• housing,  residence,  UTM

    she doesn’t even go here

    Hi,

    I was just wondering if you can still live on residence even if you are suspended for a year? Because I keep getting emails saying my housing application is incomplete and to complete it by a certain date etc. So now I am thinking of living on residence (If i am allowed to) and working for a year, since I can’t seem to find a place to live in the area for the September year…please help! (I am from UTM)

    Thank you!

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    Hey hey

    Uhhhhhhhhh I want to give you one big fat firm no but I’ve come to realize nothing at this bloody university is ever black or white. Instead, I’m going to give a 99.9% sure no.

    Or well. Just no. Yeah. No. No residence for you.

    The goddess of logic tells me since dorms are student residences and you are not technically a student, then nay, you’re just getting emails but they’re not relevant to you.

    And if you can’t find a place right now, give the housing search (no longer available) a try! Or Craigslist. Or random google searches.

    Cheers!

    aska

  • UTM

    crying gets you nothing but snark… and a tissue

    Hi Aska,

    It’s been a while. Hope things are going swell. Anyways I am frustrated with UTM, and I’m in need of your advice (because no one is answering my calls or e-mails).

    So I finished my second year at another University 4 weeks ago. A week later I received a provisional transcript assessment and got almost all my credits assessed. I was previously told (multiple times) that I would be?able to enter my subject POSt after my final assessment.

    So everything seemed to be going well, UNTIL I got floored this week by the Office of the Registrar. They told me that I had to apply for my POSt on ROSI, and because they would need to see my final assessment done. So apparently I have to apply on June 17, and I would not hear back until September 9. Basically I would have to wait until July 26 to apply for 8/10 of my courses, and since the other 2 are restricted at all times, I would have to wait until September 9, and the class sizes of these two courses are small, and I’m scared I might not even get in.

    I spoke to someone else, who told me that I might not even be able to get in until I have a CGPA (since my marks won’t transfer), So right now I’m furious and scared because I had a beautiful timetable planned out, and if I have to take these two classes in the following year it will really complicate my life.

    Sorry for the long e-mail I’m a mess right now. But I have a few questions:

    1) How screwed am I? :/
    2) If I go to the right department and cry, can I get out of this mess?
    3) If I am screwed, can I still request special consideration (UTSG was my second choice, but enrolment services said I could send a letter. Although I’m unaware of the available space for Social Science Students.)

    Thank You in Advance Aska,

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    Yo.

    Firstly, congratulations on your acceptance.

    Now:

    1) You’re not screwed at all. You’re not in a mess. You’re just a student at the University of Toronto.

    Congratulations. This is where people go to cry. You’ll be fine.

    You’re not going to get some of the courses you want some times and that’s just how things are because of the volume of students. This is why students should always have backup plans. Don’t just stick to your one perfect schedule with absolutely no leeway. That’s how you set yourself up for disappointment.

    Now your situation is classic so don’t expect too much sympathy from, well, anyone at the university. Lots of the time students will apply for a program, be rejected in the first round, and then apply again in the second round and like you, have to wait for an answer until September.

    It sucks but it happens all. the. time.

    2) If you get pulled over, do you cry? No.

    Do not go to the department and cry. That would be the most obnoxious thing you could do. And okay, you’re in university. You’re an adult. You want to go somewhere and CRY to get your way? No. Don’t do that. No one likes that.

    You won’t get your way, you’ll get a tissue.

    3) I’m not really sure what you mean by “special consideration,” but I really don’t think you’ll get that anywhere.

    Like I said, everyone deals with not getting their ideal schedule, so no one is going to be moved by tears or some sort of appeal. The most you can really do is beg the professor of whatever course you’re losing your shit over, but past that… yeah. You’re going to be treated equally.

    But seriously, you need to relax and just… well, “get over it” is harsh, but there’s no point in dwelling. What you SHOULD be doing is looking at other options, not looking for ways to make sure you can get your way.

    (Seriously. CRYING?)

    Take some electives, take some courses at other campuses, take some random ones in the same field — just remember to be practical. You’re always going to need contingency plans, you’re always going to need to behave like someone your own age, and you’re always going to have to move forward.

    So no more whining.

    keeping it real,
    aska

  • Transferring,  UTM

    in need of innis

    hey aska!

    so i was just refused admission to the st. george campus but they offered me admission at UTM. i was just wondering if i were to transfer to st. george next year, will i have the same college preferences? like, i would REALLY like to get into innis but that’s already so hard to get in so if i were to transfer, would my application have equal consideration amongst, say, new undergrads.

    cheers!!!

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    Hey hey

    As far as I understand, logically, you shouldn’t have the same preferences any more. If you applied and were rejected, that application process is done, right?

    So when you apply for your internal transfer, just re-rank your colleges and set Innis to numero uno once again.

