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Nov01

math minor or non-degree???

Hey guys, troubled mind here.
So I graduated in 2012 with BBA Management specializing in Finance, and after working for about a year I am interested in taking a Masters program in Mathematical Finance. As my BBA left me pretty much uneducated in math, I need to take about 2 semesters worth of math courses to be deemed competitive. I also realized that the sum of these courses qualify for the completion of a Minor in Math. So my question is this: Is it possible to take these courses and qualify for a Minor in Math? or do I have to take them as Non Degree.
Thank you for your time

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hey there,

it’s actually not possible to do just a minor at uoft – you have to do one specialist, two majors, or a major and two minors in order to get a degree. Meaning you’d have to do your courses as a non-degree student.

But DON’T PANIC. the good thing is non-degree status doesn’t really change anything for you (except that you get last pick for courses on rosi) (but it’s not like math courses fill up incredibly fast anyways amirite?). You’ll get your courses just fine, and you won’t be at a disadvantage when applying to grad school compared to someone who has a minor in math. All the grad schools care about is the marks you got in the courses they specify.

For once, the answer is easy-peasy! Good luck and I keep smilin’,

aska

Oct25

Breadth requirements *shivers*

Hello!

First of all, love the Game of Thrones reference on your ask page!

Now to my question. I’ve heard from a U of T alumnus that any student must take a math or science course in first year even if he or she is 120% sure his/her major and future career will have nothing to do with either. Is that true?

THANKS!

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hey there,

thanks, man! Just for you, I’m gonna make this post GoT themed. Catering to your personal tastes and stuff, yeah. Aska’s like that.

Now, as to your question, the idea of forcibly making everyone take a math/science course seems like some kind of dystopian fantasy, and is fortunately not true. If you’re coming in to the faculty of arts and science, which you almost certainly are, you need to fulfil breadth requirements, which are basically a certain number (no more than one or two) of courses that you need to complete in each of five categories to get your degree. One of these categories is called “the Physical and Mathematical Universes.” HOWEVER if you take 1.0 (that is, two semester’s worth – so one full-year or two half-year courses) courses in each of the other four categories, then you don’t have to take any in that fifth math one.

Also keep in mind that you don’t have to fulfil the breadth requirements in first year! So there is time to figure all this stuff out.

So don’t worry yourself friend – you can avoid math for now.

aska

Sep27

Pythagoras wouldn’t have panicked. He was kinda scary though.

Hello,

I am a first year-student in Life Sciences about to embark on the journeys of MAT135 in the Fall and MAT136 in the Winter, and I feel very insecure about it. I got a 75 in grade 12 calculus, and the teacher was being generous. I feel like I don’t remember anything from last year? Should I review my notes? If I do, wouldn’t that hold me back? Does MAT135 touch upon some concepts from grade 12?

How much should I be worried about university math – on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being ‘really worried’? I know there are math aid centres – can I just drop into those? Should I also allow myself to be consumed with stress if I get a low mark? And if I do get a low mark (and I’m praying I’m not) will that affect my application to the program I want to get into (Human Biology)?

Thanks for your time.

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You’re stressing a lot. Let me tell you something: there is no call for the kind of panicking you’re doing right now. Life is too short for that kind of silliness. Here’s something that you probably don’t realize: you’re not the only one who knows you’re a frosh. It’s not some kind of big secret. Everyone else can tell. I can tell, your peers can tell, and more importantly, your profs can tell.

This means that the professor knows your background, and he or she is going to structure the lecture appropriately towards it. The course starts off with a quick review of trigonometry, which, if you went to school in Ontario, is something that you started learning about in Grade 11 Math (if you went to school outside Ontario, you’re also more than likely to have learned this before).

Now, I’m not saying the course is going to be a piece of cake, but it won’t be impossible, either, regardless of what your marks were like in high school. If you consistently do the weekly problems and go to lecture, you’ll do well. If you do find yourself needing help, however, it is always available to you – absolutely feel free to drop in on it!

As for Human Biology, as long as you complete 4.0 credits, you’re eligible to enrol – so don’t panic.

Good luck, little soldier, and try to chin up!

aska

Aug23

last minute decisions lead to last spots on the waitlist

I enrolled into MAT133Y and soon after found out that I need MAT135/136 instead. I am currently enrolled in MAT133 but waitlisted for MAT135/136 at the same time. I know that they are exclusions of each other so I’m wondering if ROSI will give me the option of choosing which one to stick with once I’m approved for all my choices. AAAND do you think there is a chance for me to get into MAT135/136. I am 4th for 135 and 47th for 136… and would they give me preference over other ppl since I require MAT 135/136?

