• deferral,  fees,  OSAP

    second strike

    So this is my second strike with osap and they’ve decided not to give my money for this year’s tuition. Is it possible to get a deferral so I have time to gather the funds? I don’t have any scholarships. It’s crazy that I don’t seem to have the option to defer unless I’m with osap when it seems like students like me need that grace period the most..

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    hey there,

    unfortunately, as far as i know, you’re only able to defer your fees for two reasons: if you have incoming scholarships, and if you’re waiting on OSAP. i’m not aware of any exceptions to this.

    that is a tough situation– it kind of makes sense that the university’s policies would be this way, because they need a guarantee that they can get your tuition money. with OSAP and scholarships, they kind of have that. with miscellaneous please-give-me-time situations, not so much.

    i’m sorry i can’t be more helpful– i do want to send you to your registrar, just in case i’m wrong and there is something you can do. it’s possible that they may be able to talk to you about grants or something– emergency funds for students in your situation.

    best of luck with it all, man.

    be Boundless,

    aska

  • fees

    *head bangs*

    hi, i am considering enrolling in 3 credits for the fall semester and then dropping one half course, but i can’t find the deadline for dropping a course without having to pay anything so i’m scared to enrol now:( should dropping in september be enough to not pay any withdrawal fee? please help!

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    hey there,

    don’t blame you at all for not being able to find this– i had a lil trouble myself. it’s not a short answer, either, as this deadline can vary by your faculty, division, and even year. you can check out a master list of the refund schedules here— just click the link that applies to you.

    sorry i can’t be more specific, but unless i know exactly where you fall in the great bureaucracy that is u of t, this question’s a bit of a hard one to answer. too many possibilities. hope i managed to at least direct you to something that’ll be helpful, though!
    be Boundless,

    aska

  • fees

    incidental feeeeees

    what are incidental fees? do i need to be doing something with them? thanks aska!!!!

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    hello there,

    incidental fees are pretty much the fees you pay to be a student at u of t, but separate from what you pay to study at u of t. if that makes any sense. when you pay for them, you get access to all sorts of services and programs that add to your university experience, whether that includes getting access to athletic centres, clubs, healthcare, or campus media.

    if you’re asking if you ‘need to be doing something with them’ because you’ve seen something pop up on your ACORN, then yes, i guess you kinda do have to do something. this year, you’re able to opt out of any non-mandatory incidental fees, which should be shown to you in some kinda checklist when you log into ACORN.

    this is because of the government of ontario’s student choice initiative, which you can read more about here. in short, the government has deemed an array of fees non-essential, jeopardizing the operations of these programs in the coming year. thing is, these programs– your student societies, campus newspapers, and clubs– contribute so much to the vibrancy of life at u of t, and are such valuable opportunities for students to learn soft skills outside of the classroom. these are skills that can make you more employable when you graduate, which i’d say is easily worth the money you’d be spending now.

    so if you have the financial means to do so, i would strongly encourage you to stay opted in.

    be Boundless,

    aska

  • tutorials

    angsty.

    lmao hello when do tutorials start? do we have to go to them starting thursday or only after we’ve been to the first respective lecture? thank u!

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    hi, I was wondering if first years need to attend tutorials that precede their lectures for the first week of school? Is it best to email the prof?

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    lmao hello to the both of you,

    sorry for the wait with this answer but no, you don’t have to go to them starting thursday. the general rule for tutorials is that if they do precede your lecture, you should not show up. no one else will show up. the TA will not show up. you’ll be greeted with an empty, dark lecture room, populated only by one or two equally lost and confused souls. if at all. but hey, maybe that’s your cup of tea.

    angsty.

    so i guess you could go if you want. but yeah, usually tutorials won’t run before the first lecture– you’ll get more info about them during that class.

    hope this helped, and best of luck with the start of classes! hope your profs are quality, your textbooks are available used, and you don’t need to jaywalk to get to class on time. that would be nice.

    be Boundless,

    aska

  • reading week

    no breaks! none

    do ppl generally go home over reading weeks? Or are there just like no breaks other than December lol

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    hey there,

    dunno who gave you the idea that this school gives breaks. that’s pretty funny. a good joke if i ever heard one. reading weeks are like unicorns. or utsg snow days. or the mcdonald’s in northrop frye.

    yeah, come on man, not cool.

    in all seriousness, i feel like this one kinda depends. like yeah, there are breaks other than december– we’re lucky enough to have both a fall and winter reading week, and if you’d like to head home during those you can. this year, those reading breaks are gonna fall on the weeks of nov 4-8 and feb 17-21.