    Now your application will definitely have equal consideration as say someone coming from high school, so despite Innis’s tiny size, you won’t have too much trouble getting into Innis College as long as you rank them first. Honestly, Innis isn’t hard to get into. The RESIDENCE can be hard to get into because it’s in such high demand, but for the most part, if you rank them as number one on your application you should be fine.

    But I can’t blame you for wanting to get in to Innis. It rocks.

    clearly an innisian,
    aska

  • business,  commerce,  UTM

    business studies coming before commerce

    I just recently have gotten an alternate offer into your First year Business Studies program at UTM (denied UTM commerce). I was just wondering what the difference is as I dont know much about it and I checked electronicinfo.ca, it is not there. As well as i got a acceptance at york administrative studies, and im definately stuck between both programs.

    A little bit clearing up would be a great help, thanks again!

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    Hey hey

    I pretty much looked at your message, laughed, and asked myself, “What the heck is Business Studies?” because I’d never heard of it.

    Now research extraordinaire that I am, I googled that and found UTM’s little page on alternative offers — which I’m sure is totally neglected by incoming students.

    Basically, let’s say Business Studies is like a pre-program of sorts to Commerce. You’ll take the same first year courses as the Commerce kids and then you’ll essentially be applying for the program again from within UTM come April. They say the cut off average is 2.5, but be warned that that the ACTUAL minimum is most likely going to be a looooot higher since there are going to be a bunch of other people doing the same thing.

    So all in all, there’s no reaaaaal difference. You’re taking the same courses and working toward the same goal, you’re just… in Business Studies > Commerce, so you’ll have to apply to the program again at the end of first year based on your grades in those courses.

    Cheers!

    aska

  • ccit,  UTM

    if i’m not in ccit, can i still be a ccit student

    Hey, I am starting my second year at UTM in September. I came into UTM into the CCIT program. To enroll in the Subject Post for the CCIT Major, I need a GPA of at least 2.0. I am planning on applying to two minors as well; Earth Science and Environmental Science, which don’t require a GPA of 2.0. I will apply to the Posts in June. If my GPA is below 2.0, should I just apply to the two science minors? Will I still be considered a CCIT student? Will I have to apply for the CCIT Major next year? Please help, thanks.

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    Yo.

    If your GPA is below 2.0, then you won’t be able to get into the CCIT program, but do heed the required grades for those other programs you’re interested in. Do note, however, that you can’t just be in two minors. UTM requires students to be enrolled in either one specialist, two majors, or one major and two minors.

    But no, you won’t be considered a CCIT student. Naturally, you’re only considered one if you’re in the program.

    Although you can certainly apply for the program in the following year once you’ve bumped up your CGPA.

    Cheers!

    aska

  • grad school,  suspension,  UTM

    a series of suspensions – part ii

    Hey there, I’m currently a second year student at utm who just got a notice I was put on academic suspension for a year! Yikes! I got decent grades in first year, however, second year I hit a rough patch and was diagnosed with depression and anxiety 🙁 this literally happened to me in the middle of midterm season. As a result, my marks dropped (obviously) which resulted in my academic suspension. I was wondering if maybe I should appeal the suspension? I always wanted to go to post grad school as well and I don’t want this stopping me, however I’m scared that this will completely hurt my chances. I do plan on returning and working my ass off, as of now I’m doing a lot better however, I’m still on the road to recovery. Advice?

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    Yo.

    Posts to refer to that can be found in the aska archives with similar/exactly the same situations:

    1) Student is suspended — But there’s a twist! She has ~*~extenuating circumstances~*~!!!

    2) But what am I supposed to do on my year off?

    3) Second year UTM student on suspension and wants to go to grad school — what now?

    Now if you’ve read those, you’ll see that my general stance on appealing suspensions is that ~*~extenuating circumstances~*~ you may have, but the university might not really… well, care. If you have medical documentation, fine, that can’t be fought, but people on suspension start off on probation and probation always comes with a lot of talking and counseling and whatnot.

    But my advice:

    If you really do have problems with depression/anxiety though, why bother fighting the suspension? It’s a GOOD thing!

    This is time to take care of yourself and really consider whether or not you actually WANT to go to university. If you’ve been depressed, well take this spare time to figure out what’s depressing you, look at your life choices, and fix them.

    And, to be clear, if you do have anxiety problems that are sparked by school, I don’t think grad school is the best place. I mean that stuff is intense soooo. Sure, you can certainly work your butt off when you come back, but do you really think adding to the typical four years is going to make you feel any better? School just gets harder as it goes by. :/

    Grad school is basically every student’s back up dream.

