• commerce,  economics,  polisci

    Only Read This if You Are Willing to do Math – ie commerce shiz

    October 7, 2011

    Hi!

    I just started grade 12 and am trying to figure out what programs to apply to. I’m trying to look for the most effective way to combine business and political science- is it possible to double major in political science and some sort of business administration/commerce at U of T?

    Thanks a bunch,

    Janna

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    Hey hey!!

    You actually have a few options here!

    So for all the number combos I’m about to give you, remember that in order to graduate you must have 20 credits

    Rotman Commerce actually doesn’t offer majors, only specializations. There are three different fields that you can specialize in. Here they are:

    1)Accounting Specialist (B.Com) = 15 full courses or their equivalent out of 20 courses, for a B.Com

    2) Finance and Economics Specialist (B.Com) = 13.5 full courses or their equivalent out of 20 courses, for a B.Com

    3) Management Specialist (B.Com) = 12 full courses or their equivalent out of 20 courses, for a B.Com

     

    So that leaves you space to take courses in another field (ie Poli Sci) in order graduate.

    a) Political Science Major = 7.0 POL full courses or their equivalent

    b) Political Science Minor = 4.0 Pol full courses or their equivalent
    Here’s the basic formula for you:
    Option 3 + Option a = 19 credits (ie good to go)
    So it’s up to you if you would like to have a major or minor in poli sci and if it exceed the 20 credits or not depending on the Commerce Specialization you choose .

    Oh geez there are more options. If economics is the field that what to study you can choose a non-rotmans/commerce degree of economics, which has various specialists, majors and minors to choose from.

    So in short, yes, you can.

    To look all this info up yourself check out the Course Calendar

    love always,
    aska

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  • admissions,  commerce

    the next donald trump wants in!

    May 24, 2011

    Heya!

    Has the new minimum cgpa for utm commerce 2011 been announced yet? Would appreciate it if you could help me out, thanks!

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    Hey man,

    I’ve looked at their website and it doesn’t look like it’s been released yet. Cryptic, no? That really sucks because Round 2 of Subject PoSt applyin’ is set to begin and I bet you’d like to know if you have a shot, right? The best thing I can suggest then, is hassling the UTM Commerce program (who can be contacted here), disclosing your current CGPA and seeing if you have a shot. Bonne chance!

    xoxo, Askastudent

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  • commerce

    Sneaky Commerce Students

    October 25, 2010

    Hey Aska,

    I have had this question for so long and I need an answer. Does UofT have any policy against going to the course you aren’t enrolled in? Like going to a cellular biology class when are you in the commerce program. Or continue going to a course that you dropped.

    Many thanks,
    Kevin.

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    Hey Dexter (AKA Kevin)

    I’m assuming that the only reason you would like to sit in Cellular Biology classes with the workload of Commerce is because you have the urge to kill and need to satisfy it. I can only assume that Cellular Biology will teach you how to accomplish this with ease (that’s what Biology classes are right? a segway into Murdering 101)

    A formal way of going about this would be to have the class audited. Pretty much it says you were in the class but not receiving a credit for it. Here is the policy for it at U of T.

    Ultimately its probably up to the professors discretion.
    But straight up, i would use your sneaky Dexter skills and just sit in on the class if it’s, for example a massive Con Hall class that no one really knows who’s in the class or not. Go until someone kicks you out.

    Love Always,
    Aska

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  • commerce

    managing management school

    October 15, 2010

    Hi, I was wondering if it is possible to get a degree at UTM by doing a major in management, minor in earth science and a minor in psychology, thanks.

    – Jay

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    Yo yo Jay,

    Mainly yes, but a little bit no.

    There are different management degrees that you could be getting and not all of them allow multiple minors
    Check it

    Now if you choose the Bachelor of Arts Commerce major than one of graduation requirement options is: 1 Major and 2 Minors which would allow what your looking to do.

    If you want to see for your own eyes, here’s the page from the course calendar.

    Pop in and see an academic adviser if your still having some doubts because they rock at helping with all your specifics

    Love Always and Forever,
    Aska

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  • admissions,  commerce,  economics

    Spend Money to Make Money … ?