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Hey hey

The sometimes helpful thing about ROSI is that it doesn’t recognize exclusions. The conveniently helpful thing about the Math Department is that they don’t really pay much attention to exclusions either. 😉

(Or, at least, that’s what the word on the streets is.)

Anyhow, don’t worry if you’re in MAT133Y and suddenly get into MAT135H/136H. Naturally, of course, just make sure you drop 133Y once you get into the other ones. But yeah, ROSI won’t kick you out of one or the other.

As for your waitlists…

I’d say you’re in a great place for MAT135H. You may very well get in before class starts, but if not, I’m sure that at least four people will drop it after the first lecture.

Now with MAT136H. Yeah. No. Not the best spot on the waitlist.

You’re not going to get any preference though just because it’s a prerequisite for something you need in the future. MAT136H is a prerequisite for a lot of people. Maybe consider some other lecture sections? Maybe an equivalent at another campus?

Anyhow, I can’t think of place to incorporate a stupid picture into this post, so take this and prosper.

Cheers!

aska

Jul19

extra work for economics

Hey!

This is the first time I’m writing to you and I guess I have a little problem. I’ve just finished my first year at UofT St. George and although I struggled a bit, I know where I went wrong and I’ve kinda figured out what i have to fix to do better academically. However, I did not get into the Subejct Post that I wanted: Economics. I want to Major in Economics but i didn’t get the required math grade as I took MAT136H1 and barely passed. I’m thinking of repeating the course again this fall, but my question to you is do you think its possible for me to take MAT133Y1 instead? I know that MAT133 is an excluded course if a student has received credit for MAT136, but I think i’d have a better chance of making the grade if I took MAT133 instead. I know a lot of people would say that maybe Econ just isn’t for me because I’m not good at math, but i think last year was more down to me being lazy and not having the foundation that I would have liked. So yeah, basically what I’m asking is: is it possible for me to do MAT133 instead of repeating MAT136 having passed MAT136?

Regards,
Regretfully-motivated.

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Regretfully motivated,

It is possible for you to do MAT133Y, but the credit WILL be counted as extra, meaning it won’t contribute to your cGPA, and on your transcript it’ll just say “EXT” (for extra) next to it.

However, the grade you get will still be considered for a program requirement.

And, lucky for you, you won’t have to go through the trouble of bugging your college to enrol in the course for you since technically you’ve never taken MAT133Y before.

Just note that with MAT133Y, you need to get at least 63%.

Cheers!

aska

Jul08

not another math problem!

Hey Aska 🙂

I’m a student who was enrolled in the life sciences programme at UTM last year, and I’m hoping to get into the Bio Major programme as time goes on. Due to all sorts of not-too-fun stuff, I ended up only taking my three required courses in the Fall (MAT134, CHM110, and BIO153), but eventually I managed to get my sh*t together and went for the full course load in the winter term. I managed to do okay on everything, but I failed my maths course by a few percent and got my butt on probation.

I’m in summer school at the moment taking a 2-year SSc course that I’m acing (it’s a Y course, and I’m rocking above 80 right now), and I’m retaking maths as well. I enrolled in my courses before I knew of my academic standing (I got the email two or three weeks into the start of courses), and I’m pretty close to where I need to be anyway – I’m at a 1.48, I need 1.5 to be safe.

So, I passed my first math quiz with a 60, but I failed the first test by 8 percent. Now, I thought I fixed my problem, but obviously I haven’t. So here are my questions:

1) As a kid intending to go on into the bio major programme, can I use my No Credit/Credit option on this stupid maths course?

2) Would it make sense to drop the course and try taking an online thing at Athabasca and having the credit transferred?

3) Should I push through and see how I do until the LWD date?

I don’t know what to do :/

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Hey hey

For starters, I want to stress your working your butt off this summer to avoid the possibility of suspension.

But your questions:

1) No, you cannot use the CR/NCR option if this math course is a program requirement. CR/NCR courses can only fulfil degree requirements, not program ones.

2) Honestly… no, I don’t think you should drop it and take it online. Using transfer credits for program requirements is always such a hassle. It’s doable, but clarify with the department if they’d be willing to take a transfer credit for entry.

3) Push through until the last day to drop. Don’t bank on a LWD because those are never guaranteed.

Cheers!

aska

Jul08

but why do we math

Hi aska,

I want to get into med school and to do that i need to keep my GPA up. I think I can manage physics, but the co req of PHY131 and PHY132 are MAT 135 and MAT 136 which is a math overload. My brain cannot handle it. Still I’d like to get some preparation in physics for the MCAT. I can’t drop the courses if I do bad in them since it will leave a large hole in the amount of credits that I want. I really don’t know what to do. Please help

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Hey hey

So let’s deal with the first problem: how can you deal with all the math?

