a ‘P’ (priority) or ‘R’ (restriction) (or some other letter, though those are less common), then you need to click on the ‘See Details’ in the column to the right. that will tell you who the course is prioritised for or restricted to. it will either say something like ‘1st year life science students’ or list subject POSts. if you’re not in the listed category/-ies, then you’re fresh outta luck, my man. play again next time.

cheers,

aska

P.S. i’d only like to explain this once this year, so if y’all could remember this for when course enrolment time comes around instead of freaking out for a solid three hours after your start time, that would be RADICAL.

Jan26

i can’t even conceptualize summer right now

Hi! When does the 2016 summer timetable come out, and when can we begin enrolling in summer courses for that session? Thank you 🙂

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hey there,

the preliminary timetable will probably be available sometime in mid-to-late February, and the final timetable in mid-March. enrolment for summer courses will be happening in late April/early May.

so it all doesn’t get going for a while yet, but good for you for being on top of things. i could take a leaf from your book; i’m not on top of things right now, lemme tell you. i’m not even level with things. i’m like, below them, being squished by them. gee, i sure love the Winter term.

cheers,

aska

Dec17

tired of hotline bling videos

Hey Aska!

I want to apply to the social science program at UTSG, specifically for health studies. As a prospective dental student,I want to know if I am able to take life science courses throughout the four years of undergrad. I heard from someone that life science courses are available to social science students in the first and second year, so are they still available for the third and fourth? I also want to confirm with you a few rumors that I have heard.

1. Social science programs require 20 page papers in every course that are wholly subjective in its marking, so achieving a high GPA is actually very difficult, sometimes more so than life science.

2. A health studies degree is useless unless you enroll in graduate school, professional school, or get a masters degree.

And one last question. How do you know EVERYTHING [?]? I feel like I’m sending a question to Buddha LOL. Thank you so much for your help! I’m actually so glad I stumbled upon this holy ground. <3

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hey there,

the rumours that you have heard are probably originating from something?correct, but they’ve been warped so many times through the broken telephone game of uoft gossip that they’re not at all helpful to you now.

here’s how it actually works:

most upper-year life science courses require you to take some combination of your basic, first-year life science courses: first year chemistry, first year math, first?year environmental and evolutionary biology, first year cellular and molecular biology, and sometimes first year physics.

these courses usually have a priority.?that means that they are usually open to all students, but they open to first-year life science students?first. so life sci kids get their first pick, and classes could fill up before you have a chance to enrol.

HOWEVER, none of these courses are required for the health studies specialist. they recommend BIO120H1 and BIO130H1, but even with the priority, those classes are so big that you still have a reasonable chance of getting in if you’re responsible with enrolling on time.

that being said, if you only take bio, some of the upper-year chemistry and math-based courses may?not be accessible to you, since you won’t have the first-year prereqs. if you really do want a science degree and take all those courses, though, then just apply to the life science stream. it’ll be a lot easier on you.

1) ? ?there is no way you will be writing a 20-page paper in your first year. if you have to write a 10-page paper in your first year, that would be an anomaly. 10 pages and above are typically the realm of fourth year and master’s programs.

secondly, yes, it is difficult to get a high GPA in the social sciences – it’s going to be difficult in any program – but that is not because marking is “wholly subjective.” there is a rhyme and reason to how professors mark papers, and their expectations?will be communicated to you.

also, while we’re on the topic,?i’m tired of people throwing around the word “subjective” as a shorthand for “completely meaningless.” subjectivity does not equal meaninglessness.

yes, you argue subjective points in the social sciences, but that’s the whole point of them. you are talking about people, to people, and people are?subjects. to be a good writer is to convince subjects, and to use the word “subjective” to dismiss a whole discipline is an insidious part of the devaluing of the social sciences and humanities. so DON’T DO IT.

2) ? ?yes and no. if you end up going to dentistry school, you don’t have to worry about that. however, a lot can change over the course of a four-year degree. maybe you don’t want to go to dentistry school at the end of your four years at uoft, and you’re left trying to get a job with just your B.Sc.

i’m not gonna lie, it will be difficult trying to get a job in your field without any further qualifications beyond a bachelor’s degree. however, there are lots of options when it comes to further qualifications. some of them involve?a second university degree – like dentistry, nursing, pharmacy, medical school, research etc. some of them?will?require a post-grad diploma from a college, like becoming a lab or medical technician.

also, note the important qualification of “in your field”: it’s not impossible to get?a job without a secondary degree, it’s just that you won’t be working in a hospital or clinic without some kind of specialized diploma or degree.