    October 8, 2010

    Hi, Im in my second year and i am completing courses for a financial economics specialist giving me a bsc. I was wondering if i could do a Bcom concurrently and end up with both degrees. There is some overlap between courses (like eco100, eco206, eco208) and i just wanted to know the allowed amount of overlap to get both degrees if possible. I am open to taking summer courses to get this done
    thanks

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    Unfortunately the University of Toronto doesn’t allow large ambitions such as you own. I’m sure ‘biting off more than you can chew’ and ‘your eyes are bigger than you stomach’ apply to this situation … or maybe its just because too many of the courses overlap
    As a financial economic specialist they limit the other programs that you allowed to be enrolled in. The course calendar is very clear on this matter, it states the following under your program requirements:
    “This is a limited enrollment program. Students enrolled in this program cannot simultaneously be enrolled in any other Economics specialist, joint specialist, major or minor program in Economics, or in Economic History or in the B.Com program.”

    As you said your taking the courses for the specialist, I’m assuming your not yet enrolled in it quite yet

    So, I would suggest that you consider what path of Economic Finance that you want to get into because the Finance and Economics (B.Com) will lead you in a different direction than the Financial Economics (BSc). Look at the courses that are offered for both degrees and see which ones interest you more. Rotman does offer a Major program, but it is rarely taken as the cost to be enrolled in Rotman Commerce is the same for the Specialist.

    Course Calendar: Rotman Commerce & Economics

    Rotman Commerce is significantly more costly than the economics program, so this is a decision that you should probably be firm in unless your the lost child of Donald Trump

    Ultimately i would most likely suggest making an appointment at your registrar and chatting it over with them. They can guide you to which program better suits your interests and endeavors.

    ‘I’d like to live as a poor man with lots of money’? ~Pablo Picasso

    oooooh Pablo, thanks for your wisdom

    Love yours truly,
    Aska


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  • commerce,  transfer credits

    get the hell out of windsor!

    September 17, 2010

    I’m currently studying at the University of Windsor for business administration and I am in my first year of the first semester, and was thinking of transferring to the University of Toronto (downtown campus) for business administration or commerce. So, I was wondering how I would go about doing that i.e forms to fill out, credits needed, documentation needed etc. Also before I went to Windsor I was thinking of going to go to UofT but I didn’t take the mandatory calculus course so I didn’t apply. So I was wondering how does UofT access possible transfer students, do they only look at University courses or do they also look at high school courses. If UofT does look at high school courses and considering I didnt take the course needed for the program at UofT does that mean I’d be rejected? Any feedback, advice or answers would be greatly apprecaited. Thank you in advance!

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    Already in your first year and waiting to get out of there, eh? Before you do so, maybe give Windsor a chance before you consider switching? Oh wait, it’s Windsor. I advise you to get the hell out of there as fast you can.

    Basically in order to complete your switchover to U of T’s hallowed halls, you’ll have to contact the Transfer Credit Office. All the necessary information to attempt a transfer is detailed on this website. But I will recap the FAQs for you.

    How do I apply?

    Students wishing to transfer to the U of T should complete an application form available from the Ontario Universities’ Application Centre or from the University of Toronto Office of Admissions and Awards.

    The Faculty of Arts and Science has a minimum two-year residency requirement. The Faculty does not normally accept as degree candidates, students who have completed more than two years (10 full credits) beyond the grade 12/OAC level at university – such students may apply as Special Students (i.e. those who are not proceeding towards a University of Toronto degree).

    What do they take?

    Acceptance of Transfer Credits
    Acceptance of transfer credits among Ontario universities shall be based on the recognition that, while learning experiences may differ in a variety of ways, their substance may be virtually equivalent in terms of their content and rigour. Insofar as possible, acceptance of transfer credit should allow for the maximum recognition of previous learning experience in university-level courses.

    Subject to degree, grade and program requirements, any course offered for credit by one university shall be accepted for credit by another Ontario university when there is virtual equivalency in course content.