    Eeeeveeeeryone says they want it at one point, maybe even apply to it, but they’re tough to get into and to see through. The marks that got you on probation and then suspension will, naturally, hurt your GPA which will in turn hurt your application, but just be sure that it’s what you reaaaaally want before working towards it. I mean there are so many other options out there that are a) less expensive, b) more accessible, and c) more likely to contribute to you getting a job. For example, have you ever considered a post-graduate certificate? So much more worth it and probably less anxiety-inducing! 🙂

    Anyhow, enjoy the year off! Pull an Eat, Pray, Love and go eat a crap load of pizza or something. Or maybe some Julie and Julia-ing can be done. Or maybe just get a job! Just focus on yourself for now and getting out of depression.

    Cheers!

    aska

  • UTM,  UTSC

    st. george isn’t even an option

    Hi!

    So basically, I’ve recieved an alternate offer from UTM for psychology instead of Life Sciences, which is what I originally applied for, but I also got into UTSC Life Sciences, but the thing is that I really want to go to UTM, so would it be possible to switch campuses after I accept my offer from UTSC? Or maybe I can go to UTM and switch into Life Sciences second year? Nonetheless, UTM is where I want to go, so in your opinion what should I do?

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    Hey hey~

    If UTM is where you want to go, then just ignore UTSC and that’s that. 😀

    But if you DO end up choosing UTSC and then decide you want to be at UTM instead, you’re going to have to do an internal transfer, which is a bit of a process so it might be best to choose what you reaaaaally want now.

    Basically I say go to UTM, take the courses you can fit into your schedule during first year (as in you can still take, say, the basic first year bio — life sci staple that it is — assuming you have the prerequisites), and then see where the Subject POSts take you at the end of that year.

    Cheers!

    aska

  • suspension,  UTM

    a series of suspensions – part i

    So I’m a second year student @ UTM and was recently put on academic suspension because I can honestly say I screwed up. But I am unclear of some things. I’ve noticed that for some people their suspensions are only for one session? Why is that? I got an email saying my suspension for one year has now been effective May 2013. Is there any way I can get out of suspension? Or ANY WAY I can make up for my screw up’s?? I am dying here…PLEASE HELP.

    Also, once I come back from suspension, what will happen? Will I be able to continue to 3rd year? And I was planning on going to Grad school, will this suspension impact on my chances of getting in greatly?!

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    Yo.

    I’m not sure what you’re reading, but at UTM, if you’re suspended, that goes for either one or three years. So what you might be seeing is someone saying they’ve been suspended for an entire academic session or something like that, in which they refer to an entire academic year?

    Either way, UTM seems pretty clear when they say it’s a one year thing — assuming you haven’t fallen so far as to be kicked out for three years.

    Now can you get out of this? Well… probably not.

    If you’ve looked into the aska archives on suspension, you’ll notice one or two student who think that they definitely don’t deserve to be on probation and that they’ll try harder and yada yada yada put me back in school for I am a special snowflake. I’m not trying to be mean/cynical/harsh, but if you get put on suspension… well first you were put on probation. You had a year of promising yourself and your registrar that you’d work harder, right? Very rarely does the university sympathize with people who’ve been suspended.

    But good for you! 🙂 The steps to coping with suspension always start off with accepting that you screwed up. Then we move forward!

    So yes, you can make up for your screw ups — just after a year.

    You can spend your time off making money, traveling, starting a blog, or whatever suits your fancy, but once you get back, you just start the year off again back on probation and dealing with the same circumstances as your previous probation. However, this time the threat is that if you plummet a second time, suspension lasts THREE years.

    And depending on your credit count, yes, you can carry on to third year. I mean you can be in your third year of study technically, but the university considers you third year when you have 9.0 to 13.5 FCE.

    As for grad school… well, grad school apps tend to come with a serious of extra requirements like letters of reference, transcripts, personal statements, and so on, meaning it’s possible to explain away the little mark of suspension on your record.

    However, keep in mind that letters of reference typically come from profs whose classes you totally rocked, and transcripts let potential schools see eeeveeerything. So if you really are serious about grad school, make sure that when you get back to school, you actually work on things this time. Hopefully that helps your odds for entry.

    Until then, enjoy your year off.

    Cheers!

    aska

  • Transferring,  UTM

    if you can hold a fork…

    Hi there! I just finished my first year at UTM. I failed a full year course and as a result I finished with only 3.0 credits. Im very confused because I know that I cannot apply for a subject Post now since I do not have 4.0 credits and I wonder how that will affect me. Can I apply in December after first semester second year? Also summer school is not an option for me as I have to work to save for second year so I can’t get a credit in summer school and catch up. Another thing I would really like to transfer to YorkU but again I dont have the 4.0 credits. Does this mean I will have to wait until after second year? I really want to get a bachelor of education but since Ive messed up so much in first year I can’t do that at UTM which is why I would like to transfer. If I have to wait until after second year to transfer, what subject posts should I apply for until then so that I can still be working towards the degree in education even though that is not my program? Im sorry if some of these are silly questions but I feel like Ive gone into university blind and I’m making my own path as I go along.