    as far as what i’ve seen, international students (especially ones from overseas) don’t tend to go home for reading week. maybe plane tickets are too expensive, or they want to get the value out of their rent, or a long-haul flight would eat up too much of their time and not ultimately be worth it.

    in terms of people who do tend to go home, it seems to mostly be eastern seaboard kiddos and domestic students, flying out to vancouver or winnipeg or edmonton for a week. i feel like people from ontario generally tend to stay in toronto, since they don’t feel as far from home. but that’s just been my experience.

    or hey, i guess, you could do the unthinkable and… read during your reading week. no judgement here. but i can’t promise i’ll be joining you.

    be Boundless,

    aska

  • first year

    it hasn’t even started but please make it stop

    when is the first day of school? I’m an undergrad in artsci at st george

     

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    hey friend, 

    welcome in advance to u of t! according to the updated calendar for this year, the first day of classes for you should be sept 5. that’s a thursday. just about a week away. yikes. 

    it probably says something about how unprepared i am that i actually had to google this. i used to be a keener, i swear. first year changed me.

    be Boundless,

    aska

  • seminars

    not even a CHANCE

    hello! I am currently enrolled in one FYF seminar and waitlisted for two other FYF seminars (ranked number 4 for one and 18 for the other). I came across this post on uoft’s subreddit that mentioned there is a limit to a maximum of two seminars/1.0 credit. Now, what exactly does this mean? If I get into the classes I am waitlisted for, I would not get the credits for them? Should I drop one of the seminars I am waitlisted in… I probably don’t even have a chance of getting in, right? Thank you!

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    hey there,

    would you look at that– reddit being reliable for once. whaddaya know. miracles do happen. this is a real warning, yall– some stuff on the u of t subreddit is the blind leading the blind. it can be useful for giving you an idea of things, but for any serious decisions please consult your registrar!

    the above gif is meant in a friendly way, just to be clear heheh.

    this limit to a maximum of two seminars basically means you can’t register for more than two, not that you can take them but just forfeit the credits. if that makes sense. so you’ll max out if you get off one of those waitlists, and likely won’t be able to get into the other regardless of your place on that list.

    as for your question about the likelihood of getting in, the general rule of waitlists is that if you’re in the top 10%, chances are good the list will move for you. that means, given what i know about seminars, that you’re not top 10% for either of these classes.

    however, first year seminars are pretty worth, from my experience. personally, i’d advise you to drop the course for which you’re waitlisted 18th, and stay on the 4th place one. you can try to audit the course before you get in– show up for class and get the syllabus and readings, so you don’t fall behind. this is probably only worth doing if you’re actually interested in the course material, though.

    i have heard that sometimes, in smaller classes, the prof might be able to do something about getting you in as well. i have no clue how accurate this is, but hey.

    your call! hope this was helpful.

    be Boundless,

    aska

  • first year,  no one asked

    having fun isn’t hard when you’ve got a library card

    books!

    to build upon a previous aska’s post, the process of getting your hands on them might be a lot more complicated than you’d think. this is what i’ve learned so far in my time at u of t– hopefully it keeps you from making the same mistakes i did. that’s the idea, anyways, isn’t it? 

    first question: what books do i need?

    hit up this bookstore page and sign in with your utorid. once you’re enrolled in courses, you should get a list of the books you’ll need for each class you’re taking. sometimes it’ll take profs a while to upload those to the system, so there might be blank spaces– other times, those blank spaces mean there are no required books. what will you be reading in that case? i had one prof upload a bunch of pdfs and that was it. i would take that course again just to save money.

    there are other cases in which you’ll need books, but they won’t be listed. that means they won’t be bookstore-offered texts, and you’ll need to take a trip to the bob miller book room, alicos printing, or print city to get your reading materials.

    sometimes, you don’t even need to get books

    there are certain courses that’ll list books but they’ll end up being optional, or you’ll never even crack them open. i haven’t found that this is common, but if you’re concerned about this you can always attend a few lectures before buying. what you risk by doing this is that you’ll be behind on readings, but the potential reward is that you get to save some cash.

    with that said, there’s no way to know whether or not you’ll really need the book til your first class, when (hopefully) your prof will tell you. so it’s not a terrible idea to wait til you’ve attended at least one class to get your books.

    • the bookstore is…okay as an option if you need to buy

    PROS: your books will be easy to find and in one place, they’ll be in prime condition if you’re interested in selling them later, and it’s located on campus so you won’t need to go too far. they also sometimes will rent out or sell used books, if you’re trying not to blow your whole salary on school supplies. 