    Assessment of Transfer Credits
    The assessment of previous post-secondary studies for transfer credit is compulsory. Failure to comply with the stated procedures and/or resolve any outstanding obligations, such as the submission of additional documentation or the completion of departmental interviews, within your first registered session of degree studies will result in the refusal of further course enrolments.

    When will I know?

    Length of Process

    • Assessment response time varies depending on a number of factors – e.g.: whether or not the documentation in your file is complete, where your studies were completed (e.g.: at a College of Applied Arts and Technology (CAAT)/College Institute of Technology and Advanced Learning (CITAL) or outside of Canada), the time period during which your request is received (mid-June to mid-August is our peak period).
    • Normally, a domestic assessment takes approximately 3-4 weeks and a foreign assessment up to 10 weeks.

    Hopefully you found that helpful. They will definitely make their decision based on your first year marks at Windsor so do well, so you can get the hell out of there! In terms of whether or not you will need a high school calculus class, that may be a question that needs to be consulted with the Commerce Program. Contact them here.

    xoxo, Askastudent

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  • commerce,  courses,  first year

    graduating like a flash

    August 30, 2010

    Hi yo, I will be becoming a U of T frosh 3 weeks later and studying at Rotman Commerce, and I got couple questions want to ask @@
    I know that during the summer term we can maximumly to take 2 credits, so I am curious about can I take 5.5 credits in my first and second year and then take all 4 credits in 2 summer terms,
    eventually if everything is fine I can graduate within 3 years instead of original 4 years……Is it Possible?
    I know it is pretty hard but I want to try try =]

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    Hey there. Your ambitious plan can totally work, but it doesn’t really sound like fun, does it? You can totally take up to six credits a year and up to two in your summer session, which would keep you at a steady clip of eight credits a year, fulfilling your 20 credit degree in two and half a years if you really wanted to…but you would cry forever trying to maintain that pace, especially with the intense Commerce course load.

    Obviously it’s up to you to decide how to pursue your degree and at what rate. Many students end up taking a maximum of five full year credits a year because it’s enough to handle, especially if they also have to work to support themselves. Basically feel free to do what you want – but consider what classes are available, the workload involved and how to plan your degree accordingly so you can also pursue experiences that are worthwhile (such as internships, after school activities and fruitful relationships). Talk to your college registrar to plan a course schedule that works with what you want to pursue. Rotman also offers very valuable resources like peer tutors and study groups that are fun and social.

    And have fun! Don’t spend your entire life in Robarts. Think of your skin!

    xoxo, Askastudent

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  • breadth requirements,  commerce,  courses

    critical commerce calculations

    August 19, 2010

    Hi,

    I am a newly admitted Commerce Year 1 student and have a question about CR/NCR. I chose a seminar in BR=1 and wanted to take it on CR/NCR basis. However, I am not sure that if I choose this model of assessment, will the seminar I chose count as Breadth Requirements and satisfy the Program Requirements that “STUDENTS MUST COMPLETE at least 1.0 FCE from Category 1 in order to satisfy Breadth Requirements” and “Students Must Complete 10 RSM courses and 10 Non-RSM courses in order to graduate ?” Thank you!

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    Hi there! I believe it does. But what do I know, let’s consult the Calendar, shall we?

    Faculty Breadth Requirement for B.Com. Students

    Students beginning degree studies in September 2010 or after are required to complete the following Breadth Requirement as part of their Degree Requirements. (The Distribution Requirement described following this section does not apply to such students.)

    Courses in the Faculty of Arts and Science are classified into five Breadth categories by subject content. (Note that some courses are not designated and do not count toward this requirement.). The purpose of the Breadth Requirement is to ensure all students graduating with an Honours degree from the Faculty of Arts & Science have chosen courses across a broad range of subject areas in the Faculty as part of their undergraduate education.

