• exams,  failing,  grades,  late withdrawal

    Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.

    i really need help figuring out about this new policy about dropping courses after you’ve sat for their exam… apparently you can drop 2 credits worth of courses and the grade you recieved in them will not appear on your transcript nor will the effect your CGPA the catch is that the course will still show up on your transcript showing that you did take that course and that you have dropped it.
    now alot of people have told me there is no such policy but i clearly rememebr one of my professors telling us about it before a lecture.
    ANY ONE WHO KNOW’S FOR SURE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!

     

    I hate to be considered part of “a lot of people” (sounds too commonplace for Aska). However, dear asker, I am about to tell you the same thing everyone else has: NO, that policy does not exist.

    Now, I wasn’t satisfied with simply telling you no. So, I’ve been investigating with ‘the authorities’ on what actual policies the Prof/you may be misinterpreting. I feel like a much less cool Sherlock Holmes.

     

    1) What you are describing sounds a lot like the NEW policy for “Late Withdrawal.”

    You may classify up to 3.0 credits as Late Withdrawal. This means that the course will appear on your transcript with LWD in lieu of a grade. As such, it will not affect your CGPA. In order to classify a course as LWD, you must get this approved by your College Registrar’s Office by the last day of classes. Yes, I said APPROVED. This means that you can’t just bail on a course because you don’t want that nasty A- on your transcript (nerd), or because the exam is on the same evening as the American Idol finale. You will have to demonstrate that you may fail the course, or that it will significantly degrade your CGPA. It is intended for scenarios in which students are seriously overwhelmed by their coursework.

     

    2) Secondly, your inquiry has hints of a “Petition for Late Withdrawal” without academic penalty.

    This is a formal petition process reviewed by the Faculty of Arts & Science. You may be granted withdrawal from a course after the final drop date, and technically for 6 months after the course has finished. If this is approved, WDR will appear on your transcript in lieu of the grade. These do not count against the 3.0 LWD credits that you are entitled. Obviously, the grounds for getting a petition approved are MUCH stricter than Option 1. We’re talking about serious unforeseen issues (e.g. medical). Petitioning for a WDR after you have sat through the exam is even tougher – because you made the decision not to take advantage of the LWD previously. I suppose you would need to demonstrate that your judgment in deciding to stay in the course and sit through the exam was, in the first place, compromised or something like that.

     

    Make sense???

     

    Although this query-response combo is a bit of a dud, there is an important lesson to be learned here. Our Western pedagogical structure inflates students’ perceptions of their Professors to the highest tier of wisdom and significance. Profs deliver their knowledge, through one-way means, down to students. This allows an imbalanced power dynamic to permeate the University. It is a social norm that denies opportunities for dialogical and experiential learning. It also precludes the idea of Professors as students themselves, and their ability to learn from students.

     

    So, what’s the point of my rant? Believe it or not, I’m not just typing to read myself write. Rather, I’m trying to illustrate that Profs don’t know everything, they are often out of touch with academic policies and make things up, and just because they said it – doesn’t mean that it’s right.

     

    P.s. Vive la revolution!!

    P.p.s. Aska is still known to gaze, enamored and starry-eyed, at a Prof from time to time.

  • bad times,  courses,  grades,  registration

    acting your get together

    I’ve had a rough two years in terms of personal life and only passed 2.5 credits in my first year. Now, in my second year, problems at home have continued to build up and stress me out. I tried taking a lighter course load this year but it was still too much. I dropped my last course of the school year in time for the S-course drop date. Now that I have no credits for this year, will I be able to take courses in the summer and fall?

  • GPA,  grad school,  grades,  med school,  St. George

    or in other words, i don’t know


    Hi there.

    I recently got admitted to UTSG for Life Science. As of now, it pretty much looks like I’m going to end up studying there. I was just wondering what your opinions are regarding the whole ~UTSG is a GPA raper thing~ and all that jazz. I’m sure that a student’s response (hopefully one who is currently in the LifeSci program) will enlighten me a little.

    The reason why I’m asking is that I want to keep my options open for medical school. I’m not entirely sure whether or not I want to go into medicine but hopefully my undergraduate studies will clarify my uncertainty. I know that medical schools across Canada require a high GPA and I’m sure that I can get decent grades if I study hard enough but is U of T really as hard as it is cut out to be? Would my chances to get into medical school be greater if I did my undergrad in another university, say York, Queen’s or McMaster?