3) it’s because i’m an all-seeing minor deity.

(but seriously, i COULD tell you how i know everything, but then i’d be revealing my SECRET IDENTITY, and that just wouldn’t do).

cheers,

aska

P.S. thank you for your absolutely smashing e-mail subject line. i’ve made it the title of this post because it’s just too good.

Dec14

a B.A. in science, or what i like to call…just a regular B.Sc.

Hello!!!

I would like do complete another BA. My previous BA I completed at Ryerson University and this time I would like to complete it at UFT. Reason being, career change and my grades from my previous BA are simply not high enough for the program I would like to qualify for.

My undergraduates degree was Early Childhood Education, this time I would like to complete a degree majoring with the sciences. My questions are as follows:

Can I complete another BA?

In high school I only took the required sciences, do I need to go back and take the science courses I missed?

In doing this, will UFT look negatively on my application?

Many thanks

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hey there,

unfortunately, you cannot complete a second B.A. if you already have a B.A.

HOWEVER, since you want to major in a science, you’re probably not looking at an arts degree anyway, but a B.Sc. so your first question is kind of irrelevant.

you can take a look at exactly which high school science courses you need for the degree program of study you’re interested in here.

if you have to take some high school courses now in order to be eligible to apply, no, the university will not count that against your application.

best of luck with it,

aska

Dec11

non. (degree)

Hi,

I was wondering if there were any conflicts/downfalls or perks/upsides to?registering as a non-degree student at UofT in order to enrol in summer?undergraduate courses prior to registering full-time in September.

Some background – I am currently finishing my masters out-of-province this?spring, and am “starting over’, or at least from the bottom, in psychology.

Thanks!

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hey there,

the main downfall is that it’s typically not allowed.

non-degree is only available to students who have already been enrolled at uoft and graduated, or for students who have applied specifically for non-degree studies.

if you have never studied here and you’ve?been accepted for a degree program starting in 2016-2017, then you’ll most likely only be able to begin in september 2016.

however, you can always talk to the registrar’s office at the college you’ve been accepted to to see if a special arrangement can be made for you to get started early. there’s no guarantee, but since you already have a master’s degree and you’re starting over, it may be a possibility.

if they do allow it, there’re no real academic repercussions. you’ll have to pay a little more, since tuition fees for fall/winter don’t cover summer courses, so that’s annoying and also may or may not be possible depending on the funds at your disposal.

another thing to consider is that the courses you want to take may not be offered in the summer term. take a look at what was offered last summer to get an idea of the usual course offerings.

other than that, if it’s allowed and you want to do it, go forth and prosper (i.e. die slowly indoors while everyone is outside enjoying their summer).

good luck with your new degree! i hope it serves you well.

aska

Sep25

i’ll never let go *cue celine dion*

Hey aska,

I’m interested in doing HIS280, but unfortunately its a year-long course that clashes in timing with a fall course and a winter course that are important for me to do. Would you happen to know the procedure for requesting another lecture section for HIS280?

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hey there,

unfortunately there’s only one lecture section available for HIS280H1, and you can’t really request that another one be opened up – that’s up to the department to decide on their own, in cases of overwhelming demand.

you would have to find a way to work the rest of your schedule around the HIS280, or let go of it.

keep in mind you have until this sunday to do this!

cheers,

aska

Sep16

blocked at every turn

Hi!
I recently accidentally waitlisted in another math course than my original?one, and switched back ASAP. However, I noticed that in the process, ACORN?withdrew me from the tutorial that I had previously selected and now it?says “enrollment blocked”. Is there any way for me to get back into that?tutorial? since I understand that you technically cannot waitlist in a?tutorial to begin with..
Thanks!

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hey there,

not sure why the enrolment is blocked, but it’s probably because the tutorial is full.

if the tutorial is full, then there’s no way to do it on ACORN yourself. the best thing to do would be to contact the department and let them know what happened to see if they can put you back in the tutorial.

also check to see if there is any other open tutorial that you can sign up for.

other than that, all you can do is hope that a tutorial will open up. remember, you have until September 27th to add and change F and Y section courses, so keep an eye on them dates.

xoxo,

aska

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