    1. Creative and Cultural Representations
    2. Thought, Belief, and Behaviour
    3. Society and Its Institutions
    4. Living Things and Their Environment
    5. The Physical and Mathematical Universes

    Students must take at least 4 full-course equivalents (FCEs) that have been designated as satisfying the Breadth Requirement. These 4 credits must be either (a) at least 1 FCE in each of any 4 of the 5 categories above, or (b) at least 1 FCE in each of any 3 of the 5 categories, and at least 0.5 FCE in each of the other 2 categories. As part of the degree requirements for the B.Com., STUDENTS MUST COMPLETE at least 1.0 FCE from Category 1 (Creative and Cultural Representations).
    Note that there is no Breadth Requirement status for MGT120H1/MGT201H1, COM110H1, RSM100Y1, and tHAT 100-series courses in CSC, MAT, STA; STA250H1, STA255H1, STA257H1, STA352Y1 cannot be used to satisfy the Breadth Requirement.

    A course’s Breadth designation can be found following the course description in the Calendar for the year in which the course is taken. (Note: the 2010-2011 printed Calendar contains designations FOR 100-series and 200-series courses only. Designations FOR 300- and 400-series courses FOR 2010-2011 will be available in the Faculty’s web site in Summer 2010.)

    Courses count toward the Breadth Requirement as they have been classified in the Calendar of the year in which they were taken.

    Students may count towards the Breadth Requirement any course which has a Breadth designation, and in which they have achieved standing, whether or not the course is used to satisfy a Subject POSt requirement, and whether or not the course was taken as CR/NCR.

    As for your second question, I am a little bit confused. I see that the calendar has written this: Note: Students must take a minimum of 10.0 RSM and 10.0 non-RSM courses (See B. Com. degree requirements above).
    ECO374H1 is strongly recommended.

    But I think that’s in tandem with fulfilling the course requirements of your degree, laid out in full in the calendar. Essentially if you are following the requirements for your degree, and taking the five breadth requirements, you will more than fulfill the 10 RSM/10 non-RSM degree requirements since most of those classes have to be in other disciplines like MAT, ECO, STA, etc. Double check with the calendar and your registrar, always and keep your calculator handy!

    xoxo, Askastudent

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  • commerce,  economics,  summer

    no way, ECO100 as popular as Mr. Aska? riiiiiiiight…

    April 16, 2010

    Hi, I am a first year commerce student, and I cant seem to shake a nervous twitch. In order to get into second year commerce, I needed to take ECO100, which I did, but dropped to take it in the summer for better grades. Today was the first day to enroll in summer courses, and after being just 2 hours late after the doors opened on ROSI, I was put on the waiting list in spot 30 behind 120 being accepted.

    This obviously isn’t fresh news, and I’m sure many students have had the same problem. However at the risk of my guaranteed acceptance into second year commerce, I cant help but feel uneasy. If anyone has any experience dealing with this sort of situation and can offer me any advice or solutions, I would very much appreciate it. Thank you.

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    I understand how you feel, but the only way students can enroll in a course is through ROSI, and neither Commerce nor your college registrar can override this. There?s not much you can do ? that is, unless you?re willing to seek out the 30 students who are ahead of you on the waitlist and bribe them to let you take the course *hint hint nudge nudge wink wink*.

    Rumour has it that after the first few days of summer course enrollment, extra spots were added for all sections of ECO100. In fact, I JUST checked ROSI and all the ECO100 lecture sections have 150+ spots now! So I?m guessing that you?ve already been enrolled in the course. Hmm. I never knew ECO100 was this popular. What? Am I jealous? *aska rolls his eyes unconvincingly* I’ll bet my job ECO100 isn’t as popular as me… wait… wha-what do you mean I’m fired?

    If you?re not enrolled in the course, you may have reason to worry. For some reason, students have been craaaaazy about taking economics in summer school this year.? I highly recommend talking to your college to find out the backup options available. For example, it may be possible to take an economics course from another campus or University and have it count towards the entry requirement for Commerce. If not, perhaps you could forgo the guarantee for now, and apply later to commerce as a regular Arts and Science student. Either way, you should definitely talk to your registrar.

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  • commerce,  languages,  UTSC

    managing management with french fun

    November 16, 2009

    Hey Aska! Glad you’re back! 🙂

    Anyway I’d like to ask if it was possible to get a minor in French in the Management program at UTSC! I know it’d be hard to fit in a major, so that’s why I was thinking of a minor. I asked the representatives and they didn’t answer my question, they just told me how they were going to build a pool…I don’t even swim!