    CONS: $$$$$, and may not have all your books, especially if you’re in the humanities or social sciences 

    there are many alternatives to the bookstore:

    1. facebook groups: the u of t used book exchange (toronto) is the only group i’m aware of, but it’s quite a good one.

    PROS: negotiable prices and bundle deals, meetups usually on campus

    CONS: can be a bit sketchy so use caution. ask about highlighting and writing before you agree to buy, and check your books before you leave. also– don’t take a seller’s word that the books they’re offering will be what your course needs. pay special attention to differences in edition, because sometimes it MATTERS.

    2. discount textbooks toronto

    i’m not sure how viable of an option this is anymore, as their location recently moved from our campus to ryerson’s. however, i’ve heard that you can get some good deals here.

    3. used bookstores on bloor

    these aren’t a particularly good option for lifesci texts and the like, but if you’re in need of novels or similar assigned reading material and have a bit of time on your hands to search, used bookstores are a good bet.

    there are certainly used bookstores in other areas, but bloor west of campus has some good ones. i like BMV books because i’ve found they have pretty good pricing. the varsity has done a piece on used bookstores, on bloor and otherwise, that’ll highlight a few other options for you.

    4. tusbe, aka the toronto university student’s book exchange

    as with all internet-based exchange sites, please! exercise! caution! to avoid getting clobbered in one of those strange alleys on harbord and any other, similarly unfortunate, things that could happen to you.

    5. amazon

    if i’d known how many of my books were available used on amazon, i would never have bought them off the u of t book exchange or the bookstore. amazon is way cheaper if you get lucky, people. the downside is that you do have to wait quite a bit of time for shipping– a few weeks, i think, in my case? but it can be useful for yearlong courses with texts you won’t need til second sem.

    there are also many alternatives to buying books:

    1.the library — and by the library, i mean the online search thingy. it’s not a bad idea to look your textbooks up in the system before you commit to buying them. i got through a whole semester once by renewing and renewing and renewing a class textbook i got at gerstein. on occasion, you can get even luckier– i heard some of HIS103’s books are available as downloadable pdfs through the u of t library. this is a big win, @ first year IR kids. it’s legal and it’s free. 

    heads up that some local libraries can have online ebooks you can borrow as well. check yours!

    2.course reserves– they’re only avail to you for ~2 hour loans and can be unreliable, but are definitely an open option. if your books are in course reserves, your prof will usually say so or mention it on the syllabus. 

    3.renting books — you can do this either through the bookstore, or rent ebooks from amazon. if you can find your books as ebook rentals on amazon, that’s a real win. you can’t get any more win than that. i once found a textbook for $8 rent, when it would’ve cost me around 70 new. check both amazon.ca and amazon.com, because even after exchange rates .com can have better prices for text rentals.

    4.the lovely lovely world wide web– some novels, like heart of darkness, are free on the web through project gutenberg.

    a new and revolutionary option:

    do almost any of the above, but split it with a friend in some way. obviously, how well this will work depends on what kind of book you’re talking about, what kind of reader you are, and what kind of friends you have. it’s something i wish i had thought of earlier, though.

    my first year, i bought a book new from the bookstore and was so determined to keep it tip-top shape to resell that i never even really read from it, just took pictures and viewed them off my laptop. i did fine learning this way, but later realized i didn’t actually need the book if this was all i was going to do. i could probably have taken photos of a friend’s book and just bought them lunch, or presented some kind of other compensation they were okay with.

    it’s not the best call if you like writing or highlighting in your books, or if you simply prefer paper to a screen, but it’s something to consider. i feel like any other way of splitting a book could get complicated with custody, but maybe there are possibilities that haven’t crossed my mind yet. use your imagination, friends.

    hope this was helpful! go get ’em, friends (or hey, don’t)!

    be Boundless,

    aska

     

  • grad school

    rEquiReMeNtS

    hi. i’m thinking of grad school. i passed but did poorly in one of the required courses. what’s the point of retaking a course that you’ve passed if it’s going to be marked as “extra” and not count towards GPA? (sorry if this sent twice i think there was a glitch)

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    hey there,

    grad school! fun stuff. cool cool cool cool cool.

    i’m not a grad school admissions officer. i dunno why i keep throwing this disclaimer in, because obviously yall know that.

    so my best guess, then, is that the point of retaking that course is that it’d help you out with that requirement. if it’s really that important, it may be worth investing the time in. i’m thinking that anything listed as a required course will give the school an idea of how successful you’d be in their program. they might consider it separately from your gpa, maybe?

    sorry. i did try to look into this, but i honestly have no clue about it.

    if you really wanna be sure about this, i’d recommend you contact the grad school you’re looking into (different ones may see the situation differently), or at least speak to your registrar.

    wish i could be of more help, man.

    be Boundless,

    aska

  • fees

    relic of bygone times

    can you pay your fees at the university or does it have to be online, because my dad is old fashioned and wants to go to the actual university to pay. Also if I pay on the second to last day of the deadline am I screwed or would I be ok?