    Thanks.

  • admissions,  english,  grades

    like, how particular is particular?


    So, I stumbled across this website while Googling (Google is your best friend…sometimes) and found the answers to my questions. Well, most of them anyway. There is just one thing I want to clarify. I applied to the Humanities Program at UofT. The Viewbook says that the university pays particular attention to my English marks. Now, I ended up with an 82 in the course (bear with me, I know you don’t like to hear about marks), and with my teacher that is about the best mark ever (according to my guidence councilor). With a different teacher, I could have ended up with a 90. So, what are my chances? Is 82 considered scratch-my-eyes-out horrible or passable? I know that it isn’t spectacular, so I’m not even going to go there. I have exhausted all possible resources available to me. So, please help me out. Before I hemorrhage out of sheer anxiety.

    Thanks much.

    Cheers.

  • grades,  law school,  St. George

    citric acid


    I know you (usually) give witty and/or useless and acerbic responses. But bear w/ me on this one! I’d like to go to law school (not Dalhousie’s) and my grades are steady 70s. While I’ve done everything in my power to improve them (i.e. writing centres, editing, turning essays in on time etc.) they have simply not budged any higher. All the while I’m being told idiots from UTSC/UTM are going to get the same degree as I do at St. George for less effort and that UofT bell curves like it’s a fetish. So my question is this: What on earth could I possibly do (other than dropping out) to do better and stay sane? MERCI BEAUCOUP!

  • GPA,  grades

    it’s a fox head/lion tail thing

    well…. my marks are out & in one of my courses I got a 79/100 which as a grade is a B+, whats pisses me off (mmm a litlle) is that for one more mark I would get an A- instead of a B+ which inturn will boost my GPA by a 0.08/4 (something for me to brag about). can that be done? registrar…. prof???
    ????
    thank uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

  • admissions,  grades

    this site very good. use!


    Well I want to get in to Biomedical Science (Life Science) in UofT and im in my first semester of grade 12, midterms are being give next week and im expecting a mid to high 70s.

    I have Bio 12 and my mark is in the 70s but i can pull it up to high 80s by final.. my worry is Advanced functions I have a low 50 is it possible if I pass with high 60’s or low 70’s and still have a chance to get in to UofT?

    Ps. I still have 1 more 4u course where i have a high 80 and also next semester calculus, chemistry and engligh. Does Uni only look at the average of our 6 4U courses?

  • admissions,  failing,  grades

    thank heavens i’m not you


    Hi, i kind of stumbled upon this website by accident while googling what the hell am i going to do with my advanced functions mark. So i plan to go to U of T for life sciences or business, possibly even engineering :S So heres the story, i’ve been an awesome student my entire life and grade 12 comes along and i have no idea what the heck happened. Im still not sure about the courses i need but im sure that my advanced functions mark is not good enough, right now its at 50 i know ill need at least an 75+ if i want to get in. Can you give me any advice on what to do? I got a 95 in Data Management and my science marks last year were all 80s or 90s. Im pretty sure i cant drop Functions or take it in night school because what im looking into, they wont look at that. I need to know what courses U of T will look at for these programs, and what i will need to get in my courses. Im taking chemistry, biology, physics, advanced functions, calculus, english and world history. and i already took Data Management in Grade 11. Please HELP!!!

  • admissions,  dentistry,  grades

    to dream the impossible dream

    Unlike all the over achievers that I have been seeing asking questions on this website worried as to whether or not the university of Toronto would accept their stellar grades. I am deeply sorry to say that I am but an average student who receives marks that range between the low to high 70s (although I do attain the rare low to mid 80 every once in a while and even rarer 90 that I have received once or twice.)

    So here goes my dilemma:
    It has always (really always) been my dream to be a dentist. The problem is although I have the brains to get stellar marks and get early acceptance into any university that I want–my marks have shown to say otherwise due to family issues).

    Question: Should I give it up (meaning is it too late)? OR should I keep striving towards my dream?

    **and if you think I should keep striving for my dream do you think along with my application for admittance should I write a letter explaining my marks and my hardships. Will admissions officers understand?