    Oh and how does the Management program at UTSC compare to Schulich or Rotman or Western…etc? I’m planning to do the co-op management program there if I get in.

    Thanks 🙂

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    Wait, which co-op management are you talking about? I just checked out the UTSC calendar and there seems to be many management programs: specialist in management, specialist in management and economics, specialist in management and accounting. well, I’m gonna go ahead and assume that you’re going into the specialist in management program, since you’ve never mentioned anything about economics or accounting or management and what not. I guess they are pretty similar anyway. Unfortunately, it seems that there previously existed a specialist in management and humanities at UTSC, but that program’s been phased out as of this year.

    Okay, I’m trying to count the number of FCE credits required for the specialist in management program but it’s like next to impossible. Let’s see.

    First try: 14 credits.

    Second try: 14.5 credits.

    Third try: 13 credits.

    Fourth try: 14.5 credits.

    Okay. I’m going to go ahead and say that it is 14.5 credits (What do you mean it’s a good thing that aska’s not in management himself/herself!). Friend of aska just counted it, and he also counted 14.5 credits. You can try to count it yourself if you want to be more confident with my answer (or if you’re interested in a program other than specialist in management). Each half-course (the ones that end with an ‘H’) counts as 0.5 credit and each year-course (the ones that end with a ‘Y’) counts as 1.0 credit.

    Oh, but what’s this? Apparently 2.5 credits required for the Management specialist are just ‘non-management/economics’ courses. Your French courses can certainly count towards those. In fact, the French minor requires only 4 credits in total, and you’ll be taking around 20 credits in your entire degree. With the overlap taken into account, you only need 16 credits in total, so taking a French minor is totally doable!!

    I totally don’t blame you for not figuring this out yourself though. The UTSC website sucks. *shakes fist at computer*

    If you’re passionate about doing a French minor, do it. It’ll broaden your frontiers and give you a lot of valuable skills that you wouldn’t get from just a management specialist alone, as well as improves your marketability (if that’s what floats your boat). Don’t let those old dreams die.

    As for how the management programs at each campus are different, I don’t really know. The types of your courses seem pretty similar. Anyway, there are other issues to consider – have you visited each campus? Doing that might give you an idea of which campus’s environment you like more. There might be other considerations, such as how far you live from each campus, whether you plan to live on residence, and so on. Oh, and of course, UTSC has co-op, if that’s important to you. The closest thing UTM and Rotman have is the PEY (Professional Experience Year), which is open to all undergraduate students. You may also want to check the fees for each institute, since cost may also be a factor in your decision. For instance, commerce students pay elevated fees in Years 2-4 at Rotman, and I believe the fees at UTSC/UTM are handled similarly. You can find more information on fees here (warning: prepare yourself for yet another confusing webpage).

    As for Western and Schulich, they probably have different fees — you might want to check them up. Another thing to note is that you only enter Western’s Ivey program after 2nd year. The first two years are taken with another faculty, so it might give you the chance to explore another subject (like French!). On the other hand, if you want a more business-intensive program, you might feel like you are wasting your first two years away, so it might not be for you.

    …I hope that post was long enough for you, because I’m exhausted from thinking too hard. Jeez, the things I do for you people.

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  • commerce,  psychology,  subject POST,  UTSC

    To market, to market, to buy a fat irritation.

    May 28, 2009

    Just wondering, can i double major in commerce (marketing) and? psychology in 4 years? Or would it take longer? If it works, would I be attending UofT or UofT Scarborough ? Because it says nothing about double majors on the UofT website, but it does on the UofTS one. Last but not least, if I do double major, am I getting 2 degrees or just one?

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    I won’t lie, it took me a while to decipher this query my friend. And I still haven’t really figured it out.

    First, what is the Major in “Commerce (Marketing)” that you are referring to?

    Scarborough offers a Specialist in Management & Marketing. St. George offers a Major in Commerce.

    I guess I’ll just answer your question for both scenarios… (sigh).

     

    Scenario 1: Specialist in Management & Marketing, UTSC

    A 13.0-credit program that leads to a B.B.A. degree.