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    Yo.

    Okay so Subject POSts work so that you enroll after a full academic session. Meaning there won’t be any applying until next summer soooo sorry about that. At least you don’t have to worry about what program to pick, right?

    Annnnnd well I don’t really know anything about York (UofT ftw!), but I mean they DO word the requirement as “completion of at least 4 full-credits” — “completion” being the key word here. Technically, you did complete four courses. Maybe not fantastically, but you certainly completed four! But you’re going to have to clear things up with them on whether or not you have to do a second year at UTM to satisfy their requirements.

    Cheers!

    aska

  • UTM

    save me some spots for the second round

    Hi,

    I’m a first year student in the management program! After my grades for the required courses plunged to the bottom of the ocean, I’ve come to the conclusion to switch into the Digital enterprise management [DEM] program. My intentions are to take the requirements in the summer, in this case CCT110 [july-august] is the only requirement that I need to enter the program! How do I go about proceeding with this process in terms of notifying ROSI? Do I simply delete my previous subject post and add the DEM specialist program? Also, after completing CCT110 in the summer, I’m sure there will be a lag in the timing that i’ll be notified in whether i’ve been accepted into the program or not – within this situation [assuming that registration for 2nd year courses will start during this interval], do I still proceed in? enrolling in the required courses for 2nd year DEM?

    THANK YOU !

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    Yo.

    When it comes to playing with Subject POSts, everything is done on ROSI. So since you’re in first-year, I don’t think you have a Subject POSt, but just add the DEM one that you want once you get the requirement(s).

    Since CCT110 is in the second half of the summer session, you’re going to have to enroll in the program during the second round, lasting June 17 to August 30. Invites into the program will come September 9, and you’ll have until September 22 to accept.

    But because you’ll be in the program AFTER course enrollment for the 2013-2014 session, you might have trouble with restrictions since a lot of 200-level courses give priority to people already in x program, so keep some kind of contingency plan!

    xoxo,

    aska

  • UTM

    getting around restrictions?

    Hi,

    I’m a first year business student at UTM. I was hoping to get into the Finance Specialist Program for second year, but I didn’t end up getting over 63 in MGT120. 🙁 I can’t do summer school here at UTM this summer since I have already booked my flights back home which was over $1000. I’m planning on doing Economics Major for one year and then trying to get into the Finance subject post next year. However, MGT120 is a Restricted Course, do you know if there’s any way I can get around this problem and try to take it during the school session? If I do it during the school year, then I’ll be able to catch up on other courses during the summer.

    Thanks!

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    Hey!

    Unfortunately, there isn’t really anything that can be done to get around a restricted course, and if there is anything that CAN be done, it would be up to the discretion of the department, so work on that perfectly pitiful pout and a nice, convincing statement to pass on to them for now.

    xoxo,

    aska

  • UTM

    2.0 too tough to do?

    Hey, I’m a first year student at UTM, I haven’t been doing too good this year, my GPA will be hopefully be either 2.0 or it could be below it. The two majors I want to apply to require a GPA of at least 2.0. I am taking a summer course to hopefully bring up my mark. But.. what happens if I don’t have the required GPA even after summer school? What should I do?

    Please help me, thanks so much.

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    Hey there!

    If you don’t get the given GPA even after summer school, unfortunately, you’re just going to have to wait until you do. You can try appealing to the program head and seeing if they can do a little something-something to make some magic happen for you, but your best bet is to power through that summer course to ground you at, at least, a 2.0.

    However, if that doesn’t work, then you’ll have to find yourself a random Type 1 program to get by with while you enroll in courses that’ll boost your CGPA so that you can enroll after second year.

    Just be wary of the program requirements for after that! Sometimes they can get harsher. For example, after first year, to get into the English specialist program in first year requires a 2.0, whereas in second year you’ll need a 2.3.

    Cheers!

    aska

  • admissions,  UTM

    aska to the rescue!

    Hey,

    I’m thinking of transferring to utm from Brock. Im going to end up with a 70-73 average. i was thinking about transferring to either commerce or econ. do they have different admission requirements and if not could i get into commerce with that average? Also if i get accepted to econ can i ask for a re-consideration into commerce?

    thanks,
    dark knight

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    Batman,

    Both programs at UTM call for at least a B (around a 74-76) according to Admissions, but that grade is competitive, soooooo try your hardest to bump your GPA a bit. “Competitive” means that there’s quite likely going to be a fair amount of applicants, so that set average could very well go up.

    xoxo,
    aska