Seek help, obviously!

Drop into a Math Aid Centre on campus, form a study group somewhere, get some tutoring, yada yada yada.

But if that doesn’t work, we move on: how can you deal with the “large hole in the amount of credit [you] want”?

1) Accept the fact that there is a large hole. Fair enough. It’s good prep for real life! You’ll soon find large holes in your wallet, for example.

2a) Take summer school courses! There an extra strain on your wallet buuuuut…

b) Take advantage of your program fees. Basically, that dreaded flat fee you pay every August for full-time students means that you can take anywhere between 3.0 and 6.0 FCEs. 😉

Luckily for you, I doubt you’ve actually set up your timetable yet, so just accommodate the fact you’re going to be in one hell of a math-heavy year. This means try to lighten it here and there by taking things you know won’t be too much of a struggle for you and make sure you manage your time wisely.

Cheers!

aska

Mar06

calculus is driving me crazy

Hi aska,

I just got my MAT136 midterm back – I got 57! It is worth 30 percent of the mark, while 65 percent is the final exam. What should I do? I’m already taking a summer course!

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Hmmmmmm

Well, think of it this way: you’re not failing right?

Sure, a 57 sucks, but here let me tell you what — I literally failed my first midterm of university. It was worth 30% of my grade like yours and I went into it with a mindset of “I’ve got this” and then bam! Failure! A 57 isn’t the prettiest grade of course, but you still have a chance to pull that up with your final exam. I mean 65% really allows you to make or break this course, right?

You can always get some help from one of the Math Aid Centres or try some peer tutoring, but if you still don’t feel confident in yourself, make sure to drop the course by March 10 to avoid any record on your transcript or academic penalty.

I say stay in the course and work your butt off, personally. I’d hate to have to retake something I’ve already invested two months in, you know?

Cheers!

aska

Oct31

you will never escape the wrath of math

Hi there,

I was thinking about switch my first year sociology major to international relations but I don’t think that I have the math prerequisite since I didn’t take math in highschool.

Is there anything I can do, or will they just accept me highschool mathless?

Or am I forever stuck in sociology?

KS

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Hey KS!

To get into the International Relations program, you?re required to take a first year ECO course (which is mildly mathematical), but there aren?t actually any requirements for either of the two options. ECO100Y1 recommends high school math, but then there?s ECO105Y1 which is made especially for ?non-specialists.?

But if you mean ?math? as in an MAT course? well, according to the requirements, there is no MAT course needed for the major program, so I’m a little confused as to why you’re confused.

Cheers!

aska

Oct17

twenty questions: aska edition

Hi!

I’m a student going into grade 12 and have two very different fields which I want to pursue, so I have some questions. Is it possible to take a major in drama and a major in math? And if so, which one would I apply with or do I apply with both, in reference to the form, essay and auditions, etc.? Does this work for the University of Toronto Mississauga Campus? And is it possible to make my math major part of a teaching degree? I also don’t really understand how choosing courses works and if you can have electives, and how many. Also, would I be limited in teaching possibilities or employment possibilities if I took math as a minor?

Thank you,

Ioana

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Hey Ioana,

Your message is a deceptively short paragraph, but it actually consists of many specific questions. Well played, Ioana. Well played indeed.

Anyhow, basically as long as the two programs you’d like to study are within the same faculty, you’re good. So since Drama and Mathematics are both part of the Faculty and Arts and Science, you can definitely major in them both. However, you don’t really determine those specific Programs of Study until the end of your first year. But since you’re still in high school, when you apply through OUAC, I suppose you might as well specify your program choice as Mathematics (assuming you can only choose one).

When you apply, you essentially put yourself into some sort of stream like Humanities or Social Sciences or Life Sciences and would then be given precedence for spots in that stream’s courses. Now if you chose Drama, you would probably be placed in the Humanities stream. But DRM200Y1 Introduction to Performance has a number of entry requirements, which makes being given that priority rather irrelevant, so you may want to specify Math so that you’ll have precedence when trying to pick up those courses. At U of T, any sort of priority is useful since spots are always limited.

Now for a B.Ed. from U of T, you can either go to OISE after you finish your degree, or you can apply to the super competitive Concurrent Teacher Education program in which you take five years instead of four and complete your degree alongside your B.Ed. With the CTEP, you can enter either straight from high school over at UTSC, or after your first year at St. George. Personally, I recommend you take the latter option and wait a little. You seem to want to do a lot of things. One year might do you some good in narrowing down between all of these choices or at least being sure of what you want.