    If you were enrolled in this program, you would strictly be a UTSC student. Sadly, you CANNOT enrol in 2 programs on 2 different campuses at the same time. The best you could do is to take all of your remaining electives (and no more than 10.0) as St. George Psychology courses – but those would never manifest as a Program on your transcript.

    Of course, you could just take the Management & Marketing Specialist at Scarborough, and pair it with a Major or Minor in Psychology from Scarborough as well. This would be much cleaner, and you would receive recognition for both Programs. Since the Major requires 7.0 credits, it would be a tight squeeze to finish those alongside the 13.0 Marketing credits in 20.0 credits over 4 years. I’m not saying it can’t be done, and you can always take more than 20.0 courses doing summer school and whatnot. The Minor is much more reasonable.

     

    Scenario 2: Major in Commerce, St. George

    A 7.5-credit program that leads to a Hon.B.A. degree. It must be paired with at least 1 more major or 2 minors. If the other Major is a science program (e.g. Psych), you will by default get an Hon.B.Sc. degree.

    In this case, you CAN complete both a Major in Rotman Commerce and a Major in Psychology, as a St. George student. Commerce requires 7.5 credits. Psych requires 6.5 credits. You need 20.0 credits to graduate. This still leaves you with 6.0 credits to blow on whatever tickles your fancy. (…did someone say “The Sun and its Neighbours??”)??

    But listen up! The Commerce Major does not have an explicit concentration in Marketing. You may elect to take a bunch of marketing courses (e.g. RSM250, 350, 452, 458), but in the end it will still be the more general Major in Commerce.

    Sound decent? Here’s the kicker. Rotman Commerce courses are hella expensive. Whether you are in the Major or one of the Specialists, beginning in your 2nd year you will pay a yearly “program fee” ($10,481 right now). This flat fee will cover all of the courses you take between 3.0-6.0 credits.

    Compare that to the brand new Arts & Science flat fee, which covers 4.0-6.0 credit courseloads, of $5300-ish. And for all of this moola you would spend for Commerce, the Major still only entitles you to a B.A. degree not the B.Com that the Specialist will yield.

     

     

    Scenario 3: Rotman Commerce Specialist (Accounting, Finance & Economics, or Management), St. George

    I’ve added an additional scenario for your consideration. It is my suggested alternative to Scenario 2. You will still pay the high Commerce flat fees, but you will get a B.Com degree (wooooo). You can pair this with a Major or Minor in Psychology downtown. Which Commerce Specialist is best for you? Well, none of them really. You’ll notice that there isn’t a Marketing option per se.

    I’m thinking that the Major or Minor programs in Semiotics offered through Victoria College, downtown, may have relevance to the field of Marketing. Maybe some Sociology courses as well?? I’m reaching now.

     

    Okay finally. In response to your last question (and it should be obvious by now), you do not get 2 degrees for having a double major. You get one degree that will say something more generic like Hon.BA., Hon.BSc, B.Com, or B.B.A. To achieve that degree you must complete a minimum combination of Programs: 1 Specialist, 2 Majors, and 1 Major + 2 Minors. ?

     

    Ps. The U of T Arts & Science website explains double Majors, and the like, in the 2009-10 Calendar, see “Program Requirements.” But I can’t blame you for not finding it. U of T websites are notoriously bloated with text and they navigate like a labyrinth, but without the prospect of discovering David Bowie’s bulge.

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  • commerce,  innis,  residence,  switching,  woodsworth

    see ya there

    April 24, 2009

    Hi,

    I have just received acceptance from UT Commerce Innis College, but I wasn’t guarenteed in the Innis Residence…I looked at some of the posts and I saw some guy last year had same situation as me. Anyways, I did contact the Innis Residence by email by the way even though I didn’t get a response yet. Oh yeah, Do you know why they send response so late? I have been waiting 2 days now with no response.

    Also, Is changing college (like right now) possible even though I am already accepted? because I would like to change it to Woodsworth college since Woodsworth residence also has single rooms for every students.

    Other than that, Is UT Commerce a difficult major to deal with? I had head from others, the class average is somewhere from 50% to 65% which seems very low.

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