     

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    hey there,

    looked into this for ya and unfortunately, it does seem like u of t doesn’t accept payment on campus. that practice does seem to be a ~relic of bygone times~ here. just like i’ll be in a few years.

    as long as you’re a domestic student, though, you should be able to pay in person– it would just have to be at a bank, not at the university itself. you’d need to visit a branch of your bank, probably with your student account number on you (i don’t think they can ensure the payment goes to your account without it). i know it’s not technically the same as going to the university to pay, but hey, it’s the best we got. your bank will get the payment to the school, trust.

    really hope that works for you! lemme know if you’re not domestic, i’ll try to dig up another solution for ya.

    and yes, if you pay on the second to last day before the deadline you are a-okay. the uni knows we procrastinate, and gives us a lovely lil 10-business-day grace period after the deadline. by then, your payment should be processed!

    be Boundless,

    aska

  • fees

    i’m big dumb too it ok

    so I’m big dumb but do you have to pay your semester 1 fees in full, before semester 2? Or are you allowed to pay the continuous fees little by little as the years go by?
  • admissions,  scholarships/bursaries

    A2 AS O what?

    i am currently doing my A2 and want to join the enginnering science program at U of T. I gave my O levels and got 8A*s,above 90%,in all of them. I am also giving SAT currently and will get my AS results soon. I dont have many extra curricular activities but my father died when i was in grade 6 and since then I help my mother a lot.

    Now can i get into University of Toronto with little ECA and get a scholarship? What are some ways to get scholarships or financial grants.

    Thanks in advance

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    hello friend,

    thanks for waiting for this answer! i am super duper unfamiliar with your school system, but am assuming it’s some kind of UK/british commonwealth thing. guess it doesn’t matter too much, since i’m not an admissions officer anyway and can’t really deal with equivalents and conversions and … numbers. so i can’t really assess what your 90+ grades on your O levels really mean. however, i can point you to this lovely engsci website, which tells you that if you were an ontario student, you’d need low to high nineties. hopefully that gives you some sort of gauge. 

    i’m sorry to hear about your dad and all. i can understand why, with more family responsibilities, it would be more difficult to invest in extracurriculars and such. 

    you do happen to be in luck, though– u of t, generally speaking, does not give a crap what you do outside the classroom. not in a bad way. i see it as a good thing, especially for cases like yours. at least when i applied, all i had to do was plug my grades into some form and bada bing bada boom. more specialized programs like architecture and music definitely consider a bit more, but for the most part you will not need to worry about anything other than the numbers. hopefully that’s reassuring to you. 

    as for your SAT– don’t know that it’s gonna do you much good here. it’ll be useful to you if you’re seeking to apply to the states, but other than that… i know you can tell canadian schools what your score was if you took the test, but i’m not sure to what degree it affects things. it’s not required here and most people don’t take it. 

    in terms of scholarships, there are definitely avenues. if you are (as i assume) an international student, you’ll likely have different opportunities than a domestic one would. the most prominent international scholarship i know of is the good ol’ lester b, but you can probably try the scholarship sorter as well. 

    best of luck with it all!

    be Boundless,

    aska

  • fees

    extra hoo

    is there any downside to deferring tuition costs?

     

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    hey friendo,

    as far as i’m aware, i don’t think there is! deferral seems to just be a real nice thing the uni does if you’ve got a legitimate reason not to pay your fees on time, like you’re waiting on scholarships or OSAP. as long as you remember you’ve deferred your fees and ensure that they get paid, you should be fine. make sure you’re also aware of deadlines, too. you’ll need to pay your full tuition by april 30 at the latest. if you don’t, you’ll have trouble registering for future sessions.

    if you’re worried about a specific situation or circumstance, i’d recommend you get in touch with your registrar. they’ll likely be able to walk that through with you better than i can!

    be Boundless,

    aska