But if you do end up pursuing your B.Ed., you can definitely use your Mathematics major towards your teachable. And if you choose to bring Math down to a minor instead, according to OISE’s prerequisites for teachables, you should be fine. Just make sure to heed the program requirements needed for your degree. As for other jobs, try doing some research. Where can a degree in Math take you? Who knows! Consult the Career Centre if you’d like!

And as for courses, students take an average of five per semester. In your first year you’re pretty much free to take what you’d like so that you can figure out what it is you’re looking for. If you’d like, take a look at the Calendar to get a vibe for how things work at U of T and what you can possibly take.

Enjoy your last year before having to work your butt off!

aska

Oct10

for the love of linear algebra

Hello

I hope you can help me… I know you must get these sort of questions (they’re more like whines) all the time, but I have a situation that has been stressing me out all day. I am a first year student and I was trying to get into the second year linear algebra course mat223h1 for the fall term. I am currently 19 out of 196 spaces, so what do you think are the chances of getting into this? I heard a statistic was that about 10% will likely get into their course, but I can’t be basing my university decisions off of rumoured stats can I? I am really worried that I won’t be able to get into the class… I was looking at a specialist in actuarial science or statistics, both of which highly recommend taking mat223h1 in first year. What do you think are some possible solutions if I were to not get in? And what are the chances of getting in, based on my place on the waiting list. I just want to know the nature of this particular course.. I mean do people tend to drop this course a lot, or do they hold onto this one?

I hope you can help! I just need to ease my stress. Thanks 🙂 I’m a first year. Naturally I’d be worried.

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Hey there first-year!

Sorry for the late reply. I know this might not really be relevant to you right now, but here’s the deal for future reference at least. 🙂

So the fact that you were 19 out of 196 in a second year course in your first year warrants you a high five! I sure hope you got in, but normally in a situation like that you do have a fair chance. There is no real statistic, but with such a large class, hopefully things worked out for you. In any case, if you didn’t get in before the waitlists were dropped, I hope you played the lovely game of refreshing the courses page on ROSI every five minutes or so to check if someone dropped it. Basically, after the waitlists are dropped, there is a one week period where entry is essential a free for all.

However, if you weren’t able to get into the course this term, there’s always one in the winter. According to the timetable, actually, there are five sections too. Likewise, if the summer courses for 2013 are anything like those of 2012, MAT223H1 should be offered.

Cheers!

aska

Oct09

when math is a must

Is there a basic math course offered for students who did not take grade 12 math?? If so, can this be used as a prerequisite for higher math courses?

Thanks
Janet

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Hey there!

So I take it you didn?t realize how much math meant to you until you got to university? Unfortunately, according to the course calendar, there are no first-year math courses that you can take without having taken MCV4U and MHF4U.

If you really are set on taking a first-year math course, you?ll have to complete those two grade 12 math courses elsewhere. Another option is to consult the math department?s PUMP program.

Sorry about that!

aska

Sep25

MAT, please baby, I need more of you

HI,
My name is Sujia and I am going to be a second year student at U of T studying in Rotman Commerce. I have already taken MAT133 in my first year and i am considering to take MAT137 in my second year as my electives.
When I looked through the calendar, I noticed MAT137 is exclusion of MAT133 but MAT133 is not exclusion of MAT137.
So can i take mat137 in my second year as one of my electives?
Thanks!Sujia
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Hi Sujia (I feel like we have a more personal connection because you gave me your real name … or did you?)
You caaaaan take it, but why?
Electives are generally used so that you can experience a different field of knowledge or fulfill?a degree or breadth requirement … or to take a bird course and get your CGPA?up.

Just to see if any of these strike a chord with you, here are some courses that sounds awesome or have great profs:

1) Anything with Prof. Marcel?Danesi (from his …uhhh … adventures?on campus?with his wife to?his “research”?at raves he’s got some life lessons to be taught)

2) ENG 234 (Children’s Literature)?or ENG235 (The Graphic Novel)?- probably some of the easiest reading you can?hope for (in complexity not volume)

3) MUS 230 (Music of the 1960s), MUS321 (The Beatles) – you get to listen to?music in class, need I say more?
4) UNI104 (Sex in the City) … need I say more
5) NEW431 (Cultivating Consciousness: Yoga, Meditation & Mindfulness in Practice) …because what student doesn’t need to relieve some stress.
forever avoiding MAT courses,